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Old 13 November 2011, 04:25 PM
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Old 13 November 2011, 06:47 PM
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Absolutely as play fighting is one of the best ways a dog quickly realises who the boss is.
Always play fight will all my dogs from a puppy, the very occasional time my latest dog, a Springer catches my finger she stops immediately
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Cracking dogs you have there, as I've said before. Very wolf-like, probably even more so than my pal's husky. They look bigger too? What are the main differences?
Malamute = Husky (On Steroids)
Husky = Malamute (On Speed)

A malamute is generally 1.5 - 2x the weight of a husky. Bigger, taller, stockier.

Huskies ears are pointier and on the top of the head, a mals are more on the side. Mals only have brown eyes, husky can have brown, blue, mix, clear.

Without going off on one, that's the differences. Our malamute is only 10m old and already 40kg. Dwarves the huskies and most mals we've met, yet everywhere we go everyone goes "Ahhhh....husky!"
Old 13 November 2011, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Ah but vicious by sight and word of mouth only. A truly vicious dog is a liability and no dogs used for the Police, Forces or prison work etc are vicious. They are trained to simulate aggression which is actually a game to them. A calm, fearless, level headed temperament is key to a good working dog. An aggressive dog is useless and dangerous.
I don't doubt the dogs I saw were perfectly behaved when with their handlers but i'm just going on what I saw and that was them in a pack in an enclosure. I was in a small group of people with one of the handlers walking us through and the pack acted in what I consider a vicious way, all had jowls extensively raised whilst growling and barking (more snapping than barking). A bit like this look:



So it might be show/simulated aggression (they might even have been wound up on purpose for show) but I bet that if i'd walked into that enclosure I would have found out it wasn't simulation and I wouldn't have lasted very long! This was also 20 years ago so things may have changed a bit since then regarding training/behaviour in professionally worked dogs?

Anyway the point for me is that no dogs I come across that attempt to attack me or my dog when we are out (and unfortunately plenty do for some reason including a German Shepherd and the worst being a Border Collie that should be at the very least muzzled) am I scared by but the memory of those MP dogs has stuck with me ever since.
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Malamute = Husky (On Steroids)
Husky = Malamute (On Speed)

A malamute is generally 1.5 - 2x the weight of a husky. Bigger, taller, stockier.

Huskies ears are pointier and on the top of the head, a mals are more on the side. Mals only have brown eyes, husky can have brown, blue, mix, clear.

Without going off on one, that's the differences. Our malamute is only 10m old and already 40kg. Dwarves the huskies and most mals we've met, yet everywhere we go everyone goes "Ahhhh....husky!"
Nice summary, could not have put it better myself. The aaaah husky bit got on my nerves for so long, I prefer the funnier reactions, like instantanious crying lol.
Old 14 November 2011, 11:52 AM
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First thing I do every night when I get home from work is have a wrestle with my bulldog on the rug. He loves it!
Old 14 November 2011, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Nice summary, could not have put it better myself. The aaaah husky bit got on my nerves for so long, I prefer the funnier reactions, like instantanious crying lol.
Was talking to a guy in the park whose Dog was playing with mine, they were playing catch and his was getting a bit put out as Rambo (Our Mongrel) is like a bloody remote control car, never seen anything change direction, spin, jump and feint like it.

His dog he said, was one of 500 in the world and is part Malamute, part Husky and Part Wolf, cant remember what he called this Wolf-mongrel but it kind of looked like a big, Wolfy Alsatian, he didn't seem impressed when I said I thought it was a Husky/GSD cross. It started off friendly but started turning a bit when he couldn't catch and subdue Rambo, it did seem to be getting quite frustrated and aggressive, suspect Rambo would have come off badly but it was struggling to get near him and fell over on the mud which I think really pissed it off

Rambo is a bugger with the chasing, I swear I have seen him deliberately lead another Dog, intent on catching him into a crash, he did it with a Labradoodle, pelted headlong at the Labradoodles owners and turned at the last moment sending the bigger and less agile dog piling into its owners, it did look deliberate but in reality he is too thick to do anything so smart, sometimes he comes a cropper if the other dog is smarter and there is a Border Collie/Whippet (I think) cross that is near enough as quick but that bit smarter, well a lot smarter and he gets shut down and cant rely on speed and agility, little pea brain doesnt have the cunning.
Old 14 November 2011, 01:45 PM
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So his is a mongrel too then lol.
Sounds like a bit of an arrogant **** to me.

Rambo sounds like a right little f**ker too lol
Old 14 November 2011, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
I prefer the funnier reactions, like instantanious crying lol.
Yeah, had that once. The kid had a boxer in their family too. Plus plenty of screams. "So beautiful/handsome" outweigh "the aaah husky!"...barely.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
His dog he said, was one of 500 in the world and is part Malamute, part Husky and Part Wolf, cant remember what he called this Wolf-mongrel but it kind of looked like a big, Wolfy Alsatian
That'll probably be a Northern Inuit. It is actually those 3 breeds. Rare, yes. 1 of 500 I don't think so! There's a guy who stopped me when he saw my mal, he had 3 in the back of his jeep. They were very striking, more husky-esque.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Inuit_Dog

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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Yeah, had that once. The kid had a boxer in their family too. Plus plenty of screams. "So beautiful/handsome" outweigh "the aaah husky!"...barely.
Handsome, beautiful and gorgeous provoke instant cuddles from mine, so god forbid anyone calling the male any of the above in his presence

The scariest reaction was for someone to blindly step out into the road to swerve us. She came SO close to being under a bus it was unreal. No one had time to react.

But back to the fighting side of things. I love a good rumble with mine, did have some video somewhere of me under them fighting. I made a great come back lol. A play fight in public can be fun too, if you make it look like the dog is attacking you.
Old 14 November 2011, 02:11 PM
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Isn't there a cross breed of German Shepherd and Timber Wolf that is popular in the US but illegal to own over here? It looks all wolf and is simply stunning.
Old 14 November 2011, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
So his is a mongrel too then lol.
Sounds like a bit of an arrogant **** to me.

Rambo sounds like a right little f**ker too lol
Yes, he can be, generally a very easy Dog to live with, I think people forget that even a small Dog is a lot of Dog, I couldnt cope with two like yours with all that walking, we walk Rambo daily, 40 mins to an hour but dont think I would feel like two or three times a day, I think a lot of people dont realise the commitment required to own something like that and ignore the advice because they want something impressive looking, you sound like its pretty much your life though !
Old 14 November 2011, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Malamute = Husky (On Steroids)
Husky = Malamute (On Speed)

A malamute is generally 1.5 - 2x the weight of a husky. Bigger, taller, stockier.

Huskies ears are pointier and on the top of the head, a mals are more on the side. Mals only have brown eyes, husky can have brown, blue, mix, clear.

Without going off on one, that's the differences. Our malamute is only 10m old and already 40kg. Dwarves the huskies and most mals we've met, yet everywhere we go everyone goes "Ahhhh....husky!"
Cheers. I did actually google it after I asked and everything I found said pretty much the same thing as you. Think huskies are a bit more lively too? Although my mate has brought his up very well... never expected them to be so good around people.

I'd love a dog but just don't have the time at the moment.
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Cheers. I did actually google it after I asked and everything I found said pretty much the same thing as you. Think huskies are a bit more lively too? Although my mate has brought his up very well... never expected them to be so good around people.

I'd love a dog but just don't have the time at the moment.
Both breeds are like a light switch. Happy to be solitary and lay about, but I the pack if up for action, so are they, for as long as you can keep going for. Tuvaaq will run for a bit the lay down. Keep running, and he will too.

Both breeds are like any other dog, as good as their up bringing. And a bit of their breeding.
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Most of the british "wolf" dogs are Utonagans....

Basically a wolfalike GSD...But with no wolf content...

Some breeders bred in Czech Saarlouis wolfdogs,these had actual Carpathian wolf in the blood line and were no good as a domestic pet...Although many people have had them..
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Think huskies are a bit more lively too? Although my mate has brought his up very well... never expected them to be so good around people.

I'd love a dog but just don't have the time at the moment.
Aye deffo! Not many husky owners will let their dog off lead for fear of non-return. They, so i've found, are well behaved around people, still a few traits true to their "northern" breed.

We'll be increasing our pack probably next year. Part of me would like a husky, but there's still something about the malamutes that wants me to get another.

Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
I'd love a dog but just don't have the time at the moment.
Very wise words. These dogs require even more attention than others. It is truly shocking the amount that are up for re-homing because the people didn't research the breed and the once cute pup, is a destructive, aggressive dog because he's left 8 hours a day!

Our pup is spoilt as i'm at home nearly every day and he's only left a few hours every now and again. Even then a trainer might be moved to the garden or something (paper) gets shredded.

I'd use to drive everywhere previously. Now i'm enjoying walking everywhere and having a different shaped shadow. I can't leave the room without my pup checking where i am.
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Get another Mal, get a rescue
Mine dont go off lead in an open area, little bastids
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Do they just **** off and not come back ?
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Do they just **** off and not come back ?
They are not known best for their recall lol.
Some however are very good at it, but most people I know limit their trust.

http://youtu.be/PR_V-H4hclE

My puppies having a little play last night.
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Originally Posted by Snazy
They are not known best for their recall lol.
Some however are very good at it, but most people I know limit their trust.

http://youtu.be/PR_V-H4hclE

My puppies having a little play last night.
Funny, they sound pretty serious but obvious they arent, Rambo was offered the chance to provide a reaction video as normally he goes mental for Dogs on screen but there were rumours of a pie cooking which distracting him somewhat. Not sure I want him on Scoobynet actually, allready have jackos mate, not sure we need J4CKOS's Dog as well.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Funny, they sound pretty serious but obvious they arent, Rambo was offered the chance to provide a reaction video as normally he goes mental for Dogs on screen but there were rumours of a pie cooking which distracting him somewhat. Not sure I want him on Scoobynet actually, allready have jackos mate, not sure we need J4CKOS's Dog as well.
Aana (the one doing all the noise) can sound far more serious, but means nothing. She will stop once she is told its over. Out of the 2 she makes more of an audiable impression, where as Tuvaaq does the physical presence thing.

lol @ a pie causing a distraction.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Do they just **** off and not come back ?
Most huskies just bolt and wont come back. You'll rarely see a Husky off lead. Malamutes can be hit/miss, but generally better. Ours is off at some point on every walk, sometimes completely. He never normally ventures more than 20m away, always checking we're still coming.

His recall, well, iffy if i'm honest (7/10). If he's behind, i can whistle and he'll come flying back (9/10). If there's distractions (dogs/people) then there's every chance he'll go to them. Best way i've found is to run the other way and call if i desperately need him back.

He's been taught the sledding commands from day 1, so "Whoah" slows him down and "Stop" does just that. They work almost about 95%. As he's usually in front, i call him to "stop" and walk to him. That works very well for us, so recall is not so much an issue. Some walks are single track roads, so stop is good, as is "in", where he'll go into the verge and wait.

I don't know whether he's just a scaredy-cat and doesn't want to venture out of sight, or whether we've just taught him well. I like to think the latter who knows. I'm guessing when our pack grows we'll find out.
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Funny how breeds have traits like that, sometimes that no matter what training they get you cant stop, this is why people really need to know what they are getting, Husky's are stunning dogs but they arent for everyone, going from say a Lab to one is probably akin to going from a Mondeo to a TVR Cerbera as an ownership proposition, i.e. manageable and safe if you are skilled, dilligent and on top of things but liable to end in disaster if you arent.

I think part of the reason so many Staffs get abandoned is that, despite their loyalty and nature they do have prey instincts and can be Dog agressive, plus the average cretin who gets one because he thinks it enhances is manhood couldnt cope with a Sony Aibo responsibility wise anyway.
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Very wise words. These dogs require even more attention than others. It is truly shocking the amount that are up for re-homing because the people didn't research the breed and the once cute pup, is a destructive, aggressive dog because he's left 8 hours a day!

Our pup is spoilt as i'm at home nearly every day and he's only left a few hours every now and again. Even then a trainer might be moved to the garden or something (paper) gets shredded.

I'd use to drive everywhere previously. Now i'm enjoying walking everywhere and having a different shaped shadow. I can't leave the room without my pup checking where i am.
I know of someone who has two huskies in a two bed ex-council flat. Doubt they are ever walked, and they'll certainly not be trained in any way. Their upbringing would consist of just pretty much feeding them and not much else in the way of training, etc! It's dogs like that that attack people/kids. They just don't know how to behave because they've never been shown.

Would definitely want to do it properly if I was getting a dog. I'm self-employed and am outside most days, so it wouldn't be too much trouble having one, but it's the shortage of time (as I said) to dedicate to them and the fact I'd be tied down in some respects as far as going out is concerned. And when I'm only 24 I'm not really wanting that hassle. If I settle down I'll get one.

Some folk I know have dobermans that are really easy going, they quite surprised me. If I was going to get anything I'd probably go for one of them. Saying that, I might just end up getting something poofy like a retriever 'cos it's easy. Husky for me, if I did have the time etc, would be too much as far as activity, casting, and so on, is concerned. But nice dogs!
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While the Vet fingered my dog this is what he said:

Play fighting with your dog is good for the bond of the pack and he advises it. He then continued to pull his finger out and poo squirted out.. LOL
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
While the Vet fingered my dog this is what he said:

Play fighting with your dog is good for the bond of the pack and he advises it. He then continued to pull his finger out and poo squirted out.. LOL
All read while popping my kiev open eating dinner
lol
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Don't think my greyhound has even got it in her to play fight! Cuddles and kisses yes fight no. Might be the breed not sure? It would be nice to here from somebody else who owns a greyhound to see if there's play fights. I think the saying goes " fight or flight" and she with out a doubt is a flighter.
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here are my 2 mongs play fight all the time and stop on command very well behaved on and off the lead, only one will thing will distract them! food! ha ha
there 8 months old at the min 1 male 1 femals buddy and missy



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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
Don't think my greyhound has even got it in her to play fight! Cuddles and kisses yes fight no. Might be the breed not sure? It would be nice to here from somebody else who owns a greyhound to see if there's play fights. I think the saying goes " fight or flight" and she with out a doubt is a flighter.
I have read that they arent the most playful, sometimes a little aloof, strong prey instinct and very loyal, they dont like loud noises and being hassled by small kids.


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