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Old 09 April 2011, 12:12 AM
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Corner.

All the scientific calculation programs I can be bothered to try re-render the sum as 48/2 *(9+3) = 288, so there's something at fault with the original notation. Deliberate, I think.
Old 09 April 2011, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Corner.

All the scientific calculation programs I can be bothered to try re-render the sum as 48/2 *(9+3) = 288, so there's something at fault with the original notation. Deliberate, I think.
Do the brackets first.

It's like saying Sting was the talent in The Police, otherwise...
Old 09 April 2011, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
You're a shrewd guy trout
We need to ask Quantnet they will know.
Old 09 April 2011, 07:50 AM
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Seems logical that 48 is divided by the result of the calculation in brackets. The way it is written means that the sum in the brackets relates to the 2 in front of it. 48 is then divided by the result of the bracketed calculation.

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Old 09 April 2011, 09:08 AM
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Mathway says that the answer is 2!!

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Old 09 April 2011, 09:48 AM
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Looking at the expression "48÷2(9+3)", the part "2(9+3)" can be re-written as "(2*9 + 2*3)".

Thus the whole thing becomes "48 ÷ (2*9 + 2*3)" which is "48 ÷ (18 + 6)" which is "48 ÷ 24" which is 2!!!

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Old 09 April 2011, 10:08 AM
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...or let us look at the problem another way.

If we say that the correct answer is "2" then we can say...

48÷2(9+3) = 2

which can be re-written as...

48 = 2 * 2(9+3)

which is...

48 = 2 * 2(12)

or

48 = 2 * 24

or 48 = 48

Thus an answer or "2" works very well

Now let us try the same thing with the "answer" of 288...

48÷2(9+3) = 288
48 = 288 * 2(9+3)
48 = 288 * 2(12)
48 = 288 * 24
48 = 6912 - which is obviously incorrect!!!!

The answer is TWO

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Old 09 April 2011, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by boomer
...or let us look at the problem another way.

If we say that the correct answer is "2" then we can say...

48÷2(9+3) = 2

which can be re-written as...

48 = 2 * 2(9+3)


mb
huh ?

where is that other 2 coming from ?

you've gone from 2 * (9+3) to 2 * 2 * (9+3) .. ??
Old 09 April 2011, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by boomer
Mathway says that the answer is 2!!

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lol mathway tells me its 288
Old 09 April 2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by boomer
...or let us look at the problem another way.

If we say that the correct answer is "2" then we can say...

48÷2(9+3) = 2

which can be re-written as...

48 = 2 * 2(9+3)

which is...

48 = 2 * 2(12)

or

48 = 2 * 24

or 48 = 48

Thus an answer or "2" works very well

Now let us try the same thing with the "answer" of 288...

48÷2(9+3) = 288
48 = 288 * 2(9+3)
48 = 288 * 2(12)
48 = 288 * 24
48 = 6912 - which is obviously incorrect!!!!

The answer is TWO

mb
Nice proof


Or also

48/2(9+3) = 48 * (1/2(9+3)) = 48 * (1/2(12)) = 48 * (1/24) = 48/24 = 2

or, you could think of it like this:

48
--------- =
2(9+3)

makes it easier to visualise.
Old 09 April 2011, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by boomer
Mathway says that the answer is 2!!

mb
Originally Posted by jaytc2003
lol mathway tells me its 288
That makes ( 2 ) answers then
Old 09 April 2011, 11:00 AM
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BUT you could write it like this...


48
__(9+3) = ???
2
Old 09 April 2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by boomer
Mathway says that the answer is 2!!

mb
Who'd listen to them? They can't even say maths properly
Old 09 April 2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trout
BUT you could write it like this...


48
__(9+3) = ???
2
Yes you could indeed, but it would bear no relation to the original mathematical problem.

The way that B2Z wrote it meant the same as the original, but your way changes it completely and is wrong. The answer is 2.

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Old 09 April 2011, 11:30 AM
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Put it into a calculator. It's 288.
Old 09 April 2011, 11:53 AM
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The answer is ALWAYS going to be 2.

Brackets ALWAYS get worked out first

48 ÷ 2(9+3)
48 ÷ (2x12)
48 ÷ 24 = 2

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Old 09 April 2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by boomer
Looking at the expression "48÷2(9+3)", the part "2(9+3)" can be re-written as "(2*9 + 2*3)".
Crikey, I think that's more confusing than any other of these silly people's answers of 288, which are wrong
Old 09 April 2011, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by boomer
Looking at the expression "48÷2(9+3)", the part "2(9+3)" can be re-written as "(2*9 + 2*3)".

Thus the whole thing becomes "48 ÷ (2*9 + 2*3)" which is "48 ÷ (18 + 6)" which is "48 ÷ 24" which is 2!!!

mb
You could claim that the problem is able to be re-written as above, but that does depend on how you interpret it. An alternative would be:

48/2(9+3) can be re-written as 48/2 * (9+3), which in turn leads to:
48/2*12=288

It all depends on how you read the original formula, and I believe that what I have written above is correct based on BODMAS. You must do the brackes first, and then process from left to right doing the multiplication and division.
Old 09 April 2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
As long as you put it into a calculator working the 'b' side out first then you still get 2 because it is 48/24. If you put it into the calculator as 48/2x9+3 then that is not how the problem is written is it? That would also give you the answer of 219. If you start to do part of the problem in your head first (i.e. the 9+3) and then enter that in the calculator as 48/2x12 then you are not entering into the calculator as it is litterally written anyway.
If you put it into a calculator that has bracket functions , exactly as written, it comes out as 288.
Old 09 April 2011, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
lol mathway tells me its 288
If you put "48÷2(9+3)" (which is what the OP posted) into Mathway then you get "2" as the answer, however if you enter "48/2(9+3)" it does indeed appear to give the result as "288".

But as Kieran_Burns says, the Merkins can't even spell "Maths" correctly, so what hope is there for their sums and takeaways

mb
Old 09 April 2011, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
huh ?

where is that other 2 coming from ?

you've gone from 2 * (9+3) to 2 * 2 * (9+3) .. ??
It is called a mathematical equational theory (which used to be taught to school children when O-Levels still existed)

If you move a divisionification from one side of the equals sign to the other it becomes a multiplitudication.

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Old 09 April 2011, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DCTim
Crikey, I think that's more confusing than any other of these silly people's answers of 288, which are wrong
It shouldn't be confusing, as it is basic mathematics

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Old 09 April 2011, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
If you put it into a calculator that has bracket functions , exactly as written, it comes out as 288.
NOT true. There isn't any way to put it into a calculator exactly as it's written, because on a calculator you'd have to physically key in an extra * (between the 2 and the opening bracket) which isn't actually there in the written version.


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