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Sounds like youre an installer like me Ant?
I love it when people who havent got a clue try and do an aerial install themselves. Usually ends up in a phone call from their missus on Monday morning along the lines of "my husband has spent all weekend and a small fortune trying to get it to work but it doesnt".
Then I come along and tell them they could have had it done professionally by me for half the cost, with a guarantee and in a 1/4 of the time.
Good luck with it chap, I get the feeling Ant will be answering a LOT of questions on this.
I love it when people who havent got a clue try and do an aerial install themselves. Usually ends up in a phone call from their missus on Monday morning along the lines of "my husband has spent all weekend and a small fortune trying to get it to work but it doesnt".
Then I come along and tell them they could have had it done professionally by me for half the cost, with a guarantee and in a 1/4 of the time.
Good luck with it chap, I get the feeling Ant will be answering a LOT of questions on this.
Dude, I'm genuinely appreciative for all the advice being given and am not trying to undermine your skill but get a grip.
You're making me out to be some clueless Frank Spencer type. Read the post and you'll see that I'm having my loft converted, the builders doing it are top notch. If they can convert a loft I'm sure they can install an aerial safely and effectively following my instructions.
That leaves it up to me to get those instructions right. I'm doing the reading and asking questions when needed. If I can devote enough time to it I'll get it right, if I can't or get bored then I'll pay someone else.
So please don't describe me as somebody 'who doesn't have a clue'
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As I said, get a grip mate. I've already found out which transmitter I use, its bearing to my house and then cross checked it on google earth to see which way the aerial needs to be facing.
My predicted signal strength means a log periodic aerial polarised horizontally should be fine and that a passive splitter rather than an active amplifier should also probably be ok.
I need to cross check all this of course.
The comment of mine you have quoted was tongue in cheek and taken out of context. Once I had done the ground work then in terms of fixing it for a builder it's no big deal. That's my point.
As I said I'm very appreciative of all the kind advice Ant has provided (you have provided none btw). You may like to think this is rocket science but its not.
Last edited by Dingdongler; 14 October 2011 at 06:12 AM.
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Hi Ant
Why do you say log periodic are shocking aerials if you have good signal strength? What would you recommend a Yagi?
I am going to be cautious though and install a variable amplifier anyway, for the amount it costs its a no brainer. I probably won't actually use 6 outputs, I don't have 6 TVs for a start!
I've used this website, www.megalithia.com to draw a line between my house and the Crystal Palace transmitter. The sat pic gives me a very good idea which way to point the aerial so that's a start!
Thanks for your help.
Why do you say log periodic are shocking aerials if you have good signal strength? What would you recommend a Yagi?
I am going to be cautious though and install a variable amplifier anyway, for the amount it costs its a no brainer. I probably won't actually use 6 outputs, I don't have 6 TVs for a start!
I've used this website, www.megalithia.com to draw a line between my house and the Crystal Palace transmitter. The sat pic gives me a very good idea which way to point the aerial so that's a start!
Thanks for your help.
#42
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build quality and signal gain is the biggie, you will not a find a reputable company fit them imo.
Yagi is traditional and the best method.
This is just my professional opinion i would never fit a a log periodic , we did for a few times and had nothing but problems with them.
Yagi is traditional and the best method.
This is just my professional opinion i would never fit a a log periodic , we did for a few times and had nothing but problems with them.
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build quality and signal gain is the biggie, you will not a find a reputable company fit them imo.
Yagi is traditional and the best method.
This is just my professional opinion i would never fit a a log periodic , we did for a few times and had nothing but problems with them.
Yagi is traditional and the best method.
This is just my professional opinion i would never fit a a log periodic , we did for a few times and had nothing but problems with them.
Ant, I found this quite a useful website.
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/aerials.html
They have obviously spent a lot of time putting together loads of info on the subject. My understanding from it was that log periodic would be the right choice for an area with good signal strength, unless I have misunderstood them.
I suppose though I can't guarantee the signal strength, its from a post code checker website.
Thanks again
#44
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I only advise what i would fit on my house and at work as we only fit quality stuff.
Without doing a signal test it's impossible to say how good a signal is.
The rule of thumb is get as much possible signal from the aerial before you go in to the splitter/amp. That's why I recommended what I did.
Without doing a signal test it's impossible to say how good a signal is.
The rule of thumb is get as much possible signal from the aerial before you go in to the splitter/amp. That's why I recommended what I did.
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I only advise what i would fit on my house and at work as we only fit quality stuff.
Without doing a signal test it's impossible to say how good a signal is.
The rule of thumb is get as much possible signal from the aerial before you go in to the splitter/amp. That's why I recommended what I did.
Without doing a signal test it's impossible to say how good a signal is.
The rule of thumb is get as much possible signal from the aerial before you go in to the splitter/amp. That's why I recommended what I did.
Thanks Ant
#46
In terms of high gain post dso that will no longer be an issue most places.
Oh and as for quality the triax 52 you recommended has flimsy Ali elements and plastics that rot and go brittle within a few years.
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I'd rather you argued, then I can get more perspective on the subject!
Ant, the aerial you linked to costs a tenner. The log periodics on www.aerialsandtv.com are £25, I know cost doesn't always equate to quality but the stuff on that website 'looks' really well put together
Ant, the aerial you linked to costs a tenner. The log periodics on www.aerialsandtv.com are £25, I know cost doesn't always equate to quality but the stuff on that website 'looks' really well put together
#49
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I linked you to one that's £21
http://www.dastv.co.uk/shop/high-gai...ain-Bagged.php
They are Ripping you off then
http://www.dastv.co.uk/shop/10-18-el...dic-Aerial.php
http://www.dastv.co.uk/shop/high-gai...ain-Bagged.php
They are Ripping you off then
http://www.dastv.co.uk/shop/10-18-el...dic-Aerial.php
Last edited by Ant; 15 October 2011 at 10:54 AM.
#50
http://www.tvaerials.com/product.aspx?productid=1377
Should do the trick for you, though I should ask where do you live as that is the most important issue in terms of reception and selection of equipment to use.
Should do the trick for you, though I should ask where do you live as that is the most important issue in terms of reception and selection of equipment to use.
Last edited by peter a; 15 October 2011 at 09:07 PM.
#51
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Well, fitted my log periodical aerial yesterday, it feeds into a passive 6 way splitter.
Lovely picture and signal strength is showing 65%+ ie in the good spectrum. After April 2012 when Crystal Palace turns up the signal the strength should be excellent and picture quality even better.
These guys really know what they are talking about and very reasonably priced
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/index.html
Lovely picture and signal strength is showing 65%+ ie in the good spectrum. After April 2012 when Crystal Palace turns up the signal the strength should be excellent and picture quality even better.
These guys really know what they are talking about and very reasonably priced
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/index.html
#53
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Well, fitted my log periodical aerial yesterday, it feeds into a passive 6 way splitter.
Lovely picture and signal strength is showing 65%+ ie in the good spectrum. After April 2012 when Crystal Palace turns up the signal the strength should be excellent and picture quality even better.
These guys really know what they are talking about and very reasonably priced
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/index.html
Lovely picture and signal strength is showing 65%+ ie in the good spectrum. After April 2012 when Crystal Palace turns up the signal the strength should be excellent and picture quality even better.
These guys really know what they are talking about and very reasonably priced
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/index.html
your picture quality will not better with a higher signal.
you must be a in a good signal area, the stuff i recommended is what would of guaranteed to work in all areas.
As for the log periodic aerials the new company i work for want me to fit these and retract my statement, they're great to use in digital switched over areas in the loft
i've not used my roof ladder for over two weeks
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