Luan Pra bang

I can't really see the comparisons from your working envirnment to mine. The job hours and required skills are completely different. You also need to be aware that in my trade there is no room for bad staff, carrying dead weight will destroy your business in a matter of months. A bad chef can ruin you in a day.
I can guarantee you that the only English candiates I get will be people I already know.

Norman D. Landings

The 32,000 jobs that Lloyds is losing/has lostare all from the retail side, NONE from the investment side. You (and everyone) do realise that it's the investment banks which bought and sold debt yes? Not one single person out of those 32,000 people who are losing or have already lost their jobs had any input to those decisions, they effectively work(ed) for a different company.

Do any of you think it's a good thing that people in branches, call centre's, admin building etc are out of work because a few people in the city who 'invest' the money that the retail bank makes/made lose their jobs? Those city workers are still in their jobs, and still getting £millions in bonuses!!

'Bankers', as in the people we all love to hate, are the people in the city of london, not people in retail bank buildings around the country!!

To blame the front end workers at banks for the credit crunch and it's fallout is akin to blaming a newsagent for the current NOTW scandal!!

kingofturds

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The problem with the EU is that it's not really the level playing field it is supposed to be. Sure they come here and work hard but that is because £5.93 is 3 times what they would earn back in their own Country IF they could even get a job.

Still what do I know I'm just waiting for this European dream that promised to make ALL of us richer to start.

Lisawrx

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The only hours we don't have somebody working at my place is between 8 and 11pm. Granted our shifts aren't 12 hours as a rule, if that is more what you are getting at, but if the needs of the business demands it, hours worked can be changed at very short notice (whether that be the length of shift, or when it is worked) and split shifts are not uncommon.

Yes, a chef needs to be top quality and I see what you may mean there, although I would have thought there would be English people willing and wanting to apply their trade, but you are more knowledgable about that than I am. The rest of your staff, however, are just customer service, just like us, and there is just as much need in our retail environment that customer facing staff are good, as there is in your business.

I don't know how many opportunities you have given (in terms of advertising jobs/taking staff on if they have applied), but it just seems you are selling English people a little bit short here. Fair enough, there are some wasters out there, and I am the first to admit that from what I see around me, but there are also people out there willing to work hard. You seem to suggest that is not the case.

EddScott

One of our favorite locals employed a nice english girl who always had a chat while serving us and talked hair with my wife. She has now gone to Uni and they have employed some miserable EE woman. She has made us feel so unwelcome we have started going elsewhere.

I don't believe that english employees aren't even worth looking at for jobs.

Luan Pra bang

The skills required for waiting staff and retail staff are different trust me I have experience of both. All of which is beside the point that in my experience English people who are willing to take pride in the lower paying jobs are rare and hard to find, I wish that was not the case but it is.

tony de wonderful

I'd go with that. The EE girls in bars/restaurants are generally miserable as sin.

Lisawrx

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Fair enough. I don't doubt the skills required are different, all I was saying is they are both customer service roles. What I would say, is the demands of either role will differ from place to place. I only mention that as I'm not sure what you are getting at in terms of what waiting staff do that would be so unappealing to English people that you can't find any willing.

However, I can't/won't argue over your experience. My experience wouldn't support your viewpoint, but everyone sees different things, and attitudes/experiences can obviously be significantly different place to place.