Thats more like it, like i said i'll be in touch.

Don't worry i'm smart too, i know where to get the bits done that i can't do.

Apparently there is this smart **** old bloke on snet.

 

They're tough buggers the bugeye engines. A lad I know has an 02 Bug with 120k on it. It gets absolutely hammered including drag days and is still going strong. Personally I'd rather have an engine go bang that I had 'ragged' than one I'd mollycoddled.
The wait will be worth it.

 

do you need 500?

its a reliable 450 at which point you start to get traction issues anyway on normal roads.

 

I don't need it no, but i kind of figured if i'm going to do it i may as well have a target and 500 is a nice round number and there are loads of people running 450 so i thought i would be a little bit different,as is in my nature to be so.

And 5 is the new 4 lol

Oh and i find traction issues sexy.

 

I'd like a passenger ride in a 500 bhp classic

But after a 650 bhp Blobeye , I'm hardened to being "impressed"

A nice steady 488 bhp will do me

dunx

 

very interesting Mr Ditch, does that mean AP 6 pots and i can have my discs and pads back? lol i can almost play a tune on these bloody mintex (youtube here i come) you've got me all excited, oooh oooh ooooh, blimey! (fake northern orgasm)

 

[QUOTE=oobyJu;10110446]very interesting Mr Ditch, does that mean AP 6 pots and i can have my discs and pads back? lol i can almost play a tune on these bloody mintex (youtube here i come) you've got me all excited, oooh oooh ooooh, blimey! (fake northern orgasm)[/QUOT

Got to get it back to England first mate, iv'e got some discs in the garage you can have.lol

Sorry going to spend the cash, but i'll give you a free ride in it when it's done.

Wear brown trousers

 

Hats off to anyone who has the time, knowledge and diligence to assemble a high powered build themselves. You'd have to be soooo careful though, as if you get something wrong, like a clearance somewhere, you're going to wreck some nice expensive parts and be well out of pocket.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: there is a big difference price wise between a short engine that can take a certain bhp and a complete set up that will produce that bhp. The right turbos these days are £1400 alone.

From experience, at that level, you MUST have the right supporting mods too i.e. brakes and suspension, otherwise you end up with something that is fast in a straight line, but won't stop or go around corners properly, which is what these cars are about!

Ns04

 

I totally agree, and thats why i posted this thread and others.

I have the luxury of time so i'm in no rush and want to make sure everything is right this time, which is why i'm doing it myself.

I have a mate who is like a mad scientist,and i think he has a photographic memory so the details i forget he will be on hand to remember.

init, julian

 

My whole rotated setup inc turbo and ewg cost £1600

 

My 2p worth.
I believe that a high power (>500) engine based on a 2 litre block will be more reliable long term than equivalent power based on a 2.5 block. So if you have a choice start with a 2 litre cdb.
There is so much history/experience with 2 litre based builds, I'd go that route - 2.1 stroker or 2.33.

Whatever the price for your project, add a good 33% minimum to get to the actual cost - extras suddenly seem a good idea !

 

Yep thats what i think too so iv'e just sourced one, and it hopfully be in my possesion shortly if my mate in england gets back to me soon. lol

Are you reading this julian.

Oh and krissy

 

David Vizard's how to tune an A series engine bible was not even in colour when you were pictured! haha. (You have Duncan to thank for pointing that one out)!

 

Sounds like my car there Maz lol, just to add , its also got a burnt exhaust valve confirmed by two leak down tests that show cylinder one is leaking at over 90%.

Eddy

P.s. OP if your anything like me just do it once and do it right.. i could easily go stock location 500bhp route but i know that ill only say .. if only i went rotated etc,... so if that sounds like you, just go the whole hog.. then you wont be dissapointed or thinking only if..

 

Thats the plan, just doing my research and getting everything i need together.

Cheers

 

Hi there

i went same route as you(500bhp),in my case my engine have damaged valve seat,and we have two options OE Forged Rebuild or 2.1 stroker,we are went for 2.1 stroker(wish i have extra money,i would go for 2.35)


Jura

 

Whats the difference in cost and does it involve liners.

 

Hows the quality of the fuel in Croatia ? That is going to be a significant issue on ANY high powered Scoob engine.

We do high power 2.1's as well, we just don't make so much fuss about it. AND any properly built engine, will have been together about 4 or 5 times by the time we actually build it. No other way..................

" Building " an engine and putting together a pile of parts are not the same thing.

David APi

 

Got your number, thinking about gearbox options.


What are your thoughts.

Oh and where you bin i woz waitin innit. lol, fuel is good i can get 100 ron.

 

I was in bleedin' Dubrovnik last Thursday, Called out your name, but you didn't answer, I even went up the cable car to get a better view, you must be really small........

D

 

Hence my assertion that I was tuning cars when he was in short pants!

 

I'm about 350/400 miles north so you need to shout a bit louder next time, and i think your going to need google earth to see me, i'm the one standing next to the scoob with a knackerd big end. again.

might come back thursday see if i can organise picking up a cdb, and we will speak then.

 

well im going for 550 on a 2.1

expensive -yes, but i wanted a well built engine with quality parts,

no point it going bang after 3 runs.

and most importantly built by people who have experince building this kind of engine - thats the most important bit to me.

makes shelling out a lot of money a touch easier when you have complete faith in the people doing the work.

cant fookin wait to get mine lol

how much fun is this going to be in a classic

and im seriously considering stripping the car, to get the power to weight up a bit more

see what happens lol

 

AS I have found out so far 500bhp and reliable (well as reliable as a 500bhp car can be) is very expensive. Im going 2.35 with front mounted GT30R billet and 20% methanol. Also aiming for sub 1100kg. Should be a hoot.
My budget started at £10k but it looks like it will end of being more like £20k. That is with the best of everything and me doing everything apart from the grp N cage, engine and gearbox builds.

 

Bloody hell is it gold plated

 

No thats how much it cost fella, to do it right

 

That is everything done 110% which to me is the only way while it is apart.
It could probably be done for half of that cost but I will bet it will break and show its weeknesses pretty quickly

 

2.35 is a luxury not a necessity

 

Thank god, at least one voice of reason.

Well iv'e got to wait until i split the engine to see how bad it is then if there is a quick fix i think i'll do it and get it on the road again.

In the mean time iv'e sourced a cdb and i shall be taking the 2.1 stroker route with that block, using the heads off the original engine and i still have not decided if i'm going rotated or not, if i can source the parts for the right money i will.

So i shall be taking my time and collecting all the parts over the coming months with a view to having it up and running this time next year so watch this space.

Thanks for all the replies guys.

 

I got various quotes for 450 starting at about 10k to a whopping 23k but take it into context my mates just shelled out 50k for a 850. Bhp evo track car