JTaylor

What a ******* stupid thing to say.

The Zohan

This is very true - whilst the drugs you are on may not be right for you there will be a drug or several that work for you and are right for you. Do not **** about if you have mental issues, you may not be thinking clearly or have great, even perfect judgement even though you think you do.

I speak from bitter experience of a close family member with bi polar

Lee247

Right, I can reply properly now. Getting to work prevented me, before
I am not a big fan of drugs, and my comment was not intended to be flippant in any way.
I work with a lady who suffered from terrible depression. She was put on tablets and to me, they only seemed to mask the problem.
We all went out of our way, to help her. Going out and all that jazz. Might seem simple, but she has gradually weaned herself of these drugs, obviously with the help of her Doctor. It has took a long time, I cannot deny that.
She is now in a much better place. Drug free. She does still get the odd bout of depression, but nothing she can't handle.
Hope that helps.

ScooByer Trade

I will phone the doc today.There are many things that cause it you know & people are different.

The Zohan

Good move, make sure you explain just how the drugs are making you feel and get your GP to talk you though what he/she plans to do and what they are putting you on and what are the potential side effects.

Good luck!

Fat Boy

CBT and exercise would get my vote - family history so some personal experience.

I would stay on the drugs for now but start doing the other stuff until you feel you can drop the drugs.

Good luck

JTaylor

Well done. See Paul's (The Zohan's ) advice above. I'm absolutely not saying that drugs are the answer, they're not, but they need to be managed and used in conjunction with therapies and positive relationships and exersise and a good diet and so forth. Like Paul, I've had first hand experience of people not managing their illness properly so think the best people to help are the health professionals - so long as you're honest with them and follow their advice they'll get you on an even keel so that you're in a position to tackle the situational stuff.

Anyway, how's the muff-hunting going?

The Zohan

Ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Its SUPPOSED to be a secret!

ScooByer Trade

Need to try harder there James me thinks.

JTaylor

The bloke needs practical help, not some ridiculous, obscure observation of the social condition. Totally irresponsible. I get the principle, but now ain't the time.

The Zohan

+1

Tony, you do not have to act like a d1ck all of the time, it is not compulsory

JTaylor

ScooByer Trade

What happens when you have cbt fellas, i don't know.

JTaylor

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogni...vioral_therapy

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Cogn...rapy-(CBT).htm

ScooByer Trade

Basically all i've done so far, is talk about most of my past history.Whilst taking abilify.Not written much down.My nutrition could be improved too.

The Zohan

Look to diet, also intake of alcohol, recreational drugs, smoking none of these really help. ask your doc for any literature they may have or you can get a hold of + any websites/on-line support groups. It is not a sign of weakness to ask for help it is an acknowledgement you have problem and want to deal with it

JTaylor

Defo. Nothing like a good **** to cheer you up! Good exercise, too. Apparently.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Hey where in croatia, i'm there, i mean here

tony de wonderful

To be fair depression isn't being miserable per se nor do you 'get it' (if you could describe it in those terms) from not eating enough carbs FFS.

ScooByer Trade

I've just taken two tablets = 20mg.

JTaylor

I know.

JTaylor

Is that what the quack advised?

ScooByer Trade

I haven't phoned her yet.

JTaylor

This is what bothers me. You're taking meds, then stopping them and then starting them again. You really need to get a plan together, here. You've asked for advice, most posters have suggested that you seek the advice of your health professional and instead you've just necked a couple of pills without being advised, by someone who's qualified, to do so. The internet, particularly Snet, isn't the place to get advice; I regret pitching in with my thoughts. Your health professional will have your med. records, your history and face to face will be able to make a more accurate assessment of how you present. Please, please contact your surgery, explain what you explained to us, get a plan together and stick to it. If you feel things aren't progressing as you'd like, discuss this with the health professional before making independent decisions. People on here will support but, without all the facts, we aren't sufficiently informed to help you get well for the long-term.

Is there anybody that you're close to, and that you trust, who can go to the surgery with you? And what's your name?

The Zohan

Surgery phone lines tend to open at 8am, suggest you pull your finger out and call

I agree wholly with David's comments posted above!

Leslie

It is a very difficult situation and I am sorry you have this problem which must seem insuperable at times.

I can't say anything one way or the other about the drugs etc., but I should certainly let your doctor know the whole story with nothing held back.

Maybe if you found an activity which you can be really taken with and which takes up a lot of time and effort and which you really enjoy doing, you might find that you have not got any time left to dwell on your present feelings, and you will generate the mental attitude and strength to push them out of your life.

Les

ScooByer Trade

I could go with my dad to the doc but he's out at the mo.My name is Nathan Weston - Edwards.

JTaylor

Hello, Nathan. If you get on well with your dad and you think and feel that you can trust him, it may be good to have his support. Again, this is absolutely dependent on what type of relationship you have with him, even if he just goes down to the surgery with you and waits outside. There may be personal stuff that you don't want share with him and I'm sure he'll understand that. How do you get on with the doctor? Do you think or feel that they understand your challenges? Are you being listened to?

tony de wonderful

Why is it irresponsible?

I'm fairly suspicious of the health care profession when it comes to mental health. If you see a psychiatrist they are going to prescribe meds...it's what they do....to a man with a hammer everything is a nail as they say. No discipline has a more dubious past than psychiatry also.

IMHO you would be better off seeing a Priest than that.

Personally I prefer the general Therapy approach. Have you read any books by Irwin D Yalom, there is miles more wisdom in Jung and Freud than you will find at your GP or psychiatrist.

JTaylor

What if the waiting list is 6 months long and in the mean-time you've topped yourself?