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Old 14 June 2011, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
I totally disagree with your statement of a dog being more agressive on the lead - mine anyway. - Anyone and I mean anyone can remove the meat from my dogs mouth and he just looks at you as if to say 'what have I done am I not allowde it?" - The most harmless dog in world Garenteed !

We have used a dog trainer and our dogs only ever bark BACK - after being barked at.

Like above If I let them off they smell the scent and they are gone. Yeah they come back but with the roads it's not worth it. We do let them off the lead to play with other dogs in an enclosed feild.
sorry just saw this post.

I did not say that your dog was aggressive on the lead, some are some are not, one of mine is the other not.

But if you read what i wrote it clearly states one or the other.

And it's true regardless of wether it's your dog or the other, as i stated before it's because they are not able to establish dominance/submission and can also be related to the actions of the owner.

ie. fear of confrontation / body language tension.

Both dogs involved in this situation will see and sense it.

Fact.

And it's great that you let them off the lead.

was not having a dig at you just trying to help if you had a problem

I really don't like to see dogs kept on a lead and not being able to run free because the owner has no idea how to train the dog or even worse is too lazy.

And it's usually the one's who claim to love their dog.

Rant over.
Old 14 June 2011, 11:30 PM
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ditchmyster who told you dogs believe in dominance?
Old 15 June 2011, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
dogs find body language and hand signals easier than verbal commands
I've found that with my GSD. I can screech, sit, flat etc and he does it, eventually. But if I point my finger then point to the floor he goes flat, straight away.
Old 15 June 2011, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
dogs find body language and hand signals easier than verbal commands

dogs on leads if scared dont have the option to run away hence they have to choose fight

Beagles like most hound breeds are harder to train to come back on command evertime so best to play safe where roads are and keep them on the lead
You too need one of those "special" collars
Old 15 June 2011, 12:50 PM
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My Springer has the attention span of a goldfish, the only way to keep her under control is to constantly talk to her, otherwise, after about 30sec she forgets what the last instruction was and wanders off

Unless, of course, the last command was 'Find it', she'll carry that one on for ages

Like ditchy, I tend to find a barked 'Oi!' grabs her attention when necessary


With regard to the original topic, what you feed them makes a huge difference to the consistency and potency of their turds, complete meal biscuits are the best, tinned food smells bad before it has been eaten, 12 hours in a dogs intestines isn't going to improve things


Originally Posted by urban
Or one of these, which would require hardly any time or effort
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003VXVEU...SIN=B003VXVEUS
I wanted one of those, but the wife wouldn't let me Apparently children can be trained without them
Old 15 June 2011, 10:49 PM
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Lol Urban if you think that was a radical statement about dogs then you better get the janet and john guide book to dog training
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
ditchmyster who told you dogs believe in dominance?
I think those are your words not mine.

Time for a re-read me thinks.
Old 16 June 2011, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee247
I've found that with my GSD. I can screech, sit, flat etc and he does it, eventually. But if I point my finger then point to the floor he goes flat, straight away.
Try a slight change of tone and don't elongate the sound,make it more of a deeper growl than a long screech, if you know what i mean.

You just need to be more assertive.

like you would be with a bloke who kept making unwanted advances.

ps no stilletoes though..
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Try a slight change of tone and don't elongate the sound,make it more of a deeper growl than a long screech, if you know what i mean.

You just need to be more assertive.

like you would be with a bloke who kept making unwanted advances.

ps no stilletoes though..

I'm a soft touch and he flipping well knows it.
Old 18 June 2011, 05:29 PM
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Lee247 it isnt being assertive its being consistant so when you set a boundary you just maintain it, also you want to try and find the positive so for example the dog jumps up dont tell it off instead train it to do what you want and reward that for example teach a sit and shake paw or teach a down and then you can reward the good things and at the same time eliminate the bad things with out having to be negative

There are some excellant books by Karen Pryor or Jean Donaldson

Ditchmyster i saw you had written

"And it's true regardless of wether it's your dog or the other, as i stated before it's because they are not able to establish dominance/submission and can also be related to the actions of the owner."

hence the question about Dominance, but excellant if you dont believe dogs are into pack leader and dominance theory and that going through a door 1st proves the pack leader rubbish
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hence the question about Dominance, but excellant if you dont believe dogs are into pack leader and dominance theory and that going through a door 1st proves the pack leader rubbish[/QUOTE]

I believe there are higher ranking animals in the pack.

Alpha males and females and an enforcer that are above others if you want to split hairs about terminology each animal performs different tasks within the pack, which is an ever changing situation.

But who goes first is neither here nor there in my pack, depends what we are doing and where we are.

Im after an enforcer next any recommendations.
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