You were saying?

Tony

 

Classics will become classics end of! Haha I might not be right but Tony might not be right either we will all be digging this back up in 15 years either saying told you so or fair enough only time will tell and how many owners keep looking after there classics

 

Look at the BMW E30 M3 and the 190e Cosworth. Both very iconic cars in DTM and WTC , both are classed as classic but the M3 in it's greater numbers is worth the more. The M3 is an icon of a saloon car being great on the track and the road. It has that something special which TonyBurns is talking about.

Subaru have made the mistake of making too many special editions with the classics and it's hard to judge what will and will not ( if any make the cut ). The 22B will always be a great collectors car , and will be a classic because it represents the closest thing to the dominating rally car.

The P1 may well gain it as it is Prodrives example of what the perfect Impreza for the UK market. Like the 22B Gordon Murry was involed and that puts alot in it's favour. With it being the only offical UK 2 door again will help it have the right thing that people look for in classic cars. ( I hope so because it was something I took into account when buying mine )

The Type-R will have a strong cult status and you may see in the longer run when numbers of good clean orginal examples come low it being seen potentially as a classic.

With the age of a car it's normally insurance companies that put the age term of 15+ years to be a classic , and when they hit 25+ again they are more acepted into the classic circles.

 

well , personally speaking , i bought my car because it is what i had wanted for a long time , since i first saw them in rallying , and i dont ever see me selling it .
i do see tony's point but i cant help thinking of the mk2 escort popular plus 1.3 2 door which is now selling for thousands , very basic , no pedigree as it was sold new .
if the value does go up , then excellent but , by the time that starts to happen i suspect i will have rebuilt the engine a couple of times so any value increase will quickly swallowed up and it wont be profit , so value makes no difference to me
i love it for what it is , looks excellent , drives beautifully , throws me back in my seat has the most excellent sound and most importantly makes me smile and giggle when i take it out .
and that my friends is what will always make me think of my car as a classic .
long may it continue to provide me with that feel good factor.
the impreza does indeed have the x factor (the classic for me anyway)

 

You are all over analysing this.

We won't know until the car becomes a classic. As of right now it's way too common to be a classic so just wait.

 

OOOFFFTTT!!!! what have i started lol

 

I think tony's being a tad unfair, as i said and has been said and proved to be fact as numbers dwindle prices rise, fact.

A desirable model will always fetch a premium, but as with the escort as less and less survive any old shell will do.

Mate of mine sold a 2 door 1.3 engined escort for £200 10 or so yrs ago that shell would be worth a fair few quid now if he had kept it in his garage.

As the enthusiasts get older and richer and the cars rot it won't matter what it was people will give good money for childhood memories and life long dreams.

Who would have thought a yamaha fiz 50cc could fetch 5k or the hillman imp would be worth a fortune 20yrs ago.

Classic or not it's all subjective, it's more about supply and demand, and i think supply will be short and demand high, who cares about status i won't sell mine so it's not really important to me but it will be nice to know my lad might get a few quid for it when i pop me clogs

 

Tony has form when it comes to classic bashing, check previous / every post

TX.

 

I have noticed how the number of classics I see on the road has really dropped the last couple of years. They must be hitting the bottom of their second value now, especially as they get more rare.

 

All the special and limited editions will end up classics. There really is no doubt about it. Even the 2000 turbos and wrx`s will command good money. It might take another 20 years though.

 

Yes and I have 2 scoobs, 1 classic and 1 newage sitting outside

Tony

 

Its becoming a real b1tch keeping them on the road tbh. Mine is now 18 years old and every other time I take it out there's something that needs attending to. Starter was replaced, all the coolant hoses are needing done and the fuel filler pipe is becoming porous.

Most are throwing in the towel and I'm not surprised. At this age, there's no way you can use them as daily commuters reliably. Mine is an occasional use car and its costing a fair bit to even keep for that.

 

I`m hoping my Scooby will be seen as a bit more special and deserving of a slot in what you would call a future desirable classic....

22b`s cannot be the only one that will be thought this way....

It was, after all a 1992 4 door classic that was the begining of all the Scooby Hype
And for this to happen, subaru had to make the minium number of road going versions of the car to be handed to Colin McRae (To replace the aging Legacy)... Hence the Version 1 Type-RA...... Nearly all were white, but a very small handfull made it out of Subaru in Red....
Mine is an Original Red Version 1 Type-RA... 19 years old and still gleaming shiney in it`s original First coat of Paint.... So how can the V1 Type-RA`s be so over looked and dismissed as it was in an earlier post.... Sniff Sniff... LoL

 

i thought this about the type r , it was around before the 22B , it may not have won the rally but without these road going versions , they wouldnt be there at all

 

Heres hoping the type r makes it to classic status I have a V3 so hopefully its one of the first built !

And the answers is in the question: Will the classic become a classic ?

 

is yours a white one per chance as it seems that the earliest ones were nearly all white

 

Can you define which varient - as I have 2 I want to make sure at least 1 is the correct to meet classic criteria

 

A 22B is a type R, just a little enhanced
Now if you want to see what the fuss is all about, go look up the 1997 WRC car, then compare that between a type R and a 22B, you will see what the fuss is about

Tony

 

If one is a 22B then your laughing, if you dont (esp a wrx or a uk turbo), forget it, realistically only the 22B will become a classic, you will still have a cult car status on other vehicles but your not looking at them being worth much (if they have not rusted by then )

Tony

 

Come on tony, your respected as the phont of all knowledge on all things subaru, give just a little hope to us poor misguided, deluded enthusiasts that these money pits will one day pay us back

 

I'm not keeping mine for the potential future appreciation in value anyway.

I love seeing old cars on the road that have become scarce over the years. Pre-facelift cars are pretty much there already around my way, so its beginning to feel like I'm driving one of those old cars now.

 

No blue

I'm going to try and see if I can find a manufacture date when I get a chance

Thats what I'm hoping for

Clutching at straws or what

 

Think Sandy is referring to old Escorts

 

Out all the people on this thread, realisticly how many of you will still have the cars in say 10 or 20 years time?

 

Scary but I saw 2 escort rs turbo's within 5 mins of eachother yesterday, not seen that since the early 90's

Tony

 

Pretty much agree with Tony, the Impreza is a cult car but not a classic, don't even think the 22B will ever make it as a classic, why should it?

They are no Lancia Stratos.....

 

Probably me, as I dont think I can stomach the monumental loss I'm making already on it

 

Had mine 8 years so far as the first UK owner and have a double garage with no crap in it. Have plans for a 6 speed and forged build over the next year or two. It all comes down to how patient I am with fixing things that go wrong really.

In 20 years time, it'll be getting towards its 40th birthday! I suppose you have to wonder if the components will actually last that long.

 

Does this mean my restored Series McRae #001 of 200 will never be a classic

 

Me too, for the same reason as stef, i think i'll need to keep it for 30yrs before i see the money iv'e put into it and am about to put in yet again.