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Old 31 March 2011, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
now move on over and let me pass you
It will depend which track we are on

Compare the roadkill meerkat

The data is interesting as once I hit 50mph I would be pulling away from you right up to VMAX
Old 31 March 2011, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Trout
It will depend which track we are on

Compare the roadkill meerkat

The data is interesting as once I hit 50mph I would be pulling away from you right up to VMAX

The verdict

Nissan GT-R is noticeably faster.

Quelle suprise! Those times look inline with what i'd expect, however naturally subjective variables in there such as driver, track conditions etc etc....however my slightly breathed on GTR is a whole different animal than what is depicted on that website, but again not really comparable...
Old 31 March 2011, 08:43 AM
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Data is for the pre facelift as the ring time for the MY11 GTR is 7min 24secs
Old 31 March 2011, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
The verdict

Nissan GT-R is noticeably faster.

Quelle suprise! Those times look inline with what i'd expect, however naturally subjective variables in there such as driver, track conditions etc etc....however my slightly breathed on GTR is a whole different animal than what is depicted on that website, but again not really comparable...
And look at the data away from the launch time and the measurement is a whole different ball of wax.

If you compare the RS with the 911 Turbo it looks the the turbo annihilates the RS times. But the RS is much quicker from 100-200kph.

4WD and launch control is distorting the dynamic acceleration figures - even looking at standing start figures the RS is pulling away from the GTR above 100mph (I must admit I was surprised by this!).

But you are right - this is for standard cars - not the chavvy tuned ones
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Data is for the pre facelift as the ring time for the MY11 GTR is 7min 24secs
Let's just wait for the MY11 RS to post a time
Old 31 March 2011, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Trout
But you are right - this is for standard cars - not the chavvy tuned ones
Says the man with a meccano wing and graphics kit (you can take the man out of the chav Subaru, but.....)

Great little website that Trout, I guess the RWD platform and mimimum drivetrain losses of the RS are benfiting it at higher speeds, GTR isn't geared for the top end of the speedo and with the stock torque curve they do start to run out of puff in 6th gear....

Slightly more back on topic, http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...ssan_gt-r.html
the Traitors chalk up another victory

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Originally Posted by alloy
Says the man with a meccano wing and graphics kit (you can take the man out of the chav Subaru, but.....)

Great little website that Trout, I guess the RWD platform and mimimum drivetrain losses of the RS are benfiting it at higher speeds, GTR isn't geared for the top end of the speedo and with the stock torque curve they do start to run out of puff in 6th gear....

Slightly more back on topic, http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...ssan_gt-r.html
the Traitors chalk up another victory

The bit in your link that made me laugh is the quote from the feedback

I bet M3 owners get more girls than GT-R owners.

Lol

At least we win somewhere !
Old 31 March 2011, 09:10 AM
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Alloy - I suspect it is aero as well - 911s are very slippy through the air as they have a smallish frontal profile (especially compared to the mobile house that is the GTR).
Old 31 March 2011, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
The bit in your link that made me laugh is the quote from the feedback

I bet M3 owners get more girls than GT-R owners.

Lol

At least we win somewhere !
If you're using your car to pick up girls then you're clearly making up for something else, but don't worry we won't tell anyone. Other than that the only girls you'd be picking up while driving are those that offer themselves from the curb, speaks volumes for the profile of M3 owners

Ian, bits i like that perhaps your rose tinted glasses prohibited from observing are:

31 lap victories to the GTR vs 1 victory to the M3 as the GTR time was set in the wet.

The verdict
Nissan GT-R is noticeably faster.

"Can this really be true? The M3's times are really lacking compared to the Gt-R. The kraut kar got biaached slapped. "

"The gt-r makes the m3 look punk *** on every track on the planet. Along came a GT-R and kicked the M3 in the nuts. "

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Originally Posted by Trout
Alloy - I suspect it is aero as well - 911s are very slippy through the air as they have a smallish frontal profile (especially compared to the mobile house that is the GTR).
Quick google suggest GT3 RS has drag co-efficient of 0.33 and the GTR has 0.27....i'm no physics boff but there's clearly something lacking in the GTR out the factory that hampers its top end abilities, weight? gearing in relation to torque curve? i don't know....however quick remap later and this achillies heel is drastically solved!
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Originally Posted by alloy
If you're using your car to pick up girls then you're clearly making up for something else, but don't worry we won't tell anyone. Other than that the only girls you'd be picking up while driving are those that offer themselves from the curb, speaks volumes for the profile of M3 owners

Ian, bits i like that perhaps your rose tinted glasses prohibited from observing are:

31 lap victories to the GTR vs 1 victory to the M3 as the GTR time was set in the wet.

The verdict
Nissan GT-R is noticeably faster.

"Can this really be true? The M3's times are really lacking compared to the Gt-R. The kraut kar got biaached slapped. "

"The gt-r makes the m3 look punk *** on every track on the planet. Along came a GT-R and kicked the M3 in the nuts. "

I can't go picking girls up in my car as my wife gets all stroppy about it lol


As for all the other stuff , I'm not bothered as my car will never see a track , bought one as I love the car , it's quick enough for my use.

I get my kicks rallying , bouncing off the track at 100 + mph looking at big drops off the side of the mountain
Old 31 March 2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
I get my kicks rallying , bouncing off the track at 100 + mph looking at big drops off the side of the mountain
Now that is thrill seeking!
Old 31 March 2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Not if the sound in that clip is anything to go by!
Old 31 March 2011, 10:38 AM
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Yeah yeah yeah.... Track times are all well and good <yawn>, but which one [i]sounds[i] better?

Old 31 March 2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
I can't go picking girls up in my car as my wife gets all stroppy about it lol


As for all the other stuff , I'm not bothered as my car will never see a track , bought one as I love the car , it's quick enough for my use.

I get my kicks rallying , bouncing off the track at 100 + mph looking at big drops off the side of the mountain
Only looking at big drops? Yah great big Jessie!
Old 31 March 2011, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Yeah yeah yeah.... Track times are all well and good <yawn>, but which one [i]sounds[i] better?

Starting to sound like EVO mag now......
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Only looking at big drops? Yah great big Jessie!
lol , I don't mind being this far off the ground



But the 1500ft shear drops makes you think abit , lets just say it makes you concentrate a little more on what your doing
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Ian - cool!
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Kin el! He only just missed that VW(?) at the end of that approach ramp!

Lovely sound though!
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Originally Posted by alloy
Starting to sound like EVO mag now......
Yes, you certainly are.
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Originally Posted by Trout
It will depend which track we are on

Compare the roadkill meerkat

The data is interesting as once I hit 50mph I would be pulling away from you right up to VMAX
Ooh, you're slow at the Nurburgring fella

TX.
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Originally Posted by zip106
I'm serious!

Searching the classifieds now for a Melbourne red M3....
I bought a Melbourne red e92 at Christmas, I absolutely love it, gorgeous colour and makes a nice change to all the boring grey cars everywhere!
Old 31 March 2011, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Quick google suggest GT3 RS has drag co-efficient of 0.33 and the GTR has 0.27....i'm no physics boff but there's clearly something lacking in the GTR out the factory that hampers its top end abilities, weight? gearing in relation to torque curve? i don't know....however quick remap later and this achillies heel is drastically solved!
It's the MASSIVE WING don't you know

Frontal area will make the difference though - the frontal area of a 911 is relatively small and this really helps it, in spite of a relatively poor drag co-efficient.
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Went out in a clients R8 V10 with full exhauts over lunch.....THAT THING SOUNDS THE NUTS!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Spudgun GTR
I bought a Melbourne red e92 at Christmas, I absolutely love it, gorgeous colour and makes a nice change to all the boring grey cars everywhere!
The only one I've seen for sale is an unregistered one at Sytner Leicester. (with I think, Bamboo leather which I'm not too sure about)

Can't find any used in that colour.
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Just to think a couple of years ago I was offered a pre-reg full fat M3 with spec out of its wndows for £42k!!!
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Do you think deals like that are available now Trout, or were you just in the right place at the right time?

I couldn't get in my mates GTR as the door handles were sunk into the door. He reckoned this was to enable aerodynamics.
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Can't get anywhere near that price for a pre-reg now!

As much as I'd like one, there's something telling me I'd be daft to have two 3 series coupes in the family.
Not sure what to get - I need to change my car but what for?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLjhRqygmac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qju9iEFqp3Y
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Originally Posted by Jimpreza
Do you think deals like that are available now Trout, or were you just in the right place at the right time?

.
there always deals around ....especially now as car dealers are having a bad time , great time to buy a performance car i say


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