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Old 14 September 2011, 09:30 AM
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Just to offered a different view of the Met Office, over spring/summer I've been cycling to work somedays. I've been using the BBC forecastt (which comes from the Met Office) and I've found their Next 24 hours forecast incredibly accurate. I've been able to more or less look out of the window and see the rain fall at the time predicted (and then clear up). So much so that if it says it will be gone by 5pm, I know when I cycle at 6pm it'll be more or less dry on the ground.

Possibly being in the South East it's more predictable?

I never used to worry about weather (and still don't in general, I would just prefer to cycle to and from work in the dry), but have watched it lately and it's quite accurate.

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Old 14 September 2011, 09:51 AM
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Well i'm hoping for Snow so as my house backs onto a park and i'm going to tie a sledge to my boys Suzuki LTA50 Quad and get him to pull me round the park

If he's good I might let him have a go too
Old 15 September 2011, 12:21 AM
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Thanks guy's. As soon as i know i will let you know. Tbh i think it's going to be a re-run of last year.
Old 15 September 2011, 07:40 AM
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Sounds like i will be snowed in for a month again then!

Big snowfall before christmas .....

Excellent!!!!!!!!
Old 15 September 2011, 09:30 AM
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The newspapers have already said we are due a hard winter but that sort of thing is considered to sell more copies of course!

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Old 15 September 2011, 09:56 AM
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Been following (as usual) the weekly ENSO Report from NOAA.

We are in a neutral phase, which is expected to stay +/- 0.5c for the next 2 months with a slightly higher chance of a -ve value in that time period with peak -ve values of perhaps -1.5c in towards Dec / Jan / Feb.

That means, there is a chance we could see some snow in that time period.

However, its expected later than this year.

Jan / Feb is my guess...
Old 20 September 2011, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by speye91
Thanks guy's. As soon as i know i will let you know. Tbh i think it's going to be a re-run of last year.

Any credence in this (source notwithstanding)? Visiting the Motherland in Oct.
Britain to be hit by SNOW in October... forecasters warn an early winter is on its way Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1YVwb5A3f
Old 20 September 2011, 07:02 PM
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At least the cold weather keeps the local eastern European 'band' off the street, and the Chuggers.
Old 20 September 2011, 09:20 PM
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Apparently the brilliant on the nail autumnal Breezes weve been having are going to peter out shortly heralding an indian summer of sorts ( damn )

- they may well only have been the end of hurricanes across the other side anyway

Beyond that shirt sleeves for xmas sail and about a month of the cold stuff before we creep back up the other side - sarf coast
Old 21 September 2011, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Miniman
Just to offered a different view of the Met Office, over spring/summer I've been cycling to work somedays. I've been using the BBC forecastt (which comes from the Met Office) and I've found their Next 24 hours forecast incredibly accurate.
Glad YOU found it so I, on the other hand, looked out of my window after reading their forecast of full sun all day to see grey clouds and spots of rsain. Guess what? An hour later their "forecast" had changed to what was ACTUALLY happening


Originally Posted by Miniman
I've been able to more or less look out of the window and see the rain fall at the time predicted (and then clear up). So much so that if it says it will be gone by 5pm, I know when I cycle at 6pm it'll be more or less dry on the ground.
I, on the other hand, saw a forecast telling me it would be dry and sunny, looked out of the window and it was, went out to do my lad's front discs and IT POURED HALF AN HOUR LATER, THEN AGAIN HALF AN HOUR AFTER THAT, AND SO ON FOR THE EVENING

Originally Posted by Miniman
Possibly being in the South East it's more predictable?
Or they take more care with that bit, are more bothered about it? You only have to watch the TV forecast when they travel over the country, watch it speed up as it passes over the East Coast, then slow for London and the SE

Originally Posted by Miniman
I never used to worry about weather (and still don't in general, I would just prefer to cycle to and from work in the dry), but have watched it lately and it's quite accurate.
I take no notice of it. They are a bunch of scaremongering, thieving gits, only interested in pushing their stupid GW theories. Honestly, if they can't get MY weather right an hour before, how can I trust them with what MIGHT happen in 50 years?
Old 21 September 2011, 01:53 PM
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No one can forecast the weather with any kind of certainty. The movements of weather systems is entropic and can move in any direction which cannot be foreseen completely accurately.

All the met men can do is to note all the actual reports that they get and work out with their big computers what looks like might happen. Sometimes it does and sometimes not.

That is all we can expect from the met forecasters, and believe me I have had a lifetime of dealing with that and sometimes second guessing from what I saw for myself. It is not the forecasters' fault anyway.

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Old 21 September 2011, 02:17 PM
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Then why do they call themselves 'forecasters'? Surely, 'guessers' would be a more apt description?
You have to wonder about their GW or Climate change predictions. How the hell is anyone actually supposed to believe them with their track record?
Old 21 September 2011, 03:17 PM
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I think it is more likely to be scientists who were talking about GBW and they were doing quite well out of it too. As I understand it, GBW does exist now and that is why they have to revert to another name for it...ie Climate Change! I have heard it mentioned by weathermen however.

If you think about it, weather forecasting is necessary for many reasons since it is better to have some idea what might happen and accept that it may not be totally accurate.

It is up to us all whether we actually believe what they say of course. They can be pretty accurate about the movement of a general weather system and the air mass in which it exists ,but when it comes to localised weather it can never be easy.

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Old 21 September 2011, 05:21 PM
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High pressure and they can forecast ok

Low pressure (obviously) a different matter altogether.

Hence why they are more likely to get the South East forecast more accurate than up here en Ecosse
Old 21 September 2011, 05:25 PM
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I postponed an exterior job this week because of the forecast I saw on Sunday.

Lovely weather here this week.

*******.
Old 21 September 2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by speye91
Thanks guy's. As soon as i know i will let you know. Tbh i think it's going to be a re-run of last year.

Was it yourself sir last year that got pretty much all the weather predictions etc correct?

If so.......I await your response. I didn't pay attention to BBC etc last year just your posts on here.


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Old 21 September 2011, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevesbluewrx
Was it yourself sir last year that got pretty much all the weather predictions etc correct?

If so.......I await your response. I didn't pay attention to BBC etc last year just your posts on here.


Steve
Yes, it was. I, too, look for his posts.
Old 21 September 2011, 06:22 PM
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Best indicator is nature itself. If the wasps are tucking up early and calves are getting winter coats as newborns, then the winter is liable to be bad. Nature is more in tune than the met office :-)
Old 21 September 2011, 06:59 PM
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The wasps around here are packing up.
Old 23 September 2011, 10:46 PM
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Les is right. The Uk weather can be so hard to predict. We are an Island after all. We can have many Micro climates. It's time for me to get back into the weather watching as it's more interesting during the Winter.
This up coming week is bang on, as forecast by the Met office....Get ya shorts n suntan lotion out for you down Saarf.
As reported in the Pap's..there just trying to cover all outcomes..Last winter, I seen so many fronts that could cause problems, Only to fizzle out.

Chart watching here i come and will keep you all informed.
Old 24 September 2011, 02:05 PM
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I reckon it is far too early to be talking about blizzards etc. anyway. I think I will just wait and see what actually happens...as usual.

Les
Old 24 September 2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Yes, it was. I, too, look for his posts.
+1


Although one radio station yesterday announced it would snow in October and be a repeat of last year winterwise. 2 hors later bbc news was advising it will be 27oC in the SE next week, so we get some good weather in spring and again in Autumn, the bits inbetween are just crap.


Hate the English weather system
Old 24 September 2011, 03:12 PM
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I would quite look fwd to loads of snow TBH. It's a good opportunity to laugh at unprepared motorists.
Old 24 September 2011, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I would quite look fwd to loads of snow TBH. It's a good opportunity to laugh at unprepared motorists.
2 pairs of snowsocks in my boot already

Steve
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