Clarebabes

I agree trooper. It's just that there's a lot more people having a lot more kids in the group of people who don't bring them up properly. Hence why we're going to be in such a mess!

fatherpierre

No. Just thought I'd share with you how easy it is to live for free with no pressure to do anything because the tax payer sorts it all out.

And she has 2 sisters and a brother, all of whom have never worked and live for free with their 1 - 4 kids. Their parents were the same.

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Is this her, then?

c_maguire

Provided your loving couple paid for their IVF themselves I hope. After all, having children is not a right, it's a punishment. Or did I mean privilege?

'Drift' suggests a lack of intent which could even muster up a bit a sympathy amongst the liberals. Did you mean 'race'?

I've had two appointments with the nurse at the local surgery recently (ears syringed). Normally I never go near the place.
The first time while I was waiting some common slag just having seen one of the G.P.s came out and.... " She's got no right to talk to me like that, ******* cow, I should have smacked her in the face, I'm not a ******* idiot etc" . I can't write as chavs talk but you get the idea. Aside from being an idiot and not knowing it, this was to her boyfriend/partner and in the waiting area in front of all sorts, some who I imagine really don't want to hear this garbage. Needless to say whilst this and her other mithering was going on, the pair of them seemed fixated on playing around with their mobile phones.
The next time another slag and her companion letting everyone in the waiting room who wasn't deaf know that she was going to " ...******* sort her out, I was gonna slap her..." . Boyfriend and mobile phones and kid in tow this time. This time not referring to a doctor, probably another retard.

c_maguire

If you consider the root cause of most of this country's (and the world's) ills, you can trace them back to the intellectually challenged and their subsequent behaviour.
The solution? Enforced sterilization of those with I.Q.s below 100 perhaps.
If only.

David Lock

Family loyalty - a wonderful thing

The Zohan

+1

fatherpierre

She's no family of mine, unless you count the biological link. Which I don't.

Met her once, spoke to her once and don't anticipate ever meeting her again in my lifetime.

We live 250 miles apart and I would never have met her had I not have had a crazy idea of meeting my biological father about 10 yrs ago, who turned out be a major disappointment.

JTaylor

Galton Institute. (It had to change its name after all that National Socialism business.)

David Lock

Well I hope I would never go on a public board and speak ill of my mother or father whatever I felt about them privately. But hey we all have different outlooks on life and family

dl

(with a wide mix of step bros and sisters and a half sister to boot!)

Leslie

In previous times,if people were not able to afford to bring up more children they did not have any. It was not possible then to have a string of children and claim cash for them which they could spend on drugs and booze as well as virtually ignoring the children and their upbringing.

Les

mattvortex

I think that for these "people" who've never worked or are unemployable because of there behavior, then the government should just give them food vouchers-no money.
There housing is taken care of so they have no need for money if theyre given food vouchers.

I have a waster of a cousin who is now 38 and not worked for 20 years now. He manages to keep having kids though, which i think the dss should say-you're not getting any more money so thats your problem.

Failing that- ship them all over to a small island near that nucleur power station in Japan and leave them to it.

tony de wonderful

The welfare state coupled with open borders is a disaster in the making; it's one reason why immigrants (including the jihadists/islamists) flock here.

tony de wonderful

How did that work then Les in the days before contraception?

You see in the 3rd world people having tons of kids despite extreme poverty. Kids are form of wealth and if they can pull a plough at age 6 have some use.

RA Dunk

I guess it was called common sense and decency and 'not' living above ones means.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Aim a bit higher than 100 please

tony de wonderful

Maybe you could get an exemption?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

You'd be seedless even if we aimed a bit lower

busby330

heres my pennys worth.

For the last year I have been receiving job seekers allowance, I am currently on a new type of thing that used to be called NEW DEAL. Now the ONLY reason I am on the dole is my previous employer went **** up so left me in the ****.
Anyway, Have i been given free tv's, cars etc NOPE and in all honesty I would never accept it, my opinion is if you want something work for it.
I went to the Jobcentre about 4 months ago having been offered a full time job on the condition i got myself a 7.5tonne licence (all up to this point the Jobcentre had being telling me if I need help/training etc etc let them know), anyway took the offer letter in and was told go see the training provider they sent me to (meant to go and see them once every week, even though it was me phoning them to get appointments after waiting 2/3 weeks at a time) in short I was basically passed back and forth between Jobcentre and provider for all in all 4.5 months.
The last time I was politely asked to leave by security as I was making my point a little louder than they wanted me to. I told the moron behind the counter I had worked full time since I was 15, from then until a year ago I had been on the dole once (in between jobs for 2 months), and now I am asking them to help me they are telling me to get stuffed.

in short - If your in a temp position where you need the help DONT BOTHER with the jobcentre they well F**K up as much as possible from processing a form to paying out,
HOWEVER if you're a waste of space with kids never worked a day in your life then the dole is you oyster, you want it they will help you get it.

I am pleased to say I finally start work again full time on tuesday and to be honest it aint a moment to bloody soon.

mattvortex

I think you summed it up very well- for decent folks like yourself who unfortunately have been made unemployed, the job centre/benefits people dont want to know yet seem only to keen to hand out everything to lowlifes who never have and never will work. Crazy!!

All the best in your new employment

Leslie

How long back do you think it is before contraception was thought of and utilised?

I understand that they resort to **** intercourse in those 3rd world countries now which is also why Aids is so widespread over there.

Les

Leslie

No I said "drift" because that was exactly what I meant. Bit of an inadequate attempt to correct what I posted!

Les

JTaylor

That, and the fact that the Catholic Church (including the late Mother Teresa) enforces its 'no condom' policy in sub-Saharan Africa.

busby330

thanks alot mate.
last time i signed on there was a immigrant (somalia i believe) who was being told she needed to go see the training provider or else they would basically stop her money, she sat there and argued for about ten minutes saying she wasn't going to go etc etc in the end the moron behind the counter gave in and said ok I will refer you to someone downstairs and they will arrange something else for you. Now had that been me or any other British citizen I have no doubt we would have been told either turn up or lose the cash. Takes the ****.

Leslie

Hardly surprising since that is part of its doctrine.

Les

tony de wonderful

Yeah but the point is poor people have always had loads of kids.

In a primitive society/economy kids are a kind of investement and wealth, they can pick up a plow, sow seed, carry water etc....rather than a luxury than you pay for and provide the 'perfect upbringing' for and vehicle for your own aspirations (a la British middle class view).

GlesgaKiss

Now they seem to be a very different source of wealth! Although, of all the people claiming benefits for children, you'd like to think that only a small minority would be having them deliberately for that purpose. The media do like to exaggerate these things.

Supposing there was no welfare state, the poor in a modern country would have no reason to have kids for any economic benefit... there's no need for that kind for manual labour anymore at subsistence level, and, rather than being beneficial, they'd only be an extra burden. To be honest a lot of it is just human nature - people get bored, nothing else to do or aim for really than having a bit of fun... before you know it you've got about 4 kids, and the moral tendency in these countries means that tax money goes towards 'helping them'. But in most of these cases the intention was never to get the money and the kids are loved as most are. The existence of benefits still has to take away a great deal of personal responsibility though.

Leslie

I think that covers it well enough.

Les