j4ckos mate

We have a cockapoo, hes brill, best thing ever got.

Bubba po

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FurballPhil

LoL... It`s a woman thing (I Think)... I wanted a nice new Shiney Exhaust For My Scoob.... But I Lost and the Miss`s won and now we have Alfie..

But Then again, she gave me another choice.... It was either a wee doggie or another Baby....... Like I said, Now we have Alfie.. LoL

sparkykev

Poodle crosses seem quite popular, i guess for their non-moulting properties.
My boss has a puggle (pug x beagle) i'm not sure what the benefits are with those.

Bubba po

I'm at a loss as to what to say, now. So many people have missed the point of this thread, that I'm convinced that Scoobynet dog-owners suffer from a kind of autism.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Basically if a breeder breeds them and someone pays the money and is happy I don't see the problem, doesn't make the purchaser stupid, people pay vast amounts for pedigrees that have been inbred into lots of problems, plus who says the breeds we have now are superior and nobody should do anything different, every pedigree is the result of selective breeding.

You can get all sniffy about them but people seem to be buying them, I think it adds an interesting new dimension to Dog breeds and choice, its kind of selective mongrel breeding but the breeders could just as easily breed two of the same breed together but they want to sell them.

I dont say ours is a Yorkie-Poo when anyone asks as I think it sounds a bit poncy, a bit like Bubba is saying and to be honest I dont know what he is, certainly looks like a Yorkie Poo but is I think quite big compared to others I have seen, I just say he is a mongrel, he is the perfect antidote to the Cheshire "Trophy Dog" brigade, all Red Setters and Dalmations, Weimeraners and other noble, impressive looking dogs, bought for the look.

An0n0m0us

Oh look it's the higher being that is Bubba po looking down on everyone again with his seemingly superior intelect. Must be great to be you being that you're so much better than everyone else?

And no I don't own a crossbreed but don't see anything wrong with them or the fact they can cost as much as a pedigree if they have been bred from good pedigree parents.

Jer

We have a Giant Schnauzer the amount of people who ask if it's a Labradoodle makes me .

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Main thing, with any Dog is that it is loved and treated well, saw a photo the other day of six Staffie pups that had been put to sleep as nobody wanted them and it brought a tear to my eye, basically baies that had been killed because nobody was there to take them.

Bubba po

Read my e-lips. I've got nothing against cross-breeds. I prefer them. But did you know that a "good pedigree parent" as you put it, is ruined as a pedigree breeder once put to that use?

Fashion victims - yes, I believe I am more intelligent than them.

Bubba po

I suspect this is an Alias identity. They're not allowed, you know. I think I'll report my suspicions.

An0n0m0us

Go ahead I have no other accounts so your suspicions are incorrect. As for being ruined when bred in that manner yes the pedigree is lost but the important factor is in paying for good parentage that doesn't have any breed inperfections such as bad hips or eyes etc.

If someone buys a cross breed for a lot of money with no knowledge/proof of the parentage then yes they are indeed mugs.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

We saw Rambo's mum, a rather nitty looking podgy terrier type thing, dad was around somewhere as well, that said as a kid my grandad had Mongrels from the mean streets of Wythensawe, two dogs **** and then the owners give the pups away and guess what "Nipper" lived until he was 17 and we had great fun with him, no pedigree certificates, no viewing the parents and it worked out, how do they manage to breed without the Kennel Club and Crufts.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

We paid £100

Proof of the parentage, as in blood lines, my criteria were that it was two Dogs but I think the Dog's cover that angle themselves and don't **** Cat's, Badgers or Donkey's, well to be honest Rambo would have had a pop at any of them but nature dictates that it wouldn't do him any good.

I have know people put lots of research into getting a Dog, choosing breeders carefully and still ending up with a duffer, I am no expert but thought a mongrel had a better chance based on the number living round our way as a kid to ripe old ages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis

Bubba po

A Dalmatian hound may have the most illustrious parentage in the history of breeding, but because of its inbred recessive genetics it is statistically likely to be stone deaf or partially deaf. A cross with a different breed is unlikely to produce any deaf puppies at all, at least in the first generation.

An0n0m0us

F1's may not matter as much but comes into importance with f1bs and f2s. The point is if you want a Labradoodle and are going to pay 1k plus then you want one with parentage with no history of hip displacement or eye problems for example. If you go and buy one with parents of a non pedigree history then you are wasting your time trying to get a dog with the traits you are looking for.

Bubba po

You're actually telling me that people pay £1000 or more for a mongrel? Are you serious? Or is it a proper, isolated, KC-registered breed now? Are all Labradoodles F1?

The depth of idiocy seems to be more profound than I first thought.

An0n0m0us

They unfortunately do and no a Labradoodle is not a KC registered breed and no they are not all F1.

As pointed out a Labradoodle was originally created for a specific reason in the 70s to allow those allergic to dog hair to be able to own a dog by preventing the dog from dropping hair. That's not a fashion statement but a good reason for the cross breeding. All those crossed with a poodle though have been done so for the same effect and so provide a benefit even if it's just for the owners convenience in not having dog hair in their house.

Other cross breeding may well be just fashion statements if they provide no particular benefit in cross breeding.

The issue of price however is just a simple case of supply and demand and so whilst it is crazy it is what lots of people are happy to pay.

An0n0m0us

Oh and to add something to make you face palm again you would have had an episode I would imagine had you been at the zoo I took my Son to at the weekend. I heard not just one person/family but several refer to the magnificent tiger they were looking at as a lion I thought I might actually have misheard them at first but no they didn't know what they were looking at was actually a tiger I'm not sure there is anyone on Scoobynet THAT thick. Oh and then there were the neanderthals standing next to the gorilla enclosure full of bone dry straw smoking and flicking ash everywhere. So whilst I was expecting to be amazed by the wildlife on show I came away more amazed at the utter stupidity of the imbeciles this country seems to be breeding an ever increasing number of.

GazTheHat

Just mongrels. (Given a fancy name)

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

I dont get who said Pedigree is the way to go, its a Dog thats been arrived at either for Fashion, Aesthetics or Utility, a bit like religion really in that people assume it must be the way to go because they are old.

We are used to Dogs in specific shapes and sizes but these are all man made and a lot of them arent really that great an idea in terms of health, most are find but I had a mate who had two CKC Spaniels and they both died of heart attacks when about six and one was always having seizures due to its head being smaller than its brain, heartbreaking. Our Cocker Spaniel Molly went blind at seven (PRA) despite good KC papers and checks.

I agree that there is a certain amount of fashion involved but there is in everything, I wouldnt spend 50 grand on that new Range Rover but plenty do, so a grand on a Dog isnt that big of a deal, if you think of what you get for that poxy grand over say 12 years it is still a massive bargain. People have a lot of choice nowadays and its up to them how they exercise it and it doesnt mean they are stupid.

Like it or not, people either think a Labradoodle is a breed or care not one iota that it isnt, everyone has heard of them now and broadly know what they are getting.

My issue is with any Dog ownership (Pedigree or Mongrel), people need to go into it realising the commitment and the expense, they need to realise that it isnt a toy or a fashion accessory they can get bored of and stick in a cupboard and they are in it, thick and thin for quite a few years, if they get that right I really dont care what its called or how much it cost.

Spoon

Without getting into this too deeply I can say there are pedigrees and there are pedigrees, much like cars are different. The KC is largely a money making organisation and certainly isn't the be all and end all when it comes to those that know better and aren't actually just looking for a 'pedigree' dog that has a certificate to say so.

The breeders and trainers I deal with daily aim to work dogs out of numerous pedigrees with a suberb, not an OK history, in their line of work. Temperament and drives are more important than looks too, which are 2 aspects of a pedigree that Joe Public know very little about and always seem to assume looks are the only reason for a pedigree. Proven lines for buyers means a waiting list and a premium for puppies from particular parents because they are very sought after. Top level Police, protection and sport work requires a suberb proven bloodline or they may as well use glove puppets.

That said, any dog only wants for the best care it can get from responsible loving owners regardless of its perceived status.

Billy, people part with more money than they should in all walks of life for all sorts of things, through ignorance, it'll never change.

Funkii Munkii

Interesting, are we talking specific allergies here?

Do they not shed hair or leave skin particles around the house ?

An0n0m0us

FM Poodles are not a dog breed that drops much or any hair. Not everyone wants a Poodle and so it was decided to cross various breeds with them to have a selection for those people who wanted non hair shedding dogs.

Have a read here http://www.labradoodle.org.uk/