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Troops,live rounds,gas,mow the ****ers down...the lot ,feck 'em
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Water cannons ,tear gas,etc
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Got it about right
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we are too tough on the little dears
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Old 09 August 2011, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Once you start arresting them, you have to take them away, leaving even less officers there, who are then at a greater risk of harm and have even less chance of controlling the mobs. It's a lose lose situation.
This.
Old 09 August 2011, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Once you start arresting them, you have to take them away, leaving even less officers there, who are then at a greater risk of harm and have even less chance of controlling the mobs. It's a lose lose situation.
So just shoot them then and clear the bodies up in the morning
Old 09 August 2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So just shoot them then and clear the bodies up in the morning


I have said something similar during the mad month of July that we experience in certain parts of N.Ireland.

If you see your mate get dropped by a bullet in the head, then you will not hang around to do anymore rioting/looting.
Old 09 August 2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by urban


I have said something similar during the mad month of July that we experience in certain parts of N.Ireland.

If you see your mate get dropped by a bullet in the head, then you will not hang around to do anymore rioting/looting.
Exactly
Old 09 August 2011, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yep well time to forget being world police and sort out our own issues as I said many months ago as I am sure YOU will remember!
I do remember, yes.

https://www.scoobynet.com/881377-libya-10.html

You think and feel that GB should withdraw its status as a permanent member of the UNSC - I and others do not. DCI summed-up, rather succinctly, why:

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=273

If you wish to discuss this further I suggest you resurrect the Libya thread above.
Old 09 August 2011, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I do remember, yes.

https://www.scoobynet.com/881377-libya-10.html

You think and feel that GB should withdraw its status as a permanent member of the UNSC - I and others do not. DCI summed-up, rather succinctly, why:

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=273

If you wish to discuss this further I suggest you resurrect the Libya thread above.
There is no discussion to be had. I was right. End of!
Old 09 August 2011, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So just shoot them then and clear the bodies up in the morning
That would be illegal. Are you of the view that there are circumstances when governments can suspend the rule of law?
Old 09 August 2011, 01:29 PM
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The Met is so poorly managed - the commissioner who heads and directs , who ever he is now , has been appointed on the basis of sucking all the right ***** at the local masonic lodge .
Excuses and rhetoric is rife from these incompetents .
The met needs a hard nose kunt from the flying squad or similar - not these career tossers
Old 09 August 2011, 01:37 PM
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Old 09 August 2011, 01:39 PM
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Old 09 August 2011, 01:47 PM
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Old 09 August 2011, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Exactly
Like this F1?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot-t...rthern_Ireland
Old 09 August 2011, 03:29 PM
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Old 09 August 2011, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffin Dodger
Should get the army in to sort them out, the police would seem to be ineffective. Live rounds is a bit to extreme though
didn't seem too extreme in Derry on Bloody Sunday did it?
Old 09 August 2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
you don't mess with and SA-80 round in the side of the head
Old 09 August 2011, 04:19 PM
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tazer them, turn the ark royal into a "hulk", or buy aquire acheaper one, moor it of the arctic.
Old 09 August 2011, 04:38 PM
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I don't think you can make a serious case for actually killing rioters intentionally. After all, however distasteful their activities might be, their purpose is not usually one of taking life.
However the administration of a dose of substantial physical punishment applied with a degree of enthusiasm such that the scum bags are unlikely ever to forget it wouldn't go amiss.
And as already said anybody intentionally present at a riot, whether a spectator or ring-leader should consider themselves a part of it and liable to face the same consequences as the perpetrators.
Old 09 August 2011, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I don't think you can make a serious case for actually killing rioters intentionally
Why not?

Originally Posted by Blue by You
however distasteful their activities might be, their purpose is not usually one of taking life.
So, is that why they set fire to the bottom floor of a building(carpet right) with tenants above?
Old 09 August 2011, 04:53 PM
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I hard a cop saying today that for the first few days they had 6,000 coppers out and were really stretched. But today they had 16,000 coppers out Something doesn't quite add up. But I bet they still have those overweight smug traffic control cops chasing some poor little kid in a beaten up old Escort with bald tyres instead of getting their fat ***** out and doing some real police work.

And some poor sod in Tottenham had been watching whilst a neighbour's shop was wrecked with hardly a copper in sight saying they had twice as many police out for the Spurs soccer game last Saturday

And in the unlikely event that there are hundreds of arrests where the hell are they going to put them? They don't deserve bail.

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Old 09 August 2011, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Why not?
Already answered that in your second quote from my post.


Originally Posted by urban
So, is that why they set fire to the bottom floor of a building(carpet right) with tenants above?
Do you seriously believe their intent was to take life?

I have no doubt you are genuinely indignant and outraged as any sane person would be, but you need to apply some rationale to the situation.

BTW I'm neither a 'softie' nor insensitive to the suffering caused to innocent victims by these scum bags.
Old 09 August 2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Do you seriously believe their intent was to take life?

I have no doubt you are genuinely indignant and outraged as any sane person would be, but you need to apply some rationale to the situation.

BTW I'm neither a 'softie' nor insensitive to the suffering caused to innocent victims by these scum bags.
The thought must have entered their heads that people were living above?

Some rationale - I've seen more than my fair share of voilence unfortunately.
These b@stards simply don't care, they wreck and smash
Then they moan because the place is a mess, however they'll be happy to go "sign on" for some dole money
Bet you that building doesn't get torched
Old 09 August 2011, 05:38 PM
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Can I suggest the water cannon are filled with "smart water" and they'll never go to a night club again .
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Originally Posted by David Lock
I hard a cop saying today that for the first few days they had 6,000 coppers out and were really stretched. But today they had 16,000 coppers out Something doesn't quite add up. But I bet they still have those overweight smug traffic control cops chasing some poor little kid in a beaten up old Escort with bald tyres instead of getting their fat ***** out and doing some real police work.

And some poor sod in Tottenham had been watching whilst a neighbour's shop was wrecked with hardly a copper in sight saying they had twice as many police out for the Spurs soccer game last Saturday

And in the unlikely event that there are hundreds of arrests where the hell are they going to put them? They don't deserve bail.

dl
But it's the Escort driving scum bag who's doing all this ****e, so traffic cops go get them.
Old 09 August 2011, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
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+1.

Ok maybe a bit extreme but these idiots are running the police (who are doing a great job) ragged so it's time for the troops, a few rubber bullets and some tear gas.

Failing that water hydrants that spray acid
Old 09 August 2011, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Deploy the army with lots and lots and lots of CS gas then a light sprinkling of cold water from fire engines. CS gas reacts with cold water and starts to sting the skin even more Then send the troops in with pick axe handles as ****** squads to rap the thugs round the back of the legs go and grab them whilst they are rubbing their faces, drag them behind the lines of riot police, tie them up with plasticuffs and hand them over to the police to be arrested for breach of the peace, rioting, inciting racial hatred, looting and criminal damage. No judge, no jury take them straight to prison for 5 years.

Rinse and repeat until they either get the message or are all tied up face down in puddles of CS / water with no means to rub their faces
Wurz you know as well as I that bringing the Military in would need a change of law. Perhaps the PSNI could come over and help. They still have some residual experience.

The family of the hoodlum who got shot have condemned the violence.

Block all BBM/Mobile comms and most of this ****e will stop.

Briefly mention it on the news and then let is drop, don't give it coverage just make us aware. It'll all stop when school begins in a few weeks.
Old 09 August 2011, 09:43 PM
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Old 09 August 2011, 09:47 PM
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Quite ! I'm speechless too!
Old 09 August 2011, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
But it's the Escort driving scum bag who's doing all this ****e, so traffic cops go get them.

That's a fair point which I overlooked. dl
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Old 10 August 2011, 07:30 AM
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We should buy one of the more isolated and desolate scottish islands and dump them all there. Then we'll see how much they really like anarchy.


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