The Apprentice 2011
14 July 2011, 11:09 AM
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How the hell is that Susan still in the running? 
Cricket bat + her face = satisfaction. 
I agree that Tom will win. He just seems to have an endless capacity for coming up with good ideas......well.... apart from the 'Columbus being British and discovering the Potato' saga last night!
Cricket bat + her face = satisfaction. I agree that Tom will win. He just seems to have an endless capacity for coming up with good ideas......well.... apart from the 'Columbus being British and discovering the Potato' saga last night!
14 July 2011, 11:27 AM
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Jim is a total ***** if you ask me, full of BS. I'm looking forward to seeing his business plan pulled apart next week.
Tom is the only one that doesn't talk like a walking marketing textbook, another corporate robot, so breath of fresh air in that way.
Tom is the only one that doesn't talk like a walking marketing textbook, another corporate robot, so breath of fresh air in that way.
14 July 2011, 11:52 AM
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Thought about it a bit more, and I think Susan Ma will win. Here's why:
She has a successful business that is returning real profits.
She has a product and and more importantly a brand that is already in the market.
She is in the market that has huge potential.
On the show, she has often made the right calls even though none of the others listened to her.
She's PM's twice and won twice so she can lead and manage a team successfully.
Forget all the gaffs like "do the French love their children" etc, when it came to making business decisions and negotiations she shown excellent ability.
Tom has great potential as an inventor, but though he has brought a few products to the market successfully, he does not have a product or a brand to market.
Jim can talk the talk, but has no proven ability to successfully bring a product to market and successfully run a business. He will have to rely heavily on his business plan.
Helen again, can organise and lead a team well and has also shown to be able to make the right calls. But again like Jim has no business and therefore no proven ability to successfully run a business. Again will have to rely heavily on her business plan.
Jim is the weakest of the final 4.
IMO.
She has a successful business that is returning real profits.
She has a product and and more importantly a brand that is already in the market.
She is in the market that has huge potential.
On the show, she has often made the right calls even though none of the others listened to her.
She's PM's twice and won twice so she can lead and manage a team successfully.
Forget all the gaffs like "do the French love their children" etc, when it came to making business decisions and negotiations she shown excellent ability.
Tom has great potential as an inventor, but though he has brought a few products to the market successfully, he does not have a product or a brand to market.
Jim can talk the talk, but has no proven ability to successfully bring a product to market and successfully run a business. He will have to rely heavily on his business plan.
Helen again, can organise and lead a team well and has also shown to be able to make the right calls. But again like Jim has no business and therefore no proven ability to successfully run a business. Again will have to rely heavily on her business plan.
Jim is the weakest of the final 4.
IMO.
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14 July 2011, 12:03 PM
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Im guessing they are not allowed to just jump online and google something they are unsure about? I was expecting one of the Dominos and Maccy D's bods to jump on that when Helen kept banging on about 100% british.
To be fair they did seem to be stitched with those brief Q&A sessions as neither team seemed prepared for it. That said he should have realised as soon as he said it that 60 customers in 2hrs was nowhere near right. His downfall was his decision to let the girls work together rather than him teaming up with one of them.
I loved the way at the start of the challenge Natasha was highlighting her degree in hospitality and how it made her ideal for this task. As soon as they got in the boardroom the degree she stated it meant nothing at all.
To be fair they did seem to be stitched with those brief Q&A sessions as neither team seemed prepared for it. That said he should have realised as soon as he said it that 60 customers in 2hrs was nowhere near right. His downfall was his decision to let the girls work together rather than him teaming up with one of them.
I loved the way at the start of the challenge Natasha was highlighting her degree in hospitality and how it made her ideal for this task. As soon as they got in the boardroom the degree she stated it meant nothing at all.
14 July 2011, 12:09 PM
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Tom or Susan for the win. Both product people and that is what Sugar wants this time round.
14 July 2011, 01:16 PM
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Thought about it a bit more, and I think Susan Ma will win. Here's why:
She has a successful business that is returning real profits.
She has a product and and more importantly a brand that is already in the market.
She is in the market that has huge potential.
On the show, she has often made the right calls even though none of the others listened to her.
She's PM's twice and won twice so she can lead and manage a team successfully.
Forget all the gaffs like "do the French love their children" etc, when it came to making business decisions and negotiations she shown excellent ability.
Tom has great potential as an inventor, but though he has brought a few products to the market successfully, he does not have a product or a brand to market.
Jim can talk the talk, but has no proven ability to successfully bring a product to market and successfully run a business. He will have to rely heavily on his business plan.
Helen again, can organise and lead a team well and has also shown to be able to make the right calls. But again like Jim has no business and therefore no proven ability to successfully run a business. Again will have to rely heavily on her business plan.
Jim is the weakest of the final 4.
IMO.
She has a successful business that is returning real profits.
She has a product and and more importantly a brand that is already in the market.
She is in the market that has huge potential.
On the show, she has often made the right calls even though none of the others listened to her.
She's PM's twice and won twice so she can lead and manage a team successfully.
Forget all the gaffs like "do the French love their children" etc, when it came to making business decisions and negotiations she shown excellent ability.
Tom has great potential as an inventor, but though he has brought a few products to the market successfully, he does not have a product or a brand to market.
Jim can talk the talk, but has no proven ability to successfully bring a product to market and successfully run a business. He will have to rely heavily on his business plan.
Helen again, can organise and lead a team well and has also shown to be able to make the right calls. But again like Jim has no business and therefore no proven ability to successfully run a business. Again will have to rely heavily on her business plan.
Jim is the weakest of the final 4.
IMO.
Out of the 4 of them, Tom will have the `New` idea.
14 July 2011, 03:12 PM
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How about losing the task big time as PM including cocking his pitch up in regards to the sales numbers, having no business plan. His only saving grace was that Natasha was so much worse and moping around like a stroppy mare. Not the kind of result you want right before the final.
14 July 2011, 03:48 PM
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Would like Tom to win as we went to the same school and Uni, but don't think he has the management skills. Reckon Susan is the most complete package despite the costing failings last night. All she really lacks is the maturity of the others.
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14 July 2011, 04:11 PM
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Would like Tom to win as we went to the same school and Uni, but don't think he has the management skills. Reckon Susan is the most complete package despite the costing failings last night. All she really lacks is the maturity of the others.
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14 July 2011, 07:13 PM
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Yeh, Natasha has gone YEH! "Yeh, Susan listen to yourself YEH, you're behaving like a spoilt brat, yeh"
Got to hand it to Natasha as she has come from a poor background. Needs to change the "Girls World" eye make up though!
Who will win is anyone's guess. I aways thought Helen would as she's been almost faultless, but she's beginning to remind me of Aunt Sally with that stiff look she has.
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Got to hand it to Natasha as she has come from a poor background. Needs to change the "Girls World" eye make up though!
Who will win is anyone's guess. I aways thought Helen would as she's been almost faultless, but she's beginning to remind me of Aunt Sally with that stiff look she has.
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15 July 2011, 12:41 AM
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Well, I guess Helen should be equally criticised on that, as she certainly appeared to agree and think it was a good idea to use that 'advertisement' in the task.
He may have fluffed up on his history, but I still find him the most genuine and decent candidate. However, sadly, to survive in business, maybe those aren't the qualities needed.
He may have fluffed up on his history, but I still find him the most genuine and decent candidate. However, sadly, to survive in business, maybe those aren't the qualities needed.
15 July 2011, 08:46 AM
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Well, I guess Helen should be equally criticised on that, as she certainly appeared to agree and think it was a good idea to use that 'advertisement' in the task.
He may have fluffed up on his history, but I still find him the most genuine and decent candidate. However, sadly, to survive in business, maybe those aren't the qualities needed.
He may have fluffed up on his history, but I still find him the most genuine and decent candidate. However, sadly, to survive in business, maybe those aren't the qualities needed.
17 July 2011, 10:52 PM
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18 July 2011, 10:11 AM
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WTF was Helen thinking of?
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
18 July 2011, 11:30 AM
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That Susan is a massive dick, her 'business' is a market stall selling skincare products, she pays no wages, no VAT most likely no tax and her products are not tested so not legal to sell in the UK as far as I can work out. To top it off it would appear that she stole the idea from someone else anyway. Some business woman woman she is.
Tom designed an manufactured a product and managed to get it sold in walmart. He was the only candidate the rest were either jumped up double glazing sellers or in the case of some just complete dicks.
Tom designed an manufactured a product and managed to get it sold in walmart. He was the only candidate the rest were either jumped up double glazing sellers or in the case of some just complete dicks.
18 July 2011, 12:57 PM
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WTF was Helen thinking of?
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
echo agreement on the still would scenario, although she'd have to find the time in her work schedule.
18 July 2011, 01:06 PM
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WTF was Helen thinking of?
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
Shame really, as she did look fit as shen she came out. So did Susan for that matter.
18 July 2011, 01:34 PM
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WTF was Helen thinking of?
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
I had her marked as a sure winner. And then she presents a business plan designed by a 6 year old based around what she thought Alan Sugar would like in an activity she has no previous expertise in!
Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I still would though.
Tom's description of his Walmart pitch in the boardroom was classic, talk about saving the best till last.... Helen had a face like she was thinking 'Why the f**k hadn't he mentioned that in the last 10 weeks the b**tard"
Her desperate last ditch attempt to change business plan was patheticand cynical and for that reason alone I am glad she was fired.