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Old 16 August 2011, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Read this, and inwardly digest - then all your stress will disappear. Three simple words:

MERGE IN TURN.

It's what you're supposed to do, and, Glesga - you're in the wrong.

There is absolutely no point in traffic queueing in a single lane for a mile when two lanes are available.
Ah, so you're one of those annoying b*stards then.

Old 16 August 2011, 05:34 PM
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As annoying as it can be when you get cut up or whatever by some ***** or other, I have now come to the conclusion that it is just not worthwhile driving like a maniac in an effort to get back at him. If you don't cause an accident you are quite likely to get reported for it and get done yourself in the end.

Traffic is too heavy for all that performance now.

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Old 17 August 2011, 02:56 PM
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What does my brain in driving now is the slow speeds some drivers want to do ... Trying to save fuel i expect. I followed a que of traffic the other day with a old lady doing 28 - 35

And dont even start me on the brainless idiots that they allow to drive busses nowadays ... ***** the lot of em
Old 17 August 2011, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wish
What does my brain in driving now is the slow speeds some drivers want to do ... Trying to save fuel i expect. I followed a que of traffic the other day with a old lady doing 28 - 35

And dont even start me on the brainless idiots that they allow to drive busses nowadays ... ***** the lot of em
What were the traffic conditions and what was the speed limit on that part of the road. What type of road was it?

You have to qualify your complaint if you are going to run anyone down for their driving.

Whatever kind of a star you might be behind the wheel, or what you consider yourself to be, you have no right to criticise someone for driving safely within their personal limits, especially with respect to the speed limits.

You could have impressed everyone by your manliness of course by attempting to overtake the entire traffic queue.

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Old 17 August 2011, 03:38 PM
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Sorry this is a national speed limit of 60 ...
Old 17 August 2011, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wish
Sorry this is a national speed limit of 60 ...
Yes understood.

I know its irritating of course, but you have to make allowances for elderly people, they have a different outlook, largely wanting to be safe and avoid any trouble. Also of course, their reactions etc. are slower, as you will find out yourself one day. It does not of course preclude them from driving as long as they are safe to do so.

They say Patience is a virtue, it also helps you to live longer!

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Old 17 August 2011, 08:23 PM
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Yes there are idiots everywhere.Just about every journey I make,however short,I come across at least 1 numpty.
Tonight I went to pick up my daughter from the station:round trip about 4 miles.

1:Guy in an Audi drove along the hatched white lines into oncoming traffic for 50+ yards to avoid the people queuing at the lights ending up at the lights in the 'Right Turn Only' lane & proceeds to push in to go straight on.

2.Stop at shops with about 6 parking spaces outside.These are usually taken but surprisingly 2 adjacent spaces where available.Que women in big Merc saloon who drives in and parks across both spaces.She did kerb her wheel so some justice there.

3.Stop at 'Give Way to Oncoming Traffic' sign.Flash lights at oncoming Range Rover to confirm I am giving way.Range Rover drives past without acknowledging me, driven by a women of about 25 on the phone.

Oh well..............just another day driving.
Old 17 August 2011, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Whatever kind of a star you might be behind the wheel, or what you consider yourself to be, you have no right to criticise someone for driving safely within their personal limits, especially with respect to the speed limits.
You are right about that. What gets me is you can be following the speed limit + a small error factor, and you still get idiots either tailgating you like "get out of my way" or you get undertaken at speed.

Classic place for this is Princes Rd/Parkway, Manchester going either way but mainly North. The Motorway goes to a 3 lane rd with a 40 mph limit and people will pass you, under and overtaking. And near moss side in the 30 zone people will undertake if you stick to the limit.
Old 17 August 2011, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72

My favourite trick is watching the alpha males at the traffic lights, they see a woman in an Impreza (obviously don't like the challenge to their masculinity) and are determind they are going to win the race to be off first.
Or....... reduced blood flow to the brain leading to impaired judgement due to the nursing of an erm... semi.

Sorry, but when my wife drives my car...........
Old 17 August 2011, 09:12 PM
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People , mainly ole dears with little else to amuse themselves , running along at a steady 38 out of town when they could be doing 20 mph faster and then blipping the throttle to 43 as soon as they reach a 40mph limit and slowing down to 33 once theyve got to the 30 limit

Oh how bloody amusing you are
Old 17 August 2011, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
some ***** or other
We call them didlos these days.
Old 18 August 2011, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
We call them didlos these days.
I don't use them myself!

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Old 18 August 2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72
If they look particularly keen I like to rev the engine a bit to wind them up and make sure they know I'm as game as them....and then let them tear off while I just pootle along as if I've all the time in the world
I developed an evil version of this for gung-ho youngsters/alpha-males...

Would work better for a lady,

Rev, make eye contact and then let the clutch out and immediately stop... they usually just launch into the distance, regardless of the colour of the lights

But play nice, only do it when nothing is coming

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Old 18 August 2011, 09:50 PM
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**** me, the X6 is one ugly vehicle. BMW should supply a Labrador to anyone who buys one.
Agreed. Looks like an X3 on steroids. Pointless vehicle!

Don't mind Range Rovers (are they only available in black btw?) and Discos though.
Old 18 August 2011, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
My biggest hate is people who don't merge into a lane on the motorway/duel carriageway when one is being closed. Fair enough, some might not have seen the signs straight away, but it's the ones that try to go right to the end and miss the whole queue that p*ss me off. I NEVER let them in.

Same with people who try to undertake when you're doing at least 70 and are stuck behind someone else. I always speed up to close the gap they could get in.

Other than that, I'm pretty chilled on the road. Life's too short to be permanently raging, which is what you would be if you got worked up over every muppet. At least half the people on the road must regularly do something stupid that means others are disadvantaged or even put in danger by them. I like to give my car a thrashing at times (out in the country) but I like to think it's well-judged, and it doesn't mean I'm not courteous towards other drivers.

You can't drive 100 yards in a busy town/city without at least one person doing something stupid.
You drive much like me by the sound of it!

There's always some bint that lets in the queue jumpers!
Old 18 August 2011, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
You drive much like me by the sound of it!

There's always some bint that lets in the queue jumpers!
It must be something predominantly Scottish.

Think about it: two lanes have to merge into one. This means that the transit time for each vehicle is doubled for vehicles close to the merge point and also further away from the merge point but because of the natural buffering effect the decrease in speed is less obvious the further back from the merge point you are. Logically, this means that no matter how early you merge, the net result is the same - your speed is halved.

But think about this: if you merge too early, then you let people from farther back in the queue get into the position of vying for the merge point. The only sensible course of action is for the occupants of the two lanes to remain in their lanes until the merge point, then zip together seamlessly. If you recognise this simple fact and act accordingly, then all of your stress and perceived notions of queue-jumping will evaporate and you can continue on with the rest of your life. Seriously, give it some thought and you'll see I'm right.

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Old 18 August 2011, 11:34 PM
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generally when carved up or jumped in front of i find sarcasm the best approach . flash lights to get drivers attention then steer with knee and applaude thier sh1te driving skills . another classic if you ever get the chance when carved by someone who didn't indicate is to yell out , NICE CAR WHERE DID YOU GET IT ? they can never resist and nearly allways name the dealer , after they have done that shout back ide take it back if i where you , they allways ask why , reply with THE FUKING INDICATORS DON'T WORK , THIS ONE WORKS VERY WELL WITH WOMEN BMW AND AUDI DRIVERS . another nice approach when pulled out in front of at roundabouts in summer , is to remove your glasses and offer them to the other driver while shouting WOULD YOU LIKE TO BORROW THESE
Old 18 August 2011, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
It must be something predominantly Scottish.

Think about it: two lanes have to merge into one. This means that the transit time for each vehicle is doubled for vehicles close to the merge point and also further away from the merge point but because of the natural buffering effect the decrease in speed is less obvious the further back from the merge point you are. Logically, this means that no matter how early you merge, the net result is the same - your speed is halved.

But think about this: if you merge too early, then you let people from farther back in the queue get into the position of vying for the merge point. The only sensible course of action is for the occupants of the two lanes to remain in their lanes until the merge point, then zip together seamlessly. If you recognise this simple fact and act accordingly, then all of your stress and perceived notions of queue-jumping will evaporate and you can continue on with the rest of your life. Seriously, give it some thought and you'll see I'm right.
Section 288 of the highway code states "Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic ". Unfortunately many people fail to grasp this, so instead of using the outside lane to merge in where available they use it as a race track to get as far ahead as possible.
Old 19 August 2011, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by foxarm
so instead of using the outside lane to merge in where available
The only trouble is everyone (well most people) think that anyone who dares to merge AFTER they have merged is some sort of queue jumper as they have overtaken more cars to achieve their position so opportunities to safely merge can be limited.

There is a good reason for the 'Merge in Turn' signs you see at some roadworks now, it's just a shame that most people choose to ignore them
Old 19 August 2011, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by foxarm
Section 288 of the highway code states "Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic ". Unfortunately many people fail to grasp this, so instead of using the outside lane to merge in where available they use it as a race track to get as far ahead as possible.
or theyre simply using available road space , cutting your journey time

Just up the road in Newhaven we have something that illustrates this very well

There is one bridge crossing the river and on the west side a circular one way road with roads joining it . All this means at peak time the flow of traffic east to west is backed up sometimes a mile . About 1/2 mile from the bridge, east side, theres a roundabout and you have the choice of staying on the main road or taking your chances and using this other road which joins up again with the main road just before the bridge ( however there is a level crossing and frequent trains to contend with )

I used to think ,you cheeky f**kers for trying to get there faster and generally disrupting the flow - now i recognise the extra road space and a more conciliatory approach ( letting in in turn )speeds everything up

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Old 19 August 2011, 09:51 AM
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everyone should just bang down the available lanes until the lane is closed and then merge in turn.

if you merge ahead of time and people are still running down the still open lane, so what?!
Old 19 August 2011, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
everyone should just bang down the available lanes until the lane is closed and then merge in turn.

if you merge ahead of time and people are still running down the still open lane, so what?!
Survival of the quickest...... it's only not fair when your car is too slow
Old 19 August 2011, 02:48 PM
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Thank you to all the people who merge a mile or two before the roads closes as it gets me home faster.

and to the person who posted in this thread that they never let people in this normally results in me pissing myself laughing.. the amount of cars I have seen that have crashed in to the vehicle in front on motorways....do you know when you do not let someone in the person behind you always does!

thanks for letting me get home sooner
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isn't it in the highway code that you are obligated to let overtakers back in?
Old 19 August 2011, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
isn't it in the highway code that you are obligated to let overtakers back in?
You certainly may not accelerate inside them to prevent them overtaking...thats classed as dangerous driving.

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Old 19 August 2011, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nizcon
Or....... reduced blood flow to the brain leading to impaired judgement due to the nursing of an erm... semi.

Sorry, but when my wife drives my car...........

I'll have to have a proper look next time it happens
Old 19 August 2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Thank you to all the people who merge a mile or two before the roads closes as it gets me home faster.

and to the person who posted in this thread that they never let people in this normally results in me pissing myself laughing.. the amount of cars I have seen that have crashed in to the vehicle in front on motorways....do you know when you do not let someone in the person behind you always does!

thanks for letting me get home sooner
What do you do when a lorry goes out to block the whole lane to stop the likes of you? I love watching that.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
It must be something predominantly Scottish.

Think about it: two lanes have to merge into one. This means that the transit time for each vehicle is doubled for vehicles close to the merge point and also further away from the merge point but because of the natural buffering effect the decrease in speed is less obvious the further back from the merge point you are. Logically, this means that no matter how early you merge, the net result is the same - your speed is halved.

But think about this: if you merge too early, then you let people from farther back in the queue get into the position of vying for the merge point. The only sensible course of action is for the occupants of the two lanes to remain in their lanes until the merge point, then zip together seamlessly. If you recognise this simple fact and act accordingly, then all of your stress and perceived notions of queue-jumping will evaporate and you can continue on with the rest of your life. Seriously, give it some thought and you'll see I'm right.
What about when everyone has merged, there's plenty of room for someone to merge behind you and they continue down and slow the whole queue down by pulling in? How does that sit with your logic? Surely it goes against common sense and manners?
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
What about when everyone has merged, there's plenty of room for someone to merge behind you and they continue down and slow the whole queue down by pulling in? How does that sit with your logic? Surely it goes against common sense and manners?
In my scenario that wouldn't happen. When everyone has merged it will be single lane traffic. There will be no queue-jumping, traffic will flow smoothly and no-one will get het up.
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
What do you do when a lorry goes out to block the whole lane to stop the likes of you? I love watching that.
I would imagine he will put his blues and twos on.
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