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22 March 2011, 11:15 AM
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The laugh is he actually thinks he has some of us fooled with all these 'clever words' when a good proportion of SN know exactly what he is. He holds court in this thread like he is some authority on the Middle East while in real life he is probably a glorified shop assistant (not that there is anything wrog with that UNTIL you big yourself up into something else). It's quite sad really and rather pathetic! I only hope he knows what he is doing and doesn't really believe his own hype, but sadly I fear not.
22 March 2011, 12:03 PM
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The laugh is he actually thinks he has some of us fooled with all these 'clever words' when a good proportion of SN know exactly what he is. He holds court in this thread like he is some authority on the Middle East while in real life he is probably a glorified shop assistant (not that there is anything wrog with that UNTIL you big yourself up into something else). It's quite sad really and rather pathetic! I only hope he knows what he is doing and doesn't really believe his own hype, but sadly I fear not.
and I know what side JT takes
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22 March 2011, 02:49 PM
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I want to know why the Muslim countries are not helping out much and the Arab league are wobbling, also why British Muslims seem to be negative towards this intervention in general.
Gadaffi was killing Muslims and I thought Islam preached Muslim brotherhood/solidarity? When Israel kills Palestinian terrorists, or accidentally kills Palestinian civilians, these same people start preaching Muslim solidarity, identify themselves as victims of Israel, and vilify Israel.
So why not the same with Gadaffi?
Gadaffi was killing Muslims and I thought Islam preached Muslim brotherhood/solidarity? When Israel kills Palestinian terrorists, or accidentally kills Palestinian civilians, these same people start preaching Muslim solidarity, identify themselves as victims of Israel, and vilify Israel.
So why not the same with Gadaffi?
22 March 2011, 02:55 PM
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I want to know why the Muslim countries are not helping out much and the Arab league are wobbling, also why British Muslims seem to be negative towards this intervention in general.
Gadaffi was killing Muslims and I thought Islam preached Muslim brotherhood/solidarity? When Israel kills Palestinian terrorists, or accidentally kills Palestinian civilians, these same people start preaching Muslim solidarity, identify themselves as victims of Israel, and vilify Israel.
So why not the same with Gadaffi?
Gadaffi was killing Muslims and I thought Islam preached Muslim brotherhood/solidarity? When Israel kills Palestinian terrorists, or accidentally kills Palestinian civilians, these same people start preaching Muslim solidarity, identify themselves as victims of Israel, and vilify Israel.
So why not the same with Gadaffi?
And then his performing seal chimes in for good measure
22 March 2011, 04:10 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=187
This got to you, didn't it?
22 March 2011, 04:22 PM
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22 March 2011, 04:28 PM
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22 March 2011, 05:13 PM
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We both know you have done it on other threads, but maybe you have tried to be a bit cleverer of late.
As an example let's look at this post on this thread:
https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...4&postcount=63
Here it is quoted (see how easy that is JT
)The situation in the tribal areas has created safe havens for Taliban forces fighting in Afghanistan and Taliban activity has also been growing in Pakistan, particularly in the North West Frontier Province (NWFP). The state will not regain control without military solutions, which may lead to full blown revolt and it being overthrown.
Equally problematic is the gradual spread of radical Islamist ideas in Pakistan, in parts of Punjab, as well as the NWFP. This is accentuated by the fact that it is easier for the Taliban to destroy, than for the government to create.
Al-Qaeda have networks that extend from Pakistan's largest cities to remote sanctuaries along the Afghan border.
The state wants to keep NATO happy and also its population. The challenge there is that the general population, predominantly Islamist, hate NATO. The State, however, want to keep NATO happy as we pump billions into the country. Why? Because their nukes are in Western Punjab and within touching distance of the World's largest terrorist network.
So, is Pakistan an extremist state? Well, it employs Shar'ia which I think, according to Western ideals, is extreme, but the West does not classify Pakistan as such as do so would alienate it, and of course they've got nukes. Is it an extremist country? Absolutely!
Equally problematic is the gradual spread of radical Islamist ideas in Pakistan, in parts of Punjab, as well as the NWFP. This is accentuated by the fact that it is easier for the Taliban to destroy, than for the government to create.
Al-Qaeda have networks that extend from Pakistan's largest cities to remote sanctuaries along the Afghan border.
The state wants to keep NATO happy and also its population. The challenge there is that the general population, predominantly Islamist, hate NATO. The State, however, want to keep NATO happy as we pump billions into the country. Why? Because their nukes are in Western Punjab and within touching distance of the World's largest terrorist network.
So, is Pakistan an extremist state? Well, it employs Shar'ia which I think, according to Western ideals, is extreme, but the West does not classify Pakistan as such as do so would alienate it, and of course they've got nukes. Is it an extremist country? Absolutely!
Now let's scan this page:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8116691.stm
And what do we find. All the sentences used to construct your 'opinion'
Busted!!! Granted you have made some effort to make it look good though
22 March 2011, 05:14 PM
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Why do all these discussions end up being about which scoobynet member is better than the next? 
After reading through most of this thread all I know is that F1 fan and Tony still don't get on!
And now JTaylor is the one to have abuse thrown at him.
Anticipated response - ' Well chrispurvis100, you are not contributing to the topic are you!'
Look in the f&cking mirror!
After reading through most of this thread all I know is that F1 fan and Tony still don't get on!
And now JTaylor is the one to have abuse thrown at him.
Anticipated response - ' Well chrispurvis100, you are not contributing to the topic are you!'
Look in the f&cking mirror!
22 March 2011, 05:22 PM
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It's hard to ignore the religion thing although it should be irrelevant, but we have heard plenty of Politicians and other people mention about this being the 3rd 'Muslim country' that the west has bombed in recent years etc.
22 March 2011, 05:22 PM
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As for Taylor I have my reasons...
Anyway what exactly are you contributing to this thread?
22 March 2011, 05:25 PM
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Yes I suppose I see what you are saying, but is it really that important in the context of the humanity of this particular situation. People are being oppressed and killed and the fact they maybe Muslims and the oppressors may be Muslims is really not the key issue here is it?
22 March 2011, 05:26 PM
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LOL, don't think Tony and I have had one genuinely cross word on this thread so I suggest you read again. And I actually offered the man advice about his boot carpet in General ... so there
As for Taylor I have my reasons...
Anyway what exactly are you contributing to this thread?
As for Taylor I have my reasons...
Anyway what exactly are you contributing to this thread?
I am already mentally scarred from the first read.
Come F1 fan, all you seem to do if argue with people on here these days and moan about the government!
22 March 2011, 05:33 PM
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Yes I suppose I see what you are saying, but is it really that important in the context of the humanity of this particular situation. People are being oppressed and killed and the fact they maybe Muslims and the oppressors may be Muslims is really not the key issue here is it?
It just seems when it's muslims killing muslims then the Islamic world cares an awful lot less!
22 March 2011, 05:39 PM
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Sure but would you acknowledged that the Islamic world is typically inflamed by Israeli military action (regardless of reason), and US actions in Iraq for example, even if they accidentally kill civilians - who may be muslims.
It just seems when it's muslims killing muslims then the Islamic world cares an awful lot less!
It just seems when it's muslims killing muslims then the Islamic world cares an awful lot less!
Some Muslims like being told what to do, others don't.
Problem is, I see very few europeans going around suicide bombing each other, even we don't all get on.
I was amazed at some of the images shown on panarama last night, but the problem is, I just don't believe most things I read or see on the TV this days.
Why all of a sudden are we getting involved? Especially when we can't afford to defend our own damn country.
22 March 2011, 05:48 PM
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Sure but would you acknowledged that the Islamic world is typically inflamed by Israeli military action (regardless of reason), and US actions in Iraq for example, even if they accidentally kill civilians - who may be muslims.
It just seems when it's muslims killing muslims then the Islamic world cares an awful lot less!
It just seems when it's muslims killing muslims then the Islamic world cares an awful lot less!
22 March 2011, 06:06 PM
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Jolly good.
Challenge no.2 for you:
Now, please find anywhere on snet, anything that would support your implication that I am of the far-right.
Challenge no.2 for you:
Talking of irony!!! You actually watching and believing anything you see on Al Jazeera LOL!
would have mentioned them, but didn't think they would figure on your far right laden radar.
Their analysis is that the unrest from the Arab world and the Russians and
Chineses is even geater than the picture painted on the pro-West BBC/Sky etc. So what's your diffculty in understanding the ensuing mess?
No need to answer as the dense comment earlier covers that!
would have mentioned them, but didn't think they would figure on your far right laden radar.
Their analysis is that the unrest from the Arab world and the Russians and
Chineses is even geater than the picture painted on the pro-West BBC/Sky etc. So what's your diffculty in understanding the ensuing mess?
No need to answer as the dense comment earlier covers that!