David Lock

Please don't misquote me.

I am not advocating a softly, softly approach as IMO these sick paedos cannot be rehabilitated short of brain surgery.

I just don't think you can let criminals decide what is right and wrong.

dl

RA Dunk

True, in the end he got what he deserved though.

LUCKO

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being killed so quickly he got off lightly imho. caused severe trauma to several peoples lives which will have a long effect over many years for them

im really pleased he is dead and hope more people like this die soon

GlesgaKiss

Let's hope Tobin has the same fate. Of course, it can't be right in all cases, but what use is the likes of Tobin to anyone? He clearly doesn't care about anything anymore, prison makes no difference. Best just to do away with him and save anyone paying for his keep.

markjmd

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Guys like this belong in secure mental units, not ordinary prisons. Life with no parole, very limited visits, with the option for slightly better conditions if they volunteer to act as human guinea pigs for psychiatric or other medical research. Let's not waste a potentially valuable resource in our haste to exact vengeance on people who more than likely wouldn't even comprehend its purpose.

jonc

So all in all, along with murderers, capital punishment for paedophiles as well then?

lordharding

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He deserved it
Proper justice handed out

David Lock

Well society has a pretty basic decision to make in these things.

Either you have a justice system like we do at present with all its faults or you let the Daily Mail and and/or the public make ad hoc decisions about who deserves what. Might as well support the IRA strategy of kneecapping or permanently disabling people as they see fit or the Taliban for their justice system.

dl

tony de wonderful

I can't say celebrating this makes me feel very comfortable.

ScoobyDriverWannabe

According to one newspaper they said they did it because he was planning to glass one of the guards that the prisoners liked.

Its a hard one to get head around, you think its one less piece of scum on the planet.

It sounds pretty gruesome, apparently after they did it they went and ate breakfast before turning them selfs in. Reminds me of the Silence of the lambs.

I dont think the ones that did it deserve any praise or hero worship either, after all they are inside for a reason also. Apparently one of them broke into an old peoples home and battered 2 old ladies to death.

RobsyUK

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I've always said bring back the death penalty. With dna etc very few cases are now wrongly accused.

Some say that an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. You know what I don't care. If a kid thinks he is gonna be fried for knicking sweets then they won't do it agian..

I've also heard that Peadofilia is like a disorder - they don't know it's wrong it's a mental thing.

In my eyes reguardless if they don't know or not. Every Peado should be hung. There is no cure for these sick ****s and why should we pay to keep them locked up. I hope they all get killed inside or out.. I won't give them a grave either as you know it would say some **** like 'the perfect son'.. They don't deserve a grave.

Grr I'm wount up.

DCI Gene Hunt

This has to be thread of the year.... it's bordering on hilarious, these scumbags break OUR laws and gut someone while in prison and the massive are all in favour of it..... I also like the way some scum are almost "normalised" by quotes such as "regular prisoners don't take kindly to sharing with paedophiles" like battering an old woman to death isn't as bad as being a paedo? In my book they're all the same, scum. If anything prisoners acting like this doesn't make them folk heroes, it makes them potential killers as well.

RA Dunk

This IMO is 'almost' as bad as being a bloody Peado TBH, a pity someone dosen't do this **** in as well.

JTaylor

RA Dunk.

RA Dunk

Killing two old Grannies in an old folks home is pretty ******* warped to me.

JTaylor

Yes.

jef

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thing is theres an easy cure - chemical castration - its just "human rights" intervene, which is more laughable.
i dont agree with many laws in this country as it is - but there nothing i can do about it. many are based on history/tradition and through social acceptance which makes no sense atall, but i accept them or move away.

and people are put in prison for breaking ridiculous laws, eg the naked rambler. just because your in prison doesnt mean your a scum bag. drunken acts of stupidity - where no-one is hurt or affected. i agree murder, malicous acts, and many of the other atrocious crimes require people being locked up to help protect society.

politicians are too scared of loosing seats and support to have any change seen as radical by the press - rather than do the actual right thing. its the media that rule the country not goverments.

the media need much more stringent control when it comes to lies and sensationalism for just pure profit.

just my opinion, others have theres

my opinion on peados probably swayed by the fact that its affected my life directly - so they can all rot in a cell, or be murdered as far as im concerned

David Lock

I hope you appreciate the irony of posting about DNA within hours of an Italian court clearing someone of murder because of dodgy DNA evidence.

The uncomfortable truth about most paedos is that had their brains scrambled as kids as they themselves were abused. This is not an excuse but fact. I don't think their heads can ever be unscrambled and, of course, the original abusers, parent/s or others, never carry the can. So lock them up but it's wrong to hang them. And don't moan about social workers who sometimes try very hard to sort these things out at an early stage.

dl

urban

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Yes both times

urban

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Don't celebrate then, or contribute any further on this thread

TelBoy

What i don't get, is how people get sent to jail for having sex with 15 year olds, but the day they're 16 it's absolutely fine. Just seems so arbitrary.

jef

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tel raised this point before,

its not quite as simple as that i was told - but cant remeber the details, it was a copper on here who told me differently - because that law is totally ridiculous in the way youve described it. but im sure not quite as black and white as that.

An0n0m0us

I'm glad there is one less sicko in the World but how and why it happened is shocking. Firstly if an above suggestion is correct then he was killed for nothing to do with his crime but for threatening to glass a warden - hardly comparable with his actual crime. Secondly disemboweling him is a little more than just killing someone in the heat of the moment such as stabbing them or punching them so hard they die. Disemboweling would have been planned and taken both offenders to carry out and been horrifyingly gruesome. That makes them extremely sick themselves.

They are in no way heroes and the fact that a 'high security' prison can allow such things to happen really begs the question as to just how badly run are these institutions.

Leslie

There is no way that paedophilia which is a wicked crime can ever be excused of course.

The dreadful murder that took place however, committed by those criminals can also never be justified. He had been sentenced to a gaol term according to British law and was quite rightly unlikely to be released either, he was not going to be able to commit such a crime again.

The method used to kill him was indescribably barbaric and the agony he experienced must have been unbearable. Whatever you might think about a paedophile like this man, that action was as far over the top as one can imagine.

Les

bigsinky

Thanks, I thought it might provoke a reaction and it's more or less what I expected. As for the lag who battered the grannies, in my book he is as bad as the paedo he gutted. These people and their ilk offer nothing to society. Blame upbrining, blame the culture, blame the parenting but there is a fundamental understanding of what is right and what is wrong (of course judged by society's standard). Jail does not offer a good enough deterrent. some of these people will either never be rehabilitated or don't want to be. This problem will only get worse and there has to come a time when it will be no longer financially viable to keep these prisoners at the taxpayer's expense. What do we do then? Euthanise the worst offenders? Build a 100ft wall round Wales with watch towers and gun turrets and throw these people in and let them fend for themselves. We are now getting into post apocolyptic Mad Max territory here.

As has been said before bringing back the death penalty is fraught with difficulties, the Knox case this week proving that DNA procedure is not infallible. Was that confession given freely or did the authorities have to waterboard the person to get it.

I dunno what the solution is but there must be something better than our current system.

TelBoy

I don't know much about prisons but i wouldn't mind betting that some reprisals are "less prevented" than others...

An0n0m0us

I have the same opinion and if there had been a threat to a warden then something may well have been allowed/a blind eye turned but a disemboweling seems a little harsh to me.

GlesgaKiss

That's because it is. There isn't any complex logic to it, they just have to draw the line somewhere. But the people saying they'd kill a someone for being a 'paedo' in the case of a fifteen year-old girl, when they'd congratulate a bloke for bedding a sixteen year-old... they're just morons. And there are plenty of them about. There was a thread on Passionford about it recently which provided some amusement (people frothing at the mouth with rage).

One of the posters on there made the point - and I share the view - that a person is only a paedophile if they are attracted to prepubescent children. That's clearly a psychological issue that isn't natural. It's dangerous and illegal because they will usually act without the consent of the child (i.e. rape). Whereas someone having consensual sex with a fifteen year-old, although it may be morally irresponsible and frowned upon, cannot be considered paedophilia. The girl in question may even be more mature than others over the age of consent.

We should be careful about this arbitrary line drawn by law. We need to separate the dangerous from simply being on the wrong side of that line. The latter should not result in the ruining of a person's career (and possibly whole life) with them being branded a 'sex offender' in my opinion.

Hawk aye the noo

Works for me!!!!

smc ste

maybe if all the bad *** crims killed all the paedos thered be more room for car theives aggravated burglers and insurance scammers