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11 May 2011, 12:26 PM
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you every actually asked a girl about what they think of body builders ?
most laugh themselves stupid. plus the moment they stop training- fat bloke.
11 May 2011, 12:33 PM
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I see. Not necessary btw, I just thought you were going to gym for some reason.
When I was doing what I mentioned above, that was with free weights at home and got the results I was after. But I guess if you're more serious about it the gym is the place to be for advice, motivation and help etc.
When I was doing what I mentioned above, that was with free weights at home and got the results I was after. But I guess if you're more serious about it the gym is the place to be for advice, motivation and help etc.
11 May 2011, 12:33 PM
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11 May 2011, 12:37 PM
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You cant expect people with no concept of how the human body works, to come out with anything other than garbage!
http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/...-Into-Fat.html
11 May 2011, 12:45 PM
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11 May 2011, 12:47 PM
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11 May 2011, 12:50 PM
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My advice:
Get off a Subaru related website and join a bodybuilding website for answers.
Read, read then read again.
Choose a plan and stick to it.
Dont expect results overnight.
Dont ask what other people do, its what works for YOU! You may have to fail a few times until you strike a balance.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/
Have fun.
Get off a Subaru related website and join a bodybuilding website for answers.
Read, read then read again.
Choose a plan and stick to it.
Dont expect results overnight.
Dont ask what other people do, its what works for YOU! You may have to fail a few times until you strike a balance.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/
Have fun.
11 May 2011, 12:54 PM
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Ok, Im of similar height and size - 6ft & 11 stone with a very small frame, so quite similar to you, and I was able to make some progress.
Started of at 8.5 stone, and with BBing (thats gym + eating / diet) I got that up to 11 stone. I went from super skinny almost dead, and able to count most my ribs to just skinny / thin.
Diet is the most important thing to get right, even if you perform perfectly in the gym, you will not get very far without a good diet.
To increase muscle mass you need to be on a calorie surplace, say 500 cals. Relative to a person not bbing, you will need a high intake of good quality protein and a mix of slow digesting and moderate digesting carbohydrates. Dont forget the good fats, yes you want to cut down on the chips (clean bulk) but you still need your essential fatty acids.
As for the gym, well there are many variations on what you can do, but for beginners, the general rule is keep to the core exercies, and start off with a low weight, and practice keeping good form throughout the exercise / set. Once you have mastered these, its far easier to move on to the other muscle groups, and to keep injury free.
Supplements - its all in the name, unless you are specifically buying meal replacements then a supplement to should only be an addition a good, well rounded diet.
So much more could be said - for good info visit bodybuilding.com and use the search feature (stay away from the Misc).
Just think of in terms of making your car go faster. For a good car you have to upgrade everything - power & handling, same with bbing. Start slacking and you wont see the gains you want.
Started of at 8.5 stone, and with BBing (thats gym + eating / diet) I got that up to 11 stone. I went from super skinny almost dead, and able to count most my ribs to just skinny / thin.
Diet is the most important thing to get right, even if you perform perfectly in the gym, you will not get very far without a good diet.
To increase muscle mass you need to be on a calorie surplace, say 500 cals. Relative to a person not bbing, you will need a high intake of good quality protein and a mix of slow digesting and moderate digesting carbohydrates. Dont forget the good fats, yes you want to cut down on the chips (clean bulk) but you still need your essential fatty acids.
As for the gym, well there are many variations on what you can do, but for beginners, the general rule is keep to the core exercies, and start off with a low weight, and practice keeping good form throughout the exercise / set. Once you have mastered these, its far easier to move on to the other muscle groups, and to keep injury free.
Supplements - its all in the name, unless you are specifically buying meal replacements then a supplement to should only be an addition a good, well rounded diet.
So much more could be said - for good info visit bodybuilding.com and use the search feature (stay away from the Misc).
Just think of in terms of making your car go faster. For a good car you have to upgrade everything - power & handling, same with bbing. Start slacking and you wont see the gains you want.
11 May 2011, 03:00 PM
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Is that all you ate for 6 months?
Were you a regular gym-go'er before then?
I'm a similar body type by the sounds of it and I've put on quite a bit on my gut over the last couple of years. Would really like to make the effort to shift and try to get some definition back (well, when I say back....)
Were you a regular gym-go'er before then?
I'm a similar body type by the sounds of it and I've put on quite a bit on my gut over the last couple of years. Would really like to make the effort to shift and try to get some definition back (well, when I say back....)
It seemed like I was constantly cooking and preparing and eating meals and really amazed that I managed to fit gym sessions in between! Breakfast in the morning, 10am eat a snack size meal, 12pm lunch, 3pm meal again, 5pm dinner, gym and then 10pm supper. I could have kept this up to get even bigger, but got to around12.5 stone in six months and this is the size and weight I am happy with and have been this size and weight for years. And because of this, even when I stopped going to the gym for several years due to kids, I stayed like this because I think my body got used to this size. In my early years of training, my weight would just drop back down a lot even from just a month of not going.
My routine was based on push-pull principle sticking to mostly compound movements. Pushing exercises, chest, shoulders, triceps in one session, pulling exercises, back, traps and biceps in the 2nd session, 3rd session legs and abs, squats, leg curls, calfs, and various crunches and some cardio if I still had the energy. I still use this routine Monday, Wednesday and Friday as it works for me.
My routine was for building and now maintaining muscle size and shape. If you want to loose some weight around your gut and get definition back, then this routine isn't for you. I would go with some light weights, high reps, but the majority of your workout should comprise of cadio and fat burning exercises before building muscle. Definition comes with fat loss, not muscle size.
11 May 2011, 03:21 PM
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Yeah, I've been quite a regular at the gym. Been going to the gym since 1993 when I was about 9-9.5 stone. Really hit a plateau in gain when I hit just under 11 stone and was there for several years. I tried all the supplements back then, Megamass2000, Wieder Muscle Builder, Tropicana Great Stuff, Wieder Crash Weight Gain, Met Rx meal replacement, vanadyl sulphate, chromium picolinate, creatine, etc...some worked some didn't, others just gave me a lot of wind!! Then I just thought sod it, just go hardcore on the diet. Yes, 95% of my diet was just chicken and pasta with pasta sauce and some veg, and rice and egg white, again with some veg. Like I said, it's tough going, might add chilli or use different pasta sauces etc to try and bring some variety into the diet, but that was it, oh and sometimes cereal for breakfast.
It seemed like I was constantly cooking and preparing and eating meals and really amazed that I managed to fit gym sessions in between! Breakfast in the morning, 10am eat a snack size meal, 12pm lunch, 3pm meal again, 5pm dinner, gym and then 10pm supper. I could have kept this up to get even bigger, but got to around12.5 stone in six months and this is the size and weight I am happy with and have been this size and weight for years. And because of this, even when I stopped going to the gym for several years due to kids, I stayed like this because I think my body got used to this size. In my early years of training, my weight would just drop back down a lot even from just a month of not going.
My routine was based on push-pull principle sticking to mostly compound movements. Pushing exercises, chest, shoulders, triceps in one session, pulling exercises, back, traps and biceps in the 2nd session, 3rd session legs and abs, squats, leg curls, calfs, and various crunches and some cardio if I still had the energy. I still use this routine Monday, Wednesday and Friday as it works for me.
My routine was for building and now maintaining muscle size and shape. If you want to loose some weight around your gut and get definition back, then this routine isn't for you. I would go with some light weights, high reps, but the majority of your workout should comprise of cadio and fat burning exercises before building muscle. Definition comes with fat loss, not muscle size.
It seemed like I was constantly cooking and preparing and eating meals and really amazed that I managed to fit gym sessions in between! Breakfast in the morning, 10am eat a snack size meal, 12pm lunch, 3pm meal again, 5pm dinner, gym and then 10pm supper. I could have kept this up to get even bigger, but got to around12.5 stone in six months and this is the size and weight I am happy with and have been this size and weight for years. And because of this, even when I stopped going to the gym for several years due to kids, I stayed like this because I think my body got used to this size. In my early years of training, my weight would just drop back down a lot even from just a month of not going.
My routine was based on push-pull principle sticking to mostly compound movements. Pushing exercises, chest, shoulders, triceps in one session, pulling exercises, back, traps and biceps in the 2nd session, 3rd session legs and abs, squats, leg curls, calfs, and various crunches and some cardio if I still had the energy. I still use this routine Monday, Wednesday and Friday as it works for me.
My routine was for building and now maintaining muscle size and shape. If you want to loose some weight around your gut and get definition back, then this routine isn't for you. I would go with some light weights, high reps, but the majority of your workout should comprise of cadio and fat burning exercises before building muscle. Definition comes with fat loss, not muscle size.
Push/Pull/Legs - awesome routine
Are you doing it 5x5 or 3x8?
11 May 2011, 04:12 PM
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4 day spilt is plenty enough for body building, monday chest and calves, tuesday legs, wednesday day off, thursday shoulders and triceps, friday back and biceps.
I am 6ft started at 8 and a half stone and up to 13 stone 9lbs now, diet is key like someone said to me once "if aint nailed down eat it and you will grow" I try to eat every 2 hours of so and a minimum of 2 USN protein shakes a day
I am 6ft started at 8 and a half stone and up to 13 stone 9lbs now, diet is key like someone said to me once "if aint nailed down eat it and you will grow" I try to eat every 2 hours of so and a minimum of 2 USN protein shakes a day
Good gains on your weight there banny.....how long did that take you
Tbh getting the size on is easier than trying to loose it
11 May 2011, 04:22 PM
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well,at 11 stone,your not going to gain any major visible muscle bulk,i was the same 8 mths ago.
I started to take My proteins Hurricane XS,which has oats,creatine and a whole host of other goodies in it,which will help your food intake if its not correct,i.e you currently dont eat a whole chicken a day etc etc
then, i take My Protein Whey protein supplememt,as we all know,protein is what develops muscle.
i went from 11 stone to current 13.6 stone (an not a jibberjabber belly etc) in 8 mths
good luck
I started to take My proteins Hurricane XS,which has oats,creatine and a whole host of other goodies in it,which will help your food intake if its not correct,i.e you currently dont eat a whole chicken a day etc etc
then, i take My Protein Whey protein supplememt,as we all know,protein is what develops muscle.
i went from 11 stone to current 13.6 stone (an not a jibberjabber belly etc) in 8 mths
good luck
11 May 2011, 04:43 PM
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I typically do 2 exercises per body part for 4 sets; 2 warm up sets - 50% of max weight for 10-12 reps, 2nd set 60% to 10 reps. The final 2 sets I go heavy, about 80% for 8 reps on the 3rd set and the 4th at max for at least 6 reps until failure. Of all the various routines I've tried the good ol' fashion pyramid works best for me. 
One thing I notice a lot in the gym is that quite a few people have poor form as they tend to try and lift the heaviest weight they can by either throwing the weight or only partially complete a movement and if I'm honest, I was guilty of this too in the past. Now my weights are a little lighter than they used to be, but just as hard, if not harder by keeping a strict form to the full movement of the exercise to get the target muscle working really hard. As a result the muscle is stronger and better shaped.
One thing I notice a lot in the gym is that quite a few people have poor form as they tend to try and lift the heaviest weight they can by either throwing the weight or only partially complete a movement and if I'm honest, I was guilty of this too in the past. Now my weights are a little lighter than they used to be, but just as hard, if not harder by keeping a strict form to the full movement of the exercise to get the target muscle working really hard. As a result the muscle is stronger and better shaped.
11 May 2011, 04:43 PM
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My advice:
Get off a Subaru related website and join a bodybuilding website for answers.
Read, read then read again.
Choose a plan and stick to it.
Dont expect results overnight.
Dont ask what other people do, its what works for YOU! You may have to fail a few times until you strike a balance.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/
Have fun.
Get off a Subaru related website and join a bodybuilding website for answers.
Read, read then read again.
Choose a plan and stick to it.
Dont expect results overnight.
Dont ask what other people do, its what works for YOU! You may have to fail a few times until you strike a balance.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/
Have fun.
Not entirely true bud , there's lots of lads who train who don't mind giving someone a bit of advice
To just jump on a bodybuilding site and say hi I'm new , I'm 8.5 stone and want to be the biggest fooooka on my street........doesn't quite work
On a lot of bb sites you will get infested with the sharks selling you snide gear
11 May 2011, 04:49 PM
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I typically do 2 exercises per body part for 4 sets; 2 warm up sets - 50% of max weight for 10-12 reps, 2nd set 60% to 10 reps. The final 2 sets I go heavy, about 80% for 8 reps on the 3rd set and the 4th at max for at least 6 reps until failure. Of all the various routines I've tried the good ol' fashion pyramid works best for me.
One thing I notice a lot in the gym is that quite a few people have poor form as they tend to try and lift the heaviest weight they can by either throwing the weight or only partially complete a movement and if I'm honest, I was guilty of this too in the past. Now my weights are a little lighter than they used to be, but just as hard, if not harder by keeping a strict form to the full movement of the exercise to get the target muscle working really hard. As a result the muscle is stronger and better shaped.
One thing I notice a lot in the gym is that quite a few people have poor form as they tend to try and lift the heaviest weight they can by either throwing the weight or only partially complete a movement and if I'm honest, I was guilty of this too in the past. Now my weights are a little lighter than they used to be, but just as hard, if not harder by keeping a strict form to the full movement of the exercise to get the target muscle working really hard. As a result the muscle is stronger and better shaped.
11 May 2011, 05:18 PM
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I typically do 2 exercises per body part for 4 sets; 2 warm up sets - 50% of max weight for 10-12 reps, 2nd set 60% to 10 reps. The final 2 sets I go heavy, about 80% for 8 reps on the 3rd set and the 4th at max for at least 6 reps until failure. Of all the various routines I've tried the good ol' fashion pyramid works best for me.
One thing I notice a lot in the gym is that quite a few people have poor form as they tend to try and lift the heaviest weight they can by either throwing the weight or only partially complete a movement and if I'm honest, I was guilty of this too in the past. Now my weights are a little lighter than they used to be, but just as hard, if not harder by keeping a strict form to the full movement of the exercise to get the target muscle working really hard. As a result the muscle is stronger and better shaped.
One thing I notice a lot in the gym is that quite a few people have poor form as they tend to try and lift the heaviest weight they can by either throwing the weight or only partially complete a movement and if I'm honest, I was guilty of this too in the past. Now my weights are a little lighter than they used to be, but just as hard, if not harder by keeping a strict form to the full movement of the exercise to get the target muscle working really hard. As a result the muscle is stronger and better shaped.
Upper body > rest day > legs + misc > rest day. Start over. Workouts are longer, but you 'hit' each bodypart more often, whilst still allowing the muscles to recover.
11 May 2011, 05:20 PM
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People doing every exercise under the sun in the squat wrack, except squats. People who walk up and down the gym admiring themselves in the mirrors, spend 15 minutes 'swinging' some weights then go home.
11 May 2011, 05:29 PM
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I used to go and enjoyed it but got to a point and wondered what the point was, good to have some muscle, just dont go over the top as before you know it you will be walking round like you are carrying carpets, wearing muscle vests, head scarfs that look like Hulk Hogan, baggies and eating raw eggs.
Takes some serious dedication and I never made that bigger change but its kind of weird, in the gym you look dead puny compared to the monsters in there but out of the gym you look quite muscly and the monsters just look plain freaky.
Takes some serious dedication and I never made that bigger change but its kind of weird, in the gym you look dead puny compared to the monsters in there but out of the gym you look quite muscly and the monsters just look plain freaky.
11 May 2011, 07:36 PM
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Don't bother waste of money. Work hard, eat clean, eat right. Food is they key protein powders will give you no more than what meat/ eggs etc will give your body and it is natural.
11 May 2011, 11:01 PM
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11 May 2011, 11:19 PM
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Nothing like an invisible 'lights out' latspread, or the most muscular every time they finish a set.
I hear you on the recovery - at first I still slightly stiff, but now that I have been doing if for a while, I seem to recover quickly. Just have to make sure you never leave it too long between leg work outs, other wise you get DOMS lasting 5 days, and that is never any fun.
11 May 2011, 11:29 PM
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Not entirely true bud , there's lots of lads who train who don't mind giving someone a bit of advice
To just jump on a bodybuilding site and say hi I'm new , I'm 8.5 stone and want to be the biggest fooooka on my street........doesn't quite work
On a lot of bb sites you will get infested with the sharks selling you snide gear
To just jump on a bodybuilding site and say hi I'm new , I'm 8.5 stone and want to be the biggest fooooka on my street........doesn't quite work
On a lot of bb sites you will get infested with the sharks selling you snide gear
Hence the line about reading...a lot.
11 May 2011, 11:53 PM
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yeh i have already signed up to some body building forum they either just laugh at you or they dont give good advice . everyone has to start some where. to tell you the truth i have lots of better advice on scoobynet then a proper forum
17 June 2011, 02:42 PM
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If you are starting the gym, supplements are a waste of money. Diet is more important and more frequent meals to get the calories in. Natural food is cheaper than supplements. My body type is ectomorph (thin, lean, small bone structure) so putting muscle mass is quite difficult. I did it "hardcore" and just ate pasta and chicken or rice and egg white 6 times a day for 6 months and saw my fastest gain and gained just over stone while body fat went down, but that diet was tough going!
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31 December 2011, 05:04 PM
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http://www.bodyactive-online.co.uk/
name some gd products from here which i can use for whey protein please
name some gd products from here which i can use for whey protein please