rear wheel arch repair section (rusty arches)
#91
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As I am not here to make profit I can explain to you how I carry out the repair if you like.
Basically I order in a set of brand new impreza front wings from the same model, which most people do not believe. Then the most important thing to know is the n/s front arch is cut away from the new wing and is fabricated to fit the o/s rear quarter. And o/s front arch is fabricated to fit the n/s rear quarter.
I will post pics of this procedure just to show the final outcome. You would need to find a competent fitted to do this properly as it's not a simple job to get perfect.
I have carried out this repair to both 4-door and 2-door imprezas and final outcome is 100% authentic.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
Basically I order in a set of brand new impreza front wings from the same model, which most people do not believe. Then the most important thing to know is the n/s front arch is cut away from the new wing and is fabricated to fit the o/s rear quarter. And o/s front arch is fabricated to fit the n/s rear quarter.
I will post pics of this procedure just to show the final outcome. You would need to find a competent fitted to do this properly as it's not a simple job to get perfect.
I have carried out this repair to both 4-door and 2-door imprezas and final outcome is 100% authentic.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
What is the average cost of the repairs?
I fully understand that they all vary and I have had the repair done on a previous car down here in Cardiff. Depending on cost you could have a big money spinner here.
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Replace the whole arch with a new panel as I have explained, and also to seal the arch from both the underside and inside the car. I will upload some pics shortly of a repair I have carried out and the price can vary depending upon workload etc... I'd say the average price for this would be £300 per quarter, that's including parts, paint & materials, and labour.
Obviously this is a guide price but gives an idea for those with this problem. I hear of garages charging as much to fit the fibreglass arches which do nothing to stop the rust and once they are fitted you can tell immediately that the vehicle has the rust problem.
The job can be a little more expensive on the 4 door as sometimes the repair will need to be taken inside the door shut.
Hope this gives you a rough idea.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
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I have a link to the H&G Bodyshop facebook page where I have uploaded some pics of an Impreza that I currently have in the workshop.
This is only as far as primer as the car will not be painted until after the weekend. I will post the final pics once the car is painted.
Bearing in mind this vehicle is having a little bit more work done to protect the sills, and also having the full sides painted so this is a more expensive job again.
Here's the link:
https://www.facebook.com/HGBodyshop
Just to let you know, you don't need to have a facebook account to view the page and pics.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
This is only as far as primer as the car will not be painted until after the weekend. I will post the final pics once the car is painted.
Bearing in mind this vehicle is having a little bit more work done to protect the sills, and also having the full sides painted so this is a more expensive job again.
Here's the link:
https://www.facebook.com/HGBodyshop
Just to let you know, you don't need to have a facebook account to view the page and pics.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
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You might be lucky, but just to reassure yourself I would remove the inner quarter plastics and check on the condition of the arches from inside the car. These arches rust from the inside out, and most of the time it's too late once it's started to show on the outside.
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The best way to stop the rust reoccurring is to do the following:
Replace the whole arch with a new panel as I have explained, and also to seal the arch from both the underside and inside the car. I will upload some pics shortly of a repair I have carried out and the price can vary depending upon workload etc... I'd say the average price for this would be £300 per quarter, that's including parts, paint & materials, and labour.
Obviously this is a guide price but gives an idea for those with this problem. I hear of garages charging as much to fit the fibreglass arches which do nothing to stop the rust and once they are fitted you can tell immediately that the vehicle has the rust problem.
The job can be a little more expensive on the 4 door as sometimes the repair will need to be taken inside the door shut.
Hope this gives you a rough idea.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
Replace the whole arch with a new panel as I have explained, and also to seal the arch from both the underside and inside the car. I will upload some pics shortly of a repair I have carried out and the price can vary depending upon workload etc... I'd say the average price for this would be £300 per quarter, that's including parts, paint & materials, and labour.
Obviously this is a guide price but gives an idea for those with this problem. I hear of garages charging as much to fit the fibreglass arches which do nothing to stop the rust and once they are fitted you can tell immediately that the vehicle has the rust problem.
The job can be a little more expensive on the 4 door as sometimes the repair will need to be taken inside the door shut.
Hope this gives you a rough idea.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
I have had a set done by a garage in Cardiff a while ago and paid about the same. Now moving on to my 7th Subaru I know the issues. It may be worth popping down to an SWS meet, normally the 2nd Wednesday of each month at the Toby Carvery on J32 of the M4, to drum up business and have a chat.
Cheers
Ian
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Even so, I've had plenty up on the ramp and they've been rusty looking up inside the arches (and obviously showing outside and on the arch lip seam) I saw one the other day which was rotten all round the rear jacking points. And the fuel fillers are all rotten usually too.
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Sounds like a bargain.
Mine has a small bubble on one side, but both need doing. Looking down from the boot behind the plastics you can see rust on the inside of mine above the arch. Also on the nearside rear there's been a bodged repair between the arch and passenger door. You can see there's rust under there so mine might be a little more extensive.
The quote for the work including paint is that for a standard factory colour? Mine is 230 Feather White.
Liked your page on FB this morning.
Mine has a small bubble on one side, but both need doing. Looking down from the boot behind the plastics you can see rust on the inside of mine above the arch. Also on the nearside rear there's been a bodged repair between the arch and passenger door. You can see there's rust under there so mine might be a little more extensive.
The quote for the work including paint is that for a standard factory colour? Mine is 230 Feather White.
Liked your page on FB this morning.
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Kurt,
I have had a set done by a garage in Cardiff a while ago and paid about the same. Now moving on to my 7th Subaru I know the issues. It may be worth popping down to an SWS meet, normally the 2nd Wednesday of each month at the Toby Carvery on J32 of the M4, to drum up business and have a chat.
Cheers
Ian
I have had a set done by a garage in Cardiff a while ago and paid about the same. Now moving on to my 7th Subaru I know the issues. It may be worth popping down to an SWS meet, normally the 2nd Wednesday of each month at the Toby Carvery on J32 of the M4, to drum up business and have a chat.
Cheers
Ian
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Sounds like a bargain.
Mine has a small bubble on one side, but both need doing. Looking down from the boot behind the plastics you can see rust on the inside of mine above the arch. Also on the nearside rear there's been a bodged repair between the arch and passenger door. You can see there's rust under there so mine might be a little more extensive.
The quote for the work including paint is that for a standard factory colour? Mine is 230 Feather White.
Liked your page on FB this morning.
Mine has a small bubble on one side, but both need doing. Looking down from the boot behind the plastics you can see rust on the inside of mine above the arch. Also on the nearside rear there's been a bodged repair between the arch and passenger door. You can see there's rust under there so mine might be a little more extensive.
The quote for the work including paint is that for a standard factory colour? Mine is 230 Feather White.
Liked your page on FB this morning.
If you wanted a more precise quote you are more than welcome to call by the workshop one day if that is possible. Also thanks for the like.
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Just to update here is a link to the complete repair:
https://www.facebook.com/HGBodyshop
If you get any problems viewing from that link then here is a direct link to the album:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8448877&type=1
Any questions please get in touch, hope I have provided some guidance for impreza owners that are suffering.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
https://www.facebook.com/HGBodyshop
If you get any problems viewing from that link then here is a direct link to the album:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8448877&type=1
Any questions please get in touch, hope I have provided some guidance for impreza owners that are suffering.
Kurt - H&G Bodyshop
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If you can source a decent panel beater that's willing to carry out the work I will give a more detailed explaination of the procedure. You will need to find a competent fitter because you can imagine the outcome if fitted incorrectly.
Glad to hear people like the work.
Glad to hear people like the work.
#115
really excellent work h&g would appreciate a more detailed explanation if that would be possible especially on the sealing of the inner arches also do you have any info on replacing the sills is there a replacement panel i could use from another car or a universal panel or do you just make up a repair panel my arches arnt to bad at the moment they have been rolled by a previous owner but are starting to bubble a little the main problem i have is the rear and mid part of the sill any info would be appreciated thanks paul
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So am I. Local body shops to me either daren't do it or are quoting more than it would cost to replace the whole quarter panel.
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I did my own V1 STi before I had my own bodyshop and used a pair of salvage rear quarters to cut out the sections I needed.
Once I took the old paint off my STi and started cutting away it wasn't as bad as I first feared, but still wasn't pretty. The nasty old filler repair was blistering up really bad, but on the one side it had been plated. And whilst it was a very poor plate repair, it had actually helped to prevent the real damage from spreading much further.
Finding a pair of rear quarters that were rust free (barring a tiny bit of surface) wasn't easy, but saved on fabrication time.
I also lead loaded prior to the finishing skim of filler then went overboard with the rust prevention as I don't plan to sell the car.
Once I took the old paint off my STi and started cutting away it wasn't as bad as I first feared, but still wasn't pretty. The nasty old filler repair was blistering up really bad, but on the one side it had been plated. And whilst it was a very poor plate repair, it had actually helped to prevent the real damage from spreading much further.
Finding a pair of rear quarters that were rust free (barring a tiny bit of surface) wasn't easy, but saved on fabrication time.
I also lead loaded prior to the finishing skim of filler then went overboard with the rust prevention as I don't plan to sell the car.
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nice work strada looks like a nice job but finding a rust free set of arches must have been a nightmare seems as tho you took a lot more out of the original rusty panel than i would have thought necessary is there any reason for this? just interested as i will have to do mine in the near future haha thanks paul
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No that was the minimum I could take really. Wish I could find some decent "before" photos. It had been badly bodged with filler before which had expanded and made some huge blisters. When I took the paint off I was pretty relieved to see how little I had to cut away to be honest as I was expecting to have to replace the entire quarter, which is why I sourced two full quarters. I was searching for a while for rust free ones, and even then I agreed to take some from a breakers which were described as one being rust free and the other having a slight amount of rust on the edge, which I knew I'd be able to sort, at least most of the shape would be there. As it was it was nothing around the area I needed anyway.
Other than a little I had to fabricate into the bottom of the passenger's side arch the rest of the car was rust free and incredibly straight. I doubt there's another STi V1 out there so straight, clean and original now, so was worth the effort.
Other than a little I had to fabricate into the bottom of the passenger's side arch the rest of the car was rust free and incredibly straight. I doubt there's another STi V1 out there so straight, clean and original now, so was worth the effort.