'Movember' - raising awareness of prostate and testicular cancer
#31
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At the diesel pump...
Posts: 8,677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#34
#39
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 2,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bump for the last few days of Movember. I've ended up with the muskateer look Pics are on my mo page http://mobro.co/MikeWilby
#41
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: 392/361 MY04 STi
Posts: 7,638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#44
It cannot be emphasised enough that if you detect something about yourself that you are uncertain about then you should certainly get it checked by the doctor, even if you are afraid of what he might find.
Your chances of surviving cancer are so much greater if it is detected early and treated before it has a chance to take hold and to spread in your body.
Its a hell of a lot easier to put up with an operation in the first place than to be too late and have to put up with a lingering and painful death.
It costs nothing to go to see a doctor after all!
Les
Your chances of surviving cancer are so much greater if it is detected early and treated before it has a chance to take hold and to spread in your body.
Its a hell of a lot easier to put up with an operation in the first place than to be too late and have to put up with a lingering and painful death.
It costs nothing to go to see a doctor after all!
Les
#48
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
This is my third year running. And i love the fact that i can give something back while looking like a berk.
Heres my page if anyone wants to donate
http://uk.movember.com/mospace/1103272
Heres my page if anyone wants to donate
http://uk.movember.com/mospace/1103272
#52
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
OK, so moving along the sequence/consequences of awareness, if we get men with no symptoms examining their ********* or requesting prostate screening, we would hope it would have been shown to do more good than harm? Without that evidence, would funds be best spent on other messages?
#53
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cas Vegas
Posts: 7,833
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't know John, your probably in a better position to say? I'm right in thinking your a GP? But knowing what a lot of blokes are like with personal things, is it not better getting it checked out rather than leaving it till its too late? isn't Testicular Cancer the biggest killer of adult men?
#54
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
The evidence for testicular self examination and prostate cancer screening is poor, so I do not recommend either. Testicular cancer is very rare, I examine ********* and request ultrasounds frequently and it only feeds the anxieties of the worried well, I've not picked up (or missed) a single testicular cancer in 10 years as a GP which doesn't mean it doesn't need thought, but the elephants in the room for men are smoking, diet, exercise, alcohol. Prostate cancer is very common, but early diagnosis can do more harm than good as only a small proportion die from having it and many more have to be harmed with nasty investigations and treatment to save one life, and you can't tell in advance of treatment who you are going to save. The worried well frequently ask me for testing and I advise against it unless they have symptoms or family history, but I give them the choice. The racial groups more at risk are not represented in my practice population, but I don't think there is evidence for screening them either.
I'd put the money into research on more accurate screening for prostate cancer, maybe the programme does this, but raising awareness seems an odd thing to do when a link between awareness cannot be made with doing more good than harm when you look at the consequences down the line.
Perhaps it seems an odd way of looking at it, but well intentioned or apparently commonsense ideas such as raising awareness might be a waste of time, effort and money?
I'd put the money into research on more accurate screening for prostate cancer, maybe the programme does this, but raising awareness seems an odd thing to do when a link between awareness cannot be made with doing more good than harm when you look at the consequences down the line.
Perhaps it seems an odd way of looking at it, but well intentioned or apparently commonsense ideas such as raising awareness might be a waste of time, effort and money?
Last edited by john banks; 01 November 2012 at 11:02 PM.
#56
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
OK, so moving along the sequence/consequences of awareness, if we get men with no symptoms examining their ********* or requesting prostate screening, we would hope it would have been shown to do more good than harm? Without that evidence, would funds be best spent on other messages?
What would you Health Care CEO like to see the money spent on?
#57
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cas Vegas
Posts: 7,833
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Wife had a mild form of Cancer(BCC) last year, which she lost a small part of her ear, not particularly pleasant and 4 operations, but she has the all clear now. We're expecting our first child next year so we're over the worst and getting on with things again. i just feel like i want to help the cancer cure cause and do my bit
Last edited by ronjeramy; 02 November 2012 at 01:01 AM. Reason: Wrong inicials on type of cancer.
#58
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Yes jef, especially so in that the evidence for prostate screening is even less favourable.
GIBZY, do you think that making healthcare decisions based on evidence is shallow and that instead we should make them on the basis of popularity?
GIBZY, do you think that making healthcare decisions based on evidence is shallow and that instead we should make them on the basis of popularity?
#59
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: here, there, everywhere
Posts: 3,111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ultimately if screening doesnt reduce "quality" life then i personally wouldnt be screened. But suppose its a personal choice. didnt realise the over diagnosis problem covered other cancers.
investment in screening techniques would seem a positive move however, if it results in real world benefits.
#60
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
It is a personal choice, but with no national screening programme it tends to produce a scattergun approach where the worried well ask for screening after awareness campaigns, raising expectation which is then deflating to oppose.