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Old 02 May 2011, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
Fair enough, For those who have just tuned in though I said I could spell, Not punctuate Just for the record though and not at all aimed at you, Just in general! I look at these threads quite often in the hope of someone providing some proof of what is preached about dump valves, I have never seen any proof of one causing an engine to fail and I have yet to see one with a chav label on the box
While I can't say for sure whether or not an engine has failed because of an aftermarket VTA dump valve being fitted there are numerous threads on here (use the search) where people have reported lumpy idling, hesitancy, misfires and poor MPG that went away as soon as they changed the aftermarket VTA back to the standard recirc valve. Make of that what you will.
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Because VTA dumpvalves have the chav label which is then associated with McDonalds and 14 year old girls being impressed as such. And usually chavs are associated with 'txt spk'

He didn't ask WHAT dump valve to use, he asked about LOCATING one he'd seen in a film - I think it's important to remember that
So thats what the youngsters are up to did we ever find out which one it was
Old 02 May 2011, 10:28 PM
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Seems to be the same old names time and time again managing to steer a topic way of course !
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
While I can't say for sure whether or not an engine has failed because of an aftermarket VTA dump valve being fitted there are numerous threads on here (use the search) where people have reported lumpy idling, hesitancy, misfires and poor MPG that went away as soon as they changed the aftermarket VTA back to the standard recirc valve. Make of that what you will.

I have done and do accept this fact There are certain VTA dump valves that don't cause these problems though, Simple solution would be to stay away from the ones known to cause these problems I have seen threads where spark plugs have caused the same problems you mention but they are not labeled chavvy
Old 02 May 2011, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
I have done and do accept this fact There are certain VTA dump valves that don't cause these problems though, Simple solution would be to stay away from the ones known to cause these problems I have seen threads where spark plugs have caused the same problems you mention but they are not labeled chavvy
Yes, but you don't deliberately change the spark plugs so your car runs worse, but makes a whooshing noise on gear changes do you now?
Old 02 May 2011, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WildPikey
I have done and do accept this fact There are certain VTA dump valves that don't cause these problems though, Simple solution would be to stay away from the ones known to cause these problems I have seen threads where spark plugs have caused the same problems you mention but they are not labeled chavvy
You do need spark plugs to run an engine, you don't need a vta dump valve though do you
Old 02 May 2011, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
So do you think that persons that use this form of communication are lazy and retarded?
If someone (who has no learning difficulties) does not have enough brains to string the basics of a simple sentence together in decent English then yes they are lazy and retarded.
Old 02 May 2011, 11:25 PM
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so if i post a thread on this sit i ned to let you no that i have a learning difficultie so that you no im not lazy and retarded.
Old 02 May 2011, 11:25 PM
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Theres an easy option for all those on here having a pop at each other about everything but the original question,meet up down the local park and have a scrap.
Old 02 May 2011, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by j200 hew
so if i post a thread on this sit i ned to let you no that i have a learning difficultie so that you no im not lazy and retarded.
Even despite the obvious spelling mistakes above that sentence is actually easier to read than text speak.

Last edited by RA Dunk; 02 May 2011 at 11:31 PM. Reason: lol spelling mistake :-)
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Originally Posted by scoobiesteve103
Theres an easy option for all those on here having a pop at each other about everything but the original question,meet up down the local park and have a scrap.
LOL if that actually happened
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Originally Posted by j200 hew
so if i post a thread on this sit i ned to let you no that i have a learning difficultie so that you no im not lazy and retarded.
A quick scan through other posts of yours and this quote above doesn't fit. (unless of course somebody else does actually type posts out for you)

As has been said, there is a big difference between somebody who has difficulties, or is just simply not great when it comes to spelling, and those too lazy to make an effort when interacting with a wide range of people. Just sitting there typing their text speak, expecting others to decipher what they are talking about, usually when they are the ones wanting help/advice.

Anyway, as I have already said, if people want to seriously discuss this, feel free to post up a thread in NSR. It is unlikely, at best, to change the rules, but I'm sure everyone can get their opinions out without keeping a thread completely off topic.

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Old 02 May 2011, 11:39 PM
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I'm sorry to say this chaps but there really are some very sad people using this forum. Have you not got anything better to do other than post pathetic bitchy comments about each other. For Christ sake guys, who gives a toss if one can spell better than another, or one doesn't like the way another types, get a bloody life.
I use this site for issues regarding my car. I come on here to learn about different things that I'm not that sure of. I ask advice from guys more experienced than myself and I also use it for the awesome 'for sale' section.
Fortunately (unlike many of you) I have a life outside my PC.

Grow up fellas, turn off your PC and get a Fu*king life.
Old 02 May 2011, 11:40 PM
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yes it is but people dont tack the **** out of text speak and that makes me fill ****
Old 02 May 2011, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I'm sorry to say this chaps but there really are some very sad people using this forum. Have you not got anything better to do other than post pathetic bitchy comments about each other. For Christ sake guys, who gives a toss if one can spell better than another, or one doesn't like the way another types, get a bloody life.
I use this site for issues regarding my car. I come on here to learn about different things that I'm not that sure of. I ask advice from guys more experienced than myself and I also use it for the awesome 'for sale' section.
Fortunately (unlike many of you) I have a life outside my PC.

Grow up fellas, turn off your PC and get a Fu*king life.
I hope you can see the irony there
Old 02 May 2011, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
expecting others to decipher what they are talking about
TBH, this is the biggest problem I have with people using 'txt spk', it's actually harder for me to try and work out what the person is saying than it would be if they used or even tried to use English, if they can't be bothered to use the English language I can't be bothered trying to read what they are saying.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I'm sorry to say this chaps but there really are some very sad people using this forum. Have you not got anything better to do other than post pathetic bitchy comments about each other. For Christ sake guys, who gives a toss if one can spell better than another, or one doesn't like the way another types, get a bloody life.
I use this site for issues regarding my car. I come on here to learn about different things that I'm not that sure of. I ask advice from guys more experienced than myself and I also use it for the awesome 'for sale' section.
Fortunately (unlike many of you) I have a life outside my PC.

Grow up fellas, turn off your PC and get a Fu*king life.
+1 it seems more and more of these sort of threads seem to be popping up lately going completly off topic and the original thread gets forgotton about but at the end of the day each to there own people can do what they want to there cars.

ian
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my wife wrote it for me but she is in bed so have to do it at the mo
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I'm sorry to say this chaps but there really are some very sad people using this forum. Have you not got anything better to do other than post pathetic bitchy comments about each other. For Christ sake guys, who gives a toss if one can spell better than another, or one doesn't like the way another types, get a bloody life.
I use this site for issues regarding my car. I come on here to learn about different things that I'm not that sure of. I ask advice from guys more experienced than myself and I also use it for the awesome 'for sale' section.
Fortunately (unlike many of you) I have a life outside my PC.

Grow up fellas, turn off your PC and get a Fu*king life.
Exactly, and the reason why alot of other people do. What some people fail to grasp is that they could be missing out on valuable information and advice purely down to the fact that they can't be bothered to make an effort to be broadly understood.

Many people simply don't understand text speak (alot of the more experienced guys here are old school) or don't have the will to work out what is being 'said', and why should they? If a poster can't be bothered to make an effort to be understood, why should people, who may have a wealth of knowledge and experience, take even more time out just to try and decipher what is being asked.

Again I will labour the point, text speak and a difficulty with English are two very different things.
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Thread posted in NSR as suggested.

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...vils-work.html

Now for goodness sake can we get this thread back on topic
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good point but peopel tack the **** out of my speling then on s/n

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Old 03 May 2011, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Thread posted in NSR as suggested.

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...vils-work.html

Now for goodness sake can we get this thread back on topic
dont think it will mate same things going on in the p1 thread and the traffic light king thread

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Originally Posted by j200 hew
good point but you do peopel tack the **** out of my speling then
Personally I will only pick someone up on their spelling if they are being a smart **** i.e. it's reactionary (and yes I know I can be one too ). You are not typing in text speak and are doing your best so I have no issue with you.

Maybe I am being a little unfair picking on text speak itself. My issue is with people who are too lazy to try and type properly and hence use text speak instead.

Come on over to the thread in the Non Scooby Related section and put your point of view as I know I can come across as flippant, but it is just may way... I don't mean anything by it really and maybe I am being too black and white over the this issue. It all makes for a good discussion anyway so please contribute.
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Originally Posted by j200 hew
good point but you do peopel tack the **** out of my speling then
If someone takes the **** out of your spelling (and by that, poor spelling where some attempt has been made, unlike text speak) you need to either RTM the post or PM a moderator/admin to deal with it.

As I (and others have said many times) there is a difference between the two.

Anyhow, back on track, and use the link F1 has kindly posted to discuss further.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Personally I will only pick someone up on their spelling if they are being a smart **** i.e. it's reactionary (and yes I know I can be one too ). You are not typing in text speak and are doing your best so I have no issue with you.

Maybe I am being a little unfair picking on text speak itself. My issue is with people who are too lazy to try and type properly and hence use text speak instead.

Come on over to the thread in the Non Scooby Related section and put your point of view as I know I can come across as flippant, but it is just may way... I don't mean anything by it really and maybe I am being too black and white over the this issue. It all makes for a good discussion anyway so please contribute.
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Darn it
Old 03 May 2011, 12:39 AM
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Other than the difference in sound is there any performance benefits from running a ( blow off valve? ) over the dump valve or are they effectively the same thing ? ( I'm new to turbos and not that clued up )
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Originally Posted by Felix79
Other than the difference in sound is there any performance benefits from running a ( blow off valve? ) over the dump valve or are they effectively the same thing ? ( I'm new to turbos and not that clued up )
Ive been told they stop the tubo from stalling when changing gear.
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Originally Posted by Felix79
Other than the difference in sound is there any performance benefits from running a ( blow off valve? ) over the dump valve or are they effectively the same thing ? ( I'm new to turbos and not that clued up )
Have look at this thread

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...-question.html

or this

http://jsalmi.com/bov/


Hope help.


Jura
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Thanks Jura , I think I get it now.

If running one of these can cause the engine to run rich , am I right in thinking it would cause misfires , ignighted fuel in the exhaust and black smoke from unburnt fuel ? Also I wouldthink you be dry bummed during the emission testing phase of an MOT.


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