tony de wonderful

You could equally well get yourself sectioned, but that is a whole other kettle of fish.

JTaylor

That wasn't what I asked. You're talking about Jung et. al. and not taking meds and not seeing your GP and I'm of the view that if somebody vulnerable took your advice they would have a much greater chance of harming themselves in the short-term. You're confusing crises management of an individual with long-term, grandiose answers for the human condition. Well, this thread's about Nathan, so save it for another day.

I've read Brave New World, too.

tony de wonderful

There is no quick fix to these problems.

Like I said get sectioned if In extremis, you surely require more than a prescription for prozac anyway?

Just my opinion of course.

mrs_b4

Tony I wonder have you ever suffered from a mental illness? I work with mentally ill people and trust me the stuff you're coming out with is a load of ole ****e, there are people who have other conditions alongside being mentally ill so all these other therapies aren't going to work,when you see someone literally pulling their hair out slapping themselves etc,it is not always a time to sit and chat!.I accept Nathan's situation is different but it is what works for the individual.

Torquemada

Hi mate, I'm in a somewhat similar position where I've been depressed, stressed from work (although performing well) and stressed with stuff at home. All of this together has been too much for me and the other week I was rushed to hospital with a suspected stroke (ambulance called by the police as I was in public). Turns out that it was in fact a massive anxiety attack that caused me to go into facial paralysis as well as my arms also clawing up and becoming kind of paralysed as well.

It was really scarey, I thought I was dying and, because I don't get ill often, I didn't know what was happening.

So, I've been told to get off the coffee and eat properly and suchlike and that counselling would be very benificial. The problem is, I've been placed on a waiting list that could take 6 months, a year, or more and the doctor has slapped some tablets in my hand ion the meantime.

I'm not a fan of taking pills for things and this worried me (like I needed more worry) so, 20mg of Citalopram and 5mg of Prochloroperazine was taken for a few days but I felt like I was going batsh1t crazy, couldn't sleep, felt more anxious, still felt extreme rage at things but in a scarily calm way (the prochloroperazine was supposed to stop that), I was also hallucinating and this made driving the worst idea. Plus, I've felt drowsy and a little zombified.

So, I spoke with the doctor again and she has kept me on the prochloroperazine but has moved me onto Escitalopram at 5mg.
I'm back at work after a week off and thought that my body had become acustomed to the side affects but being back at work I now feel like a zombie again and all the other side effects have come back apart from the visual hallucinations, only a few weird pinging noises going on of the auditory hallucinatory stylee, great. (seeing a random guy riding a penny farthing whilst wearing a safari hat this morning did put me in a moment of doubt this morning though!)

My thoughts have been to just stop taking the pills but I know that this would possibly be a mistake and would prefer to let the pro's direct me as to the best steps.

One thing I do know is that alcohol is the worst thing to intake whilst medicated, I've been on some other medication a few years back that I drank whilst taking and ended up on a charge for attempted murder amongst other things (dropped thankfully). I'm not a wrongun so this was was quite out of character and just shows what can happen.

Anyway, I'll be off to the docs this week and I would suggest you do the same, speaking with someone will always help, rather than bottling up your worries and taking drastic actions.

As mentioned, excercise can really help with upping mood and certainly eating healthily can have drastic beneficial effects (I eat very poorly and live off of nothing at present unfortunately).

I hope things go well for you and that you come out the other side of this in a positive way, and I really mean that. Do feel free to pm me if you want to chat privately about your experiences, but I will be offline til after work if you don't get a quick response.

All the best and sorry for War and Peace above,

Tom

Precisely!

Lee247

What a fantastic post. So helpful

Funkii Munkii

Indeed
Unlike many others, the OP is clearly suffering and some of the responses have been repugnant, TDW you should shut up once in a while.

Nathan, best of luck to you, as suggested above the Doc is the only way forward.

p.s.great name, we named our 7 month old son Nathan

Fat Boy

Basically via one to one talk sessions where they teach you ways to avoid getting into the depressive cycle - methods to adopt when you recognize you're beginning a down that help you avoid going into it.

I'm probably the least airy fairy new age magic pebbles type you could imagine, but CBT works. Experience via my dad who had clinical depression, my other half who has MS, and my mate who was one of the Big Wigs at the Maudsley Kings College and who gave CBT (he's retired now).

Exercise really is one of the best things though - join a class that you have to turn up to with some interesting people in and you'll soon feel the sap rising again ( particularly if there are fitties involved )

PS just put TDW on ignore - he's woefully uninformed about most subjects

tony de wonderful

I just mentioned by feelings about drugs and nothing you mentioned above advised to take them.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

With the greatest respect i think you should back off now..

SiPie

+1

(but without the respect)

JTaylor

Top post, Tom.

ScooByer Trade

Thanks fellas, phoned the doc today but she was busy.

fast bloke

You need to make a decision. You can either avoid 'medical' help, or go for it wholeheartedly. You don't know how the drugs work, so jumping on and off them is only going to cause extremes of chemical imbalance in your brain, which is going to exacerbate your troubles.

I personally don't understand why people continue to be depressed. If I am down about something.... (Sometimes I wake up in the morning and think "Bollox - I can't take another day of this ****. Everything is just a disaster waiting to make my life more miserable.")..... I slap myself about the face and work out how to fix it. Sometimes it can take a few days for me to realise, sometimes a month, but eventually I remember that this is my life and I am in control. I can live life as the cloud or the silver lining.

Either way - don't self dose on your medication. What these drugs do to your brain is complex. It isn't like taking a painkiller. If you tell the receptionist at your GP surgery that you absolutely must speak to her about your mental illness TODAY, I don't think that there would be a GP in the country that would be 'busy.'

Boosty

Your on meds for a reason, to level out your seritonin levels in your brain. It takes a while to work with all types but you have to stick with it. With everything there are side effects. Your doc will consider another type of meds, don't go cold turkey you need to taper gradually or else you will shock your system. I am on venlafaxine. 300 mg per day, took 3 different types for me to find the ones that made me a little more stable. Seriously, don't do anything without consulting a doctor, get a second opinion if you have too, but don't self diagnose everything from google!!

StickyMicky

ASW.

richiewong

Approved Social Worker

It's AMHP nowadays.

Aripiprazole is a mainly used as an anti-psychotic, don't know when it became licensed as an anti-depressant.

Torquemada

Thanks very much

Nathan, keep on at the docs, mine can be a nightmare to get an appointment with but I can usually get her to at least give me a call back or set an emergency appointment if I push for it. I hope the doc comes good and helps you out mate.

All the best,

Tom

ScooByer Trade

The doc said carry on taking the tablets.I need to talk to share experiences.

Ellie*

I take Abilify (along with venlafaxine and mirtazapine, both anti-depressants)
Its an anti-psychotic, not an anti-depressant. If used WITH anti-depressant drugs it can boost the effectiveness.

You wont notice amazing overnight changes. But they will be there. You'll find this out when u stop taking them and its too late.
Do not stop suddenly.
I stopped them due to anxiety and restlessness and it sent me manic. All i had to do was start on a lower dose and give my body chance to adjust to it then work up the dosage again to a therapuetic level.

I probably wouldnt be alive without this drug. Its the only thing that shifted suicidal thoughts.

ScooByer Trade

They didn't give me anti-depressants with Abilify.

Lee247

Speak to Tom and your Quack. Tom, is the only person who has spoken with frankness, experience and honestly. If you want advice from here, he is your man.
Good luck and all the best
I could only comment from what I have seen, which is not the same nor as good.

ScooByer Trade

I'm feeling blue now.I shouldn't have stopped the meds.

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

I'll be there in two weeks.

ScooByer Trade

I'm sorry to hear the news fast bloke, however you know nothing about my life.I hope he gets better mate.

ScooByer Trade

RE; Croatia, i stay on the Paljesic Penninsula.Don't want to go there this/next year ( 3 months holiday for christ sake ) until i'm sorted.

ScooByer Trade

I think i need this CBT that you guys are talking about.

Fat Boy

Definitely worth a try my friend.

ScooByer Trade

I won't be able to see the quack until after the holiday.After that i will see her.

ScooByer Trade

Here is a good site that was recommended to me.Anyone know of the Early Intervention Team ???.They help me out.

http://www.youngminds.org.uk/