Why r people so scared of the inside lane??
27 March 2001, 08:12 AM
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the inside lane is for lorries?
how come?
when im on a three lane motorway and there is a gap on the inside lane and the other two are clear u will see my car in the inside lane at flat out of 60 or whatever, i will use the closest to inside lane aslong as their is a gap and so on.
I think its because of people welding themselves to the middle lane even when they are going as slow as trucks etc that the brave people willing to do 70 then find themselves HAVING to go in the fast lane to overtake. Whereas if the slower people merged right into the inside lane they could be overtaken by speed limit runners at 70 using the middle lane, thus leaving the fast lane for FAST cars.
rw
how come?
when im on a three lane motorway and there is a gap on the inside lane and the other two are clear u will see my car in the inside lane at flat out of 60 or whatever, i will use the closest to inside lane aslong as their is a gap and so on.
I think its because of people welding themselves to the middle lane even when they are going as slow as trucks etc that the brave people willing to do 70 then find themselves HAVING to go in the fast lane to overtake. Whereas if the slower people merged right into the inside lane they could be overtaken by speed limit runners at 70 using the middle lane, thus leaving the fast lane for FAST cars.
rw
27 March 2001, 08:21 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Aero:
<B>People don't seem to realise either that the quietest tarmac is usually on the left hand lane (probably as none of them have tried it)....
I was driving in Italy the other week, it's simple, whoever is going fastest has right of way, and you make sure you get out of their way, no one gets upset and it works...
Their attitude to other drivers is far more accomodating. I looked to the right as I pulled onto a roundabout, then
i should have looked left. Stomped on the brakes, half way into the path of an oncoming van. There where no fists or tosser signs shaken, he just drove around the front of the car.
We are too territorial here, people see other motorists as a nuicance, and go to extreme lengths in order to 'beat them'. We need some serious education on these matters and quickly.[/quote]
Aero
I did 400 miles through Italy 18 months ago from Rimini to Venice. I have to totally agree with you. Over there you just fly along, and faster cars flash the slower ones. Slow cars move over and they carry on. That is the way they do it, and on my journey I didnt see one accident or traffic jam. Just everyone tonning-up on their way
I wasn't keen on the vans working in the fast lane though
. You just get a small sign saying something like "van, 50 yards". You round the bend and there is a bloody van stopped in the fast lane pruning the trees in the central concrete barrier You just have to swerve in straight away :0
<B>People don't seem to realise either that the quietest tarmac is usually on the left hand lane (probably as none of them have tried it)....
I was driving in Italy the other week, it's simple, whoever is going fastest has right of way, and you make sure you get out of their way, no one gets upset and it works...
Their attitude to other drivers is far more accomodating. I looked to the right as I pulled onto a roundabout, then
i should have looked left. Stomped on the brakes, half way into the path of an oncoming van. There where no fists or tosser signs shaken, he just drove around the front of the car.We are too territorial here, people see other motorists as a nuicance, and go to extreme lengths in order to 'beat them'. We need some serious education on these matters and quickly.[/quote]
Aero
I did 400 miles through Italy 18 months ago from Rimini to Venice. I have to totally agree with you. Over there you just fly along, and faster cars flash the slower ones. Slow cars move over and they carry on. That is the way they do it, and on my journey I didnt see one accident or traffic jam. Just everyone tonning-up on their way
I wasn't keen on the vans working in the fast lane though
. You just get a small sign saying something like "van, 50 yards". You round the bend and there is a bloody van stopped in the fast lane pruning the trees in the central concrete barrier You just have to swerve in straight away :0
27 March 2001, 08:30 AM
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Paul Habgood - the inside lane is for ALL traffic! Not just lorries - or were you just trying to wind people up... ??
HC rule 238 on lane discipline. I do think that some people have never read this book. If they had, and actually took notice of what it says driving would be so much simpler.... and more fun!
I don't know why some people have an aversion to lane 1!?? I was coming towards London on the M4 - around Bath way. 1am in the morning - bog all on the road so in lane 1 (the LEFT hand lane). car appears in the distance. Turns out it's in the middle lane. I think 'Why???'. Nothing else visible. i pull into lane two - think 'I really don't see whay I should move right out just 'cos this wassock can't follow the HC'. Quick flash - they move left - I overtake and pull back into the left lane. They then pull back into the middle lane... I felt like banging my head on the steering wheel.... I mean - why????????????????
Wilf - yeah, there are a few *bits* of motorway which are very rutted and my Scoob (215/17") follows them nicely. But there are only a few bits like that - like the M4 East near J8/9. The rest of the time lane 1 is fine......
Dave
HC rule 238 on lane discipline. I do think that some people have never read this book. If they had, and actually took notice of what it says driving would be so much simpler.... and more fun!
I don't know why some people have an aversion to lane 1!?? I was coming towards London on the M4 - around Bath way. 1am in the morning - bog all on the road so in lane 1 (the LEFT hand lane). car appears in the distance. Turns out it's in the middle lane. I think 'Why???'. Nothing else visible. i pull into lane two - think 'I really don't see whay I should move right out just 'cos this wassock can't follow the HC'. Quick flash - they move left - I overtake and pull back into the left lane. They then pull back into the middle lane... I felt like banging my head on the steering wheel.... I mean - why????????????????
Wilf - yeah, there are a few *bits* of motorway which are very rutted and my Scoob (215/17") follows them nicely. But there are only a few bits like that - like the M4 East near J8/9. The rest of the time lane 1 is fine......
Dave
27 March 2001, 09:06 AM
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This drives me crazy. People cannot be bothered to move from the middle lane; even if the inside lane and the middle lane have nothing ahead for miles. My other bug bear is when people dont bother to indicate, on motorways, at junctions and at roundabouts. Lazy and sloppy driving.
27 March 2001, 09:04 PM
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Guys...in good old Deutschland they just leave their outside indicator on if there's a lane-hogger and people move over. The autobahn's speed unlimited areas make it very necessary that the slower traffic has good lane discipline. The closing speed is amazing!
If we want civilised rapid motor transport in this country, we just have to learn lane discipline. Any ideas how white van man and mondeo man can be educated in this respect?
I think the speed limit should be raised on motorways for cars over a certain power which are demonstrably safer intrinsically anyway..let's say to 95mph, and lesser vehicles restricted to 70mph and white vans and trucks to 60mph. That will also have the benefit of encouraging freight to move by rail instead of road. Perhaps the speed limit needs to be flashed overhead by big brother for what is acceptable by traffic volume, and so when its clear we can all whizz along?
Cheers,
Rich :d
If we want civilised rapid motor transport in this country, we just have to learn lane discipline. Any ideas how white van man and mondeo man can be educated in this respect?
I think the speed limit should be raised on motorways for cars over a certain power which are demonstrably safer intrinsically anyway..let's say to 95mph, and lesser vehicles restricted to 70mph and white vans and trucks to 60mph. That will also have the benefit of encouraging freight to move by rail instead of road. Perhaps the speed limit needs to be flashed overhead by big brother for what is acceptable by traffic volume, and so when its clear we can all whizz along?
Cheers,
Rich :d
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