Choosing between a Classic or Newage
27 May 2011, 12:59 PM
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Remember you don't need big power to make a fantastic drive.
A classic with decent brakes and suspension setup running circa 320 would make a wonderfully involving drive. I quite often turn my boost right down when taking on the tight and twisties.
A classic with decent brakes and suspension setup running circa 320 would make a wonderfully involving drive. I quite often turn my boost right down when taking on the tight and twisties.
I feel the same way lol
27 May 2011, 04:23 PM
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I went through a similar dilemma about 10 months ago now.
Finally settled on my JDM MY99 - V4. Sti.
Pretty standard, apart from a de cat and a set of tein coilovers already fitted when I bought it.
Passed its mot with not a single fault in April, and the only thing I have done to it is some rear poly bushes, new grooved and drilled discs alround, pads and braided brake hoses. Plus a good service with cooler plugs, k&n filter etc etc. Set of 18s on toyo's and bobs your uncle. Cost less than £3 grand and it has now covered a grand total of 68K
Firstly, it has caused me not a bit of bother, secondly, its the best fun I have ever had in a car and I have owed a few. I dont have deep pockets to extensively mod, but its very very addictive.
I havent owned a newage and previous comments are far more qualified than mine, but I know that I made the right choice for me.
Its amazing. Its Loud, and you can throw it anywhere. Buy one immediately !!!
Finally settled on my JDM MY99 - V4. Sti.
Pretty standard, apart from a de cat and a set of tein coilovers already fitted when I bought it.
Passed its mot with not a single fault in April, and the only thing I have done to it is some rear poly bushes, new grooved and drilled discs alround, pads and braided brake hoses. Plus a good service with cooler plugs, k&n filter etc etc. Set of 18s on toyo's and bobs your uncle. Cost less than £3 grand and it has now covered a grand total of 68K
Firstly, it has caused me not a bit of bother, secondly, its the best fun I have ever had in a car and I have owed a few. I dont have deep pockets to extensively mod, but its very very addictive.
I havent owned a newage and previous comments are far more qualified than mine, but I know that I made the right choice for me.
Its amazing. Its Loud, and you can throw it anywhere. Buy one immediately !!!
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27 May 2011, 05:00 PM
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Mate brought a classic down to my house, he took me out in it and the engine blew. I think a lot of imports have been run on 95-99 for years when its ecu wants 102.
27 May 2011, 08:32 PM
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[QUOTE=D__I__A__B__L__O;, choices will probably between a MY05 WRX or the newest classic
I like the look of the classics more
Thanks in advance for any thoughts, ideas and help[/QUOTE]
To all the newage sti lovers andd voters, please read the op post. He is looking at a newage wrx not an sti
Please stop telling him to go newage unless he either is willing to get a bugeye sti as he will not have the budget for a 05 sti unless he is willing to wait. If not you can seriuosly not tell him to buy a a wrx over a classic sti type r as its a better car....really a newage wrx is a better weekend / track car.....come on a lower powered heavier car......your all mad, mad I tell you.
To the OP please read my other post regarding the pros and cons which I have tried to explain.
I like the look of the classics more
Thanks in advance for any thoughts, ideas and help[/QUOTE]
To all the newage sti lovers andd voters, please read the op post. He is looking at a newage wrx not an sti
Please stop telling him to go newage unless he either is willing to get a bugeye sti as he will not have the budget for a 05 sti unless he is willing to wait. If not you can seriuosly not tell him to buy a a wrx over a classic sti type r as its a better car....really a newage wrx is a better weekend / track car.....come on a lower powered heavier car......your all mad, mad I tell you.
To the OP please read my other post regarding the pros and cons which I have tried to explain.
27 May 2011, 10:16 PM
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Spend 3 months under her getting things right then open your garage door on a sunny sunday morning to a late fully sorted classic - one of the most purposefull looking cars ever .
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28 May 2011, 11:18 AM
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Haahhahaha, that is quite pedantic indeed, however I will let you off considering the bounce-age of your substantial and amply formed breast avatar.
It is definately a version 4, but wasnt registered until well into 99, so I would think that it was forgotten behind a japanase factory shed longing to be driven for quite a wee while, while a kindly old japanese man lovinging polished it and added refinements and listened for changes to its engine note myagi style.
So in other words im in denial that it wasnt just old stock lying around for 6 months until they got around to selling/registering it.
Hope this answers your self confessed pedantic question in a suitable fashion.
28 May 2011, 02:24 PM
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To all the newage sti lovers andd voters, please read the op post. He is looking at a newage wrx not an sti
Please stop telling him to go newage unless he either is willing to get a bugeye sti as he will not have the budget for a 05 sti unless he is willing to wait. If not you can seriuosly not tell him to buy a a wrx over a classic sti type r as its a better car....really a newage wrx is a better weekend / track car.....come on a lower powered heavier car......your all mad, mad I tell you.
To the OP please read my other post regarding the pros and cons which I have tried to explain.
Please stop telling him to go newage unless he either is willing to get a bugeye sti as he will not have the budget for a 05 sti unless he is willing to wait. If not you can seriuosly not tell him to buy a a wrx over a classic sti type r as its a better car....really a newage wrx is a better weekend / track car.....come on a lower powered heavier car......your all mad, mad I tell you.
To the OP please read my other post regarding the pros and cons which I have tried to explain.
I bought a jdm bug sti after having a turbo 2000 classic, I like the bug alot, and do find it better than the classic (was the lowest one though), I always thought the bug's were ugly, but after driving it, I knew I had made the right choice.
I dont think the op would unhappy with a bug sti. But sti though, not wrx.
28 May 2011, 03:16 PM
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They do indeed have letters in the Applied model code to describe the appropriate MY, for sure.... But to imply that it's incorrect to say/write the "MYxx" instead, is wrong in itself. It's an industry standard terminology.
The 22B is based on a Type R STi Version IV - so is a MY98 car. Where'd you get "MY22B" from?! That's gobbledygook lol.
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28 May 2011, 03:18 PM
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i cannot compare a standard classic and newage because i've only had an MY05 STI and my current P1.
out of the box the P1 is a far better ride, a lot less like a tractor. feels more sporty, you're in the car and not on it.
ran my newage at 334bhp and it was fast but i didn't like the way it handled, would have needed coilovers and not a cheap set. car was comfortable day to day but it used a lot of fuel, someone commented that classic uses more but it doesn't. well technically it does because a classic has a better feel and makes you want to drive it properly which obviously burns more fuel.
classic P1 hasn't been mapped properly yet so i cannot compare true power although it feels as quick currently. suspension setup seems much better. gearbox and internal supposed to be some what stronger than a standard classic. will be running 360bhp once it is mapped, have a VF34 so it'll be an amazing fast road/weekend car.
out of the box the P1 is a far better ride, a lot less like a tractor. feels more sporty, you're in the car and not on it.
ran my newage at 334bhp and it was fast but i didn't like the way it handled, would have needed coilovers and not a cheap set. car was comfortable day to day but it used a lot of fuel, someone commented that classic uses more but it doesn't. well technically it does because a classic has a better feel and makes you want to drive it properly which obviously burns more fuel.
classic P1 hasn't been mapped properly yet so i cannot compare true power although it feels as quick currently. suspension setup seems much better. gearbox and internal supposed to be some what stronger than a standard classic. will be running 360bhp once it is mapped, have a VF34 so it'll be an amazing fast road/weekend car.
28 May 2011, 04:14 PM
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You can still refer to "MYxx" for the cars. ALL manufacturers use the terminology to describe any given 12-monthly Model Year (MY) run.
They do indeed have letters in the Applied model code to describe the appropriate MY, for sure.... But to imply that it's incorrect to say/write the "MYxx" instead, is wrong in itself. It's an industry standard terminology.
The 22B is based on a Type R STi Version IV - so is a MY98 car. Where'd you get "MY22B" from?! That's gobbledygook lol.
They do indeed have letters in the Applied model code to describe the appropriate MY, for sure.... But to imply that it's incorrect to say/write the "MYxx" instead, is wrong in itself. It's an industry standard terminology.
The 22B is based on a Type R STi Version IV - so is a MY98 car. Where'd you get "MY22B" from?! That's gobbledygook lol.
As i said, Subaru gave their Jap cars letters not numbers. MY A, MY B, MY C1, MY C2, MY D, MY E, MY 22B, MY F, MY G.
In this country they did indeed use numbers and the 22B was a MY98 but not in Japan.
The OP owns a Jap import, so to be correct it should be called a MY E series car.
28 May 2011, 06:03 PM
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Yes I KNOW they gave them letters (hell, I've mentioned them in countless posts throughout my time on this board).... BUT... it's NOT WRONG to also refer to the different models by their respective MY96, 97, 98, or whatever, as you seem hellbent on saying.
It's not referred to as "MY E" -- it's "MY98" or "E" series. You won't see it written in Subaru literature as "MY E". I've certainly never seen it officially written in this way - the E is part of the 7-digit Applied Model code; it's not intended to be written on its own or with "MY" in front of it.
BTW, the rest of the world's markets for Subarus also use the A,B,C, etc... Model Year identification system in their Applied Model codes, too -- it's not just reserved for JDM cars.
It's not referred to as "MY E" -- it's "MY98" or "E" series. You won't see it written in Subaru literature as "MY E". I've certainly never seen it officially written in this way - the E is part of the 7-digit Applied Model code; it's not intended to be written on its own or with "MY" in front of it.
BTW, the rest of the world's markets for Subarus also use the A,B,C, etc... Model Year identification system in their Applied Model codes, too -- it's not just reserved for JDM cars.
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29 May 2011, 09:00 AM
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Yes I KNOW they gave them letters (hell, I've mentioned them in countless posts throughout my time on this board).... BUT... it's NOT WRONG to also refer to the different models by their respective MY96, 97, 98, or whatever, as you seem hellbent on saying.
It's not referred to as "MY E" -- it's "MY98" or "E" series. You won't see it written in Subaru literature as "MY E". I've certainly never seen it officially written in this way - the E is part of the 7-digit Applied Model code; it's not intended to be written on its own or with "MY" in front of it.
BTW, the rest of the world's markets for Subarus also use the A,B,C, etc... Model Year identification system in their Applied Model codes, too -- it's not just reserved for JDM cars.
It's not referred to as "MY E" -- it's "MY98" or "E" series. You won't see it written in Subaru literature as "MY E". I've certainly never seen it officially written in this way - the E is part of the 7-digit Applied Model code; it's not intended to be written on its own or with "MY" in front of it.
BTW, the rest of the world's markets for Subarus also use the A,B,C, etc... Model Year identification system in their Applied Model codes, too -- it's not just reserved for JDM cars.
No one refers to model years using letters.
29 May 2011, 09:40 AM
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FFS, I appreciate that nobody refers to these cars by the model letter and that everybody accepts the use of model year being used, that's not my point, my point is that it's not absolutely correct to use model year over letter. To be 100% accurate when describing your car then model series letter should be used as they would in Japan.
Weather you accept that or not I don't really give a **** but I am correct.
Weather you accept that or not I don't really give a **** but I am correct.
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