I have a E90 330D and there is no way I would associate it with the word Performance....

 

My m8 has a seat leon 1.9d fr as is quick as shi,' for a 1.9d would consider 1 if i need a car on mpg.

 

Driving a 'performance' diesel can be likened to trying to play a tune on one of those short keyboards - as soon as you get a good tune going you run out of keys

 

Nor me, far too unresponsive but still overall a very good all round vehicle with enough grunt to actually enjoy driving it.

 

You really need to clarify that opinion with some real world data... What car, what did you run out of while making your tune and why? What was the issue? Lack of torque, headroom, gearing, response? What performance petrol are you comparing it too? Etc...

 

Bit of a generalisation there??

 

Not at all, there was a queue of them trying to do just that obviously rather than one isolated incident

 

Hi Stu, looks like your doing a great job there.
I would imagine that a 3.0d with that sort of power would have the advantage of being a sleeper to reinforce its ability to embarrass some of the performance elite. What real world comparison are you able to give in terms of acceleration for example?

 

this is my 335d ,should be around 360 brake and 570 foot





and nothing wrong with the performance

 

Well for a real simple example, I still own my BMW M5 (5litre V8 ) that I've owned as a daily driver for 6 years and take to the ring twice a year etc and this is faster in pretty much any scenario you throw at it except from about 130 - 190mph and any triple figure A road where the M's stability wins hands down, but the M is on Eibachs and billies, poly throughout and isn't afflicted with damn run flats so that isn't the best comparison admittedly.

I only bought this as I'm sick of putting £110 a week in the M5.

 

Recently changed from an R32 Golf MkV to an A3 2.0 diesel Quattro.

The A3 is the superior road car in just about every respect when it comes to road-going performance and seems just as quick in the midrange. And I'm getting twice the miles per gallon.

It lacks the excitement and certainly doesn't get off the line as quickly but I've got an Impreza for that!

 

I expect by the time the nights up, you will be accused of powering that speedo with an electric drill with the car on ramps outside your house. Roflol

 

Ive a remapped D4 Audi 4.2 tdi mapped to 395 & 900 , it does go well, (for a diesal)

 

haha probably but im not fussed though

 

I bet that speedo was powered by an electric drill.....

 

ROFLOL.

 

Go back ten years and I'd have never entertained the idea of owning an oil burner (or an automatic).

<----- But now. Perfect for me as it's quick, relatively economic for my commute, and plenty of space for ferrying the kids and all their cr*p around. Comfy too. Must be old age Should probably get it re-mapped

Not sure if it still is but the 535d held the world record for the fastest production diesel: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/5-s...30635/bmw-535d

 

You really should mate. They are Epic engines and come to life with another 100ftlb and 70bhp. Better fuel economy too... absolute no brainer.

 

Convert to the diesel brigade here too.

Having owned a 470/480 new age. I wanted something cheap to run, reliable and "gutsy" i.e. to fast enough to not get frustrated with it. Got an 11 year old BMW 330D and I actually really like it to the extent where even when I get back into the performance car market I'm going to have one of these for the everyday stuff; it just makes sense.

That 3 litre straight 6 turbo diesel really is a great engine you get 200bhp and 300lbs torque, 40 MPG (and you don't have to drive like miss Daisy for that) it even doesn't sound like a diesel when you're driving it - you can hear it having a go at the straight 6 howl! It looks classy, you can get em with a decent amount of toys, they're comfy (compared to a scoob). Yes of course it's not going to be showing up anything half serious in the performance end of the spectrum, but it's more than quick enough in the real world (and that's from someone who has owned something genuinely fast).

As I said: they just make perfect sense!

BTW All diesels are not created equal: I drove a brand new top end Diesel Astra the other day and the 12 year old Beemer made it look and sound like a tractor!

 

Indeed. Sadly most diesel haters are comparing great petrol engines to these modern day tractors and not the higher end diesels that are shaping the way forward. I remap modern diesels day in day out to the tune of between 3 and 5 a day (In house) and many more remotely via my installer network and the majority of "Bread and butter" diesels as I call them have only advanced with regards emission control and fuel economy and are in no way shape or form aimed at strong performance. There are some however, that really are Epic.

Have you tried the TU2 version of yours Paul? The twin turbo model?

 

900lb worth or torque?

 

i dont understand these big 3.0 4.0 diesel engines. my daily runner is a astra 1.7 dti mk4 estate cracking small engine does what it says on the tin... surely a 335 bmw or audi will be thirsty on diesel?? defeating the point of a diesel in the first place??

 

Depends on what you define as thirsty I guess. Compared to my M5 the TD is Epicly better and acceptable to me for a 550ftlb/360bhp 6 series type GT car.

Its nothing like your Astra for sure, but here are my consumption figures on a flat road cruising at various speeds.

50mph


60mph


70mph


80mph


90mph


100mph


From cold start in school run traffic to work.

 

I'm guessing Nm (not lb ft)???


Even so, that'd be circa 660lb ft!! But that's modern (turbo)diesels for yer!

 

Any recommendations?

Heard some good stuff about this lot: http://www.e-maps.co.uk/

And is there stuff worth doing before a remap, e.g. DPF removal, swirl flaps removal, etc. and would they / can they map out EGR?

 

Simon over at E-maps is pretty good, never seen any particularly bad maps from him. Swirl flaps depend on age as the later ones are modified and work just fine.. Google is your friend here.

DPF removal will enhance power capability but is of course illegal. personally, I cant abide smoke from vehicles so wouldn't remove mine.

 

I haven't mate; concerned that if I do, I'll want one and the idea is to do some budget motoring for a while. I can well imagine that the BMW 3.D would be great as a twin turbo though.

Am considering a remap for mine - I'm pretty convinced it's VERY conservatively tuned! .....pity you're all the way up in Blackpool.

 

whats the main diff between a 325d and 330d?

 

5d

 

lol