Impreza vs snow
13 September 2011, 01:46 PM
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See my post above, I have ran winter tyres since November and they have been far better than the 'summer' tyres previously fitted.
They have certainly performed okay in terms of roadholding and are much better in the wet.
They have not self destroyed and are still looking good, with plenty of tread.
They might last slightly less miles than a low wear rate 'high mileage' tyre, but I doubt they will be any worse than a good/premium normal tyre.
Obviouslly for best results they should be changed for good tyres for the summer and then changed back to winters for the erm, winter. But as I didn't have a spare set of wheels and the 'old' tyres (despite being nearly new) ar rubbish, I decided to try them out and they have been fine.
(On a Merc Vito van, not a Subaru, I had spare wheels for the Subaru so have changed them onto summers, and will be changing back to winters in a few weeks time no doubt)
13 September 2011, 02:14 PM
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I fitted the Pirelli SotoZero2 tyrers to my STi last winter and they were AMAZING!
I spent most of the winter worried about cars too close behind as my braking was too good for anyone else.
I tried to lose traction deliberately and couldn't a lot of the time, they were that good. Standard size as well, not narrow at all. They go on when daytime temps are below +7 and off when warmer. I have a gold and silver set of O.E. alloys so can swap quickly.
After last Oct to April, the wear is negligable too. I can get two summers and three winters out of my two sets of tyres (RE070 for the gold wheels). Not bad at all.
This winter the splitter and rear wing will come off too- and on will go large Dayglo signs warning following drivers of the extra grip and short stopping distances in ice and snow!
I spent most of the winter worried about cars too close behind as my braking was too good for anyone else.
I tried to lose traction deliberately and couldn't a lot of the time, they were that good. Standard size as well, not narrow at all. They go on when daytime temps are below +7 and off when warmer. I have a gold and silver set of O.E. alloys so can swap quickly.
After last Oct to April, the wear is negligable too. I can get two summers and three winters out of my two sets of tyres (RE070 for the gold wheels). Not bad at all.
This winter the splitter and rear wing will come off too- and on will go large Dayglo signs warning following drivers of the extra grip and short stopping distances in ice and snow!
13 September 2011, 07:20 PM
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No, no, nonsense.
See my post above, I have ran winter tyres since November and they have been far better than the 'summer' tyres previously fitted.
They have certainly performed okay in terms of roadholding and are much better in the wet.
They have not self destroyed and are still looking good, with plenty of tread.
They might last slightly less miles than a low wear rate 'high mileage' tyre, but I doubt they will be any worse than a good/premium normal tyre.
Obviouslly for best results they should be changed for good tyres for the summer and then changed back to winters for the erm, winter. But as I didn't have a spare set of wheels and the 'old' tyres (despite being nearly new) ar rubbish, I decided to try them out and they have been fine.
(On a Merc Vito van, not a Subaru, I had spare wheels for the Subaru so have changed them onto summers, and will be changing back to winters in a few weeks time no doubt)
See my post above, I have ran winter tyres since November and they have been far better than the 'summer' tyres previously fitted.
They have certainly performed okay in terms of roadholding and are much better in the wet.
They have not self destroyed and are still looking good, with plenty of tread.
They might last slightly less miles than a low wear rate 'high mileage' tyre, but I doubt they will be any worse than a good/premium normal tyre.
Obviouslly for best results they should be changed for good tyres for the summer and then changed back to winters for the erm, winter. But as I didn't have a spare set of wheels and the 'old' tyres (despite being nearly new) ar rubbish, I decided to try them out and they have been fine.
(On a Merc Vito van, not a Subaru, I had spare wheels for the Subaru so have changed them onto summers, and will be changing back to winters in a few weeks time no doubt)
13 September 2011, 07:47 PM
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I fitted the Pirelli SotoZero2 tyrers to my STi last winter and they were AMAZING!
I spent most of the winter worried about cars too close behind as my braking was too good for anyone else.
I tried to lose traction deliberately and couldn't a lot of the time, they were that good. Standard size as well, not narrow at all. They go on when daytime temps are below +7 and off when warmer. I have a gold and silver set of O.E. alloys so can swap quickly.
After last Oct to April, the wear is negligable too. I can get two summers and three winters out of my two sets of tyres (RE070 for the gold wheels). Not bad at all.
This winter the splitter and rear wing will come off too- and on will go large Dayglo signs warning following drivers of the extra grip and short stopping distances in ice and snow!
I spent most of the winter worried about cars too close behind as my braking was too good for anyone else.
I tried to lose traction deliberately and couldn't a lot of the time, they were that good. Standard size as well, not narrow at all. They go on when daytime temps are below +7 and off when warmer. I have a gold and silver set of O.E. alloys so can swap quickly.
After last Oct to April, the wear is negligable too. I can get two summers and three winters out of my two sets of tyres (RE070 for the gold wheels). Not bad at all.
This winter the splitter and rear wing will come off too- and on will go large Dayglo signs warning following drivers of the extra grip and short stopping distances in ice and snow!
14 September 2011, 09:19 AM
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They are softer (winters) so they will wear more in hotter weather and more so with an aggressive driving style and I certainly wouldn't have them on a car for a track-day or spirited road run, but for everyday running around they certainly aren't going to start melting and wearing away to nothing just because the temps is above 7 deg C, as Harvey implied.
14 September 2011, 07:24 PM
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It's true that for a gently driven car, Quality Winter tyres will do all year, especially in more moister climates, i.e. Western and North west regions. However, my RE070 grip well in the wet, and are amazing in the dry too. My tracking and geometry is spot on so the wear is nice and even too. Utter crap for cold driving though.
Saving for BC BR coilovers now- 4/3 long travel for Winter. 6/5 with helpers for the extra droop in Summer. Cheaper to store the Scooby over Winter but bugger that, it's fun to slide about slowly, as the RE070 just won't let go most of the year, and will do nothing elsein the Winter!
Saving for BC BR coilovers now- 4/3 long travel for Winter. 6/5 with helpers for the extra droop in Summer. Cheaper to store the Scooby over Winter but bugger that, it's fun to slide about slowly, as the RE070 just won't let go most of the year, and will do nothing elsein the Winter!
15 September 2011, 10:35 AM
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Big NO NO.
Winter tyres, ie friction are not efficient above 7 or 8C. Run winter tyres in the summer and they will not perform in terms of road holding and will probably self destroy. Life is also less than "summer" tyres.
Big NO NO.
Winter tyres, ie friction are not efficient above 7 or 8C. Run winter tyres in the summer and they will not perform in terms of road holding and will probably self destroy. Life is also less than "summer" tyres.
No, no, nonsense.
See my post above, I have ran winter tyres since November and they have been far better than the 'summer' tyres previously fitted.
They have certainly performed okay in terms of roadholding and are much better in the wet.
They have not self destroyed and are still looking good, with plenty of tread.
They might last slightly less miles than a low wear rate 'high mileage' tyre, but I doubt they will be any worse than a good/premium normal tyre.
Obviouslly for best results they should be changed for good tyres for the summer and then changed back to winters for the erm, winter. But as I didn't have a spare set of wheels and the 'old' tyres (despite being nearly new) ar rubbish, I decided to try them out and they have been fine.
(On a Merc Vito van, not a Subaru, I had spare wheels for the Subaru so have changed them onto summers, and will be changing back to winters in a few weeks time no doubt)
See my post above, I have ran winter tyres since November and they have been far better than the 'summer' tyres previously fitted.
They have certainly performed okay in terms of roadholding and are much better in the wet.
They have not self destroyed and are still looking good, with plenty of tread.
They might last slightly less miles than a low wear rate 'high mileage' tyre, but I doubt they will be any worse than a good/premium normal tyre.
Obviouslly for best results they should be changed for good tyres for the summer and then changed back to winters for the erm, winter. But as I didn't have a spare set of wheels and the 'old' tyres (despite being nearly new) ar rubbish, I decided to try them out and they have been fine.
(On a Merc Vito van, not a Subaru, I had spare wheels for the Subaru so have changed them onto summers, and will be changing back to winters in a few weeks time no doubt)
Do you want us to believe that you know more than the tyre manufacturers who are universal in their advice and all their technical information is similar.
Are thousands of Scandinavians and Europeans wrong?
Perhaps the problem is that you are not driving your Vito hard enough round corners to discover the limitations.
From first hand experience I assure you that road holding on winter tyres, especially on warmer days is not as good as that from my "normal" tyres. ie summer. You already accept that wear will be higher on winter tyres do you not?
Driven hard in warm conditions most people are capable of determining that winter tyres are not the best option and you say that you change from winter to summer on your Subaru so I think your arguement is a little confused.
BTW. These Vitos respond well to the right chip for not a lot of money. Drive it like it was stolen and you will soon discover the limitations of genuine winter/friction tyres.
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15 September 2011, 02:45 PM
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wasnt there somebody on here whos insurance said that it was void if running Winter Tyres, due the change in stopping distance and road holding.
Im sure there is something somewhere
Im sure there is something somewhere
15 September 2011, 05:22 PM
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Hey everyone
I have only owned my 04 WRX for a few months so I havnt experienced a winter with her yet, so was just wondering how they coped last year in the bad Snow and extreme temperatures?
Last year I had to invest in a set of snow chains for my Sky van and may get another set for the scooby before the winter kicks in and they all sell out!
I have only owned my 04 WRX for a few months so I havnt experienced a winter with her yet, so was just wondering how they coped last year in the bad Snow and extreme temperatures?
Last year I had to invest in a set of snow chains for my Sky van and may get another set for the scooby before the winter kicks in and they all sell out!
Imprezas are stiffly sprung, relatively light weight. They go well when there's nice, dry, warm tarmac but it can all go badly wrong, even in the wet if running cheap "ditch-finder" tyres.
Ideally, you want taller, narrower tyres giving some compliance and feedback at lower speeds.
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