Now that Cameron has regained our independance, can we send all the foreigners back..
11 December 2011, 04:18 PM
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Not simple at all. I know a lad from Romania who packs boxes for minimum wage. He came over just in time for his pregnant girlfriend to have her baby on the NHS. What do you say, no sorry,not been here for 5 years, have the baby in the street. They are bringing over sick relatives to get treated on the NHS. I know, i work in warehousing where this is rife.
To add to my earlier comments. NHS available for emergency treatment BUT you MUST have medical insurance to cover both that and any other treatment you may want or need. Not allowed in with pre-existing conditions that require treatment/are infectious.
As I said, simples!
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11 December 2011, 04:21 PM
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a friend of mine is proof , he has 5kids and lives in rented , he got a job taxi driving 42-46hours a week and was 16quid a week worse off . now i don't mind working to be £70 a month better off but im'e fuked if i would do 42hours to be worse off
11 December 2011, 06:49 PM
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and tax on the above in this country about £125 . child benefit for 3 kids £187 every 4 weeks . and there lies the problem , immigrant workers with 3 or more children are claiming more than they pay in tax . thats not to say they won't go home end of march and reclaim the whole years tax ltfao at us
about £70quid a week
11 December 2011, 07:59 PM
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Having worked with many Poles and Slovaks in warehousing a few years ago I have seen much of the negativity. Claiming benefits falsely, living 6-8 up in flats, houses etc, coming to work stinking of booze. Generally they didn't work any harder than us 'whities' but were easy to ship over, work 3 months probation, not hit targets, get let go and work across the road where my mrs worked.
Good example my mrs heard. Polish lass in jobcentre was talking to a 'customer service advisor' about claiming as a single mother when she was a) married b) had no kids
Couldn't make it up
Sure there ate positive stories but I'm yet to find they out weigh the negative ones in my area in lower paid jobs. It's a shame when you consider the amount of British 'whities' sponging as it is
Good example my mrs heard. Polish lass in jobcentre was talking to a 'customer service advisor' about claiming as a single mother when she was a) married b) had no kids
Couldn't make it up
Sure there ate positive stories but I'm yet to find they out weigh the negative ones in my area in lower paid jobs. It's a shame when you consider the amount of British 'whities' sponging as it is
11 December 2011, 08:55 PM
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Having worked with many Poles and Slovaks in warehousing a few years ago I have seen much of the negativity. Claiming benefits falsely, living 6-8 up in flats, houses etc, coming to work stinking of booze. Generally they didn't work any harder than us 'whities' but were easy to ship over, work 3 months probation, not hit targets, get let go and work across the road where my mrs worked.
Good example my mrs heard. Polish lass in jobcentre was talking to a 'customer service advisor' about claiming as a single mother when she was a) married b) had no kids
Couldn't make it up
Sure there ate positive stories but I'm yet to find they out weigh the negative ones in my area in lower paid jobs. It's a shame when you consider the amount of British 'whities' sponging as it is
Good example my mrs heard. Polish lass in jobcentre was talking to a 'customer service advisor' about claiming as a single mother when she was a) married b) had no kids
Couldn't make it up
Sure there ate positive stories but I'm yet to find they out weigh the negative ones in my area in lower paid jobs. It's a shame when you consider the amount of British 'whities' sponging as it is
However, they are more content to do the more menial stuff,.......for a while.
As for wages, my friend from Romania was a school teacher, maths to secondary school kids. £170 a month he earn't. Is the cost of living cheaper in Romania, some things are, some not. For example he paid £25 a year car insurance. A bag of sugar though, is more expensive than in the UK. Ipods are a total luxury. He now earns 1k a month packing boxes, which is about 6 times his old wage. He lives with his GF, two kids, mum and dad.
Why did he come over here, because in Romania you exist, not live. Secondly, huge corruption in Romania. He missed the birth of his first kid because he couldn't afford to bribe the doctor who delivered it.
11 December 2011, 09:06 PM
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Was that a political statement or a comment on the grammar and typographical errors?
Regarding the former I suspect myself and the Guardian are a bit like Halley's Comet and the Earth - only vaguely in conjunction about every 70 years
Regarding the former I suspect myself and the Guardian are a bit like Halley's Comet and the Earth - only vaguely in conjunction about every 70 years
11 December 2011, 09:47 PM
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Dude, we have both once worked for the same company (starts with a B,me no longer) and i totally agree. I'm sick of hearing they work harder. in my experience they are the same as everyone, no better, no worse.
However, they are more content to do the more menial stuff,.......for a while.
As for wages, my friend from Romania was a school teacher, maths to secondary school kids. £170 a month he earn't. Is the cost of living cheaper in Romania, some things are, some not. For example he paid £25 a year car insurance. A bag of sugar though, is more expensive than in the UK. Ipods are a total luxury. He now earns 1k a month packing boxes, which is about 6 times his old wage. He lives with his GF, two kids, mum and dad.
Why did he come over here, because in Romania you exist, not live. Secondly, huge corruption in Romania. He missed the birth of his first kid because he couldn't afford to bribe the doctor who delivered it.
However, they are more content to do the more menial stuff,.......for a while.
As for wages, my friend from Romania was a school teacher, maths to secondary school kids. £170 a month he earn't. Is the cost of living cheaper in Romania, some things are, some not. For example he paid £25 a year car insurance. A bag of sugar though, is more expensive than in the UK. Ipods are a total luxury. He now earns 1k a month packing boxes, which is about 6 times his old wage. He lives with his GF, two kids, mum and dad.
Why did he come over here, because in Romania you exist, not live. Secondly, huge corruption in Romania. He missed the birth of his first kid because he couldn't afford to bribe the doctor who delivered it.
I have no qualms about mentioning their name on here now my legal business is over and done with Within a couple of years of me losing my job on medical capability grounds they lost the Scunthorpe contract with Nisa to DHL, losing a lot of management in the process, which cheered me up
Nothing better than seeing your old Hitler shift leaders joining the jobcentre que 
Believe it or not they started recruiting from Slovakia after even the Polish refused to work there as it was so ****
The Poles as above would come over, do 3 months probation/training, not hit targets but be paid over £1200 a month, save a load, leave and go work in an "easy" bacon factory/other min wage job. So the Slovaks came in, realised it was terrible, did the same as the Poles and Bibbys turned to Romanians after they joined up You'd think the company would have clicked on - but they didn't, workforce was moraless (is that a word Scoobynet spell checker), targets were missed by miles, enforced overtime skived and contract caput to DHL
Oh how I laughed
Me, bitter - ******* damn right but a little cheer at some ***** expense
Now, back to the thread.......
11 December 2011, 09:51 PM
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Not read the whole thread, but this appeared on my Facebook and seemed poignant.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...book-dailymail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...book-dailymail
11 December 2011, 10:05 PM
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Not read the whole thread, but this appeared on my Facebook and seemed poignant.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...book-dailymail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...book-dailymail
Sorry, but I had to laugh at - 'Portuguese-born Mr Franco, who came to Britain in 2000 and is a fluent English speaker'.
11 December 2011, 10:13 PM
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11 December 2011, 10:23 PM
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Just going back to post 37 by henrick..... I've never claimed a penny in benefit (Child benefit goes to the mother) but......
I pay about £34,000 in deductions PAYE on my payslip a year but live in a household with a non working adult (wife) so my household is a net drain on society as the Govt spend about £22,000 from direct taxation for each adult on health, benefits, defence etc.
On those figures I am no better than many of the people you mention
Shaun
I pay about £34,000 in deductions PAYE on my payslip a year but live in a household with a non working adult (wife) so my household is a net drain on society as the Govt spend about £22,000 from direct taxation for each adult on health, benefits, defence etc.
On those figures I am no better than many of the people you mention
Shaun
11 December 2011, 10:27 PM
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Just going back to post 37 by henrick..... I've never claimed a penny in benefit (Child benefit goes to the mother) but......
I pay about £34,000 in deductions PAYE on my payslip a year but live in a household with a non working adult (wife) so my household is a net drain on society as the Govt spend about £22,000 from direct taxation for each adult on health, benefits, defence etc.
On those figures I am no better than many of the people you mention
Shaun
I pay about £34,000 in deductions PAYE on my payslip a year but live in a household with a non working adult (wife) so my household is a net drain on society as the Govt spend about £22,000 from direct taxation for each adult on health, benefits, defence etc.
On those figures I am no better than many of the people you mention
Shaun
What's your address?
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11 December 2011, 10:30 PM
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11 December 2011, 11:04 PM
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Blimey Zip.......can I marry your wife as that puts her on £150K a year plus I live in Cumbria which is a third world economy, if it wasn't for Sellafield we would be in deep poo
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I saw a program on the TV (OK Iknow it was the telly) and tried to follow it up with some digging and it does seem that the UK spends an absolute fortune on benefit, education, health, defence etc and we seem to have been spending quite a bit more than we earn .......
Shaun
I live in Cumbria which is a third world economy, if it wasn't for Sellafield we would be in deep poo Paulr
I saw a program on the TV (OK Iknow it was the telly) and tried to follow it up with some digging and it does seem that the UK spends an absolute fortune on benefit, education, health, defence etc and we seem to have been spending quite a bit more than we earn .......
Shaun
12 December 2011, 01:10 PM
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12 December 2011, 04:24 PM
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Just going back to post 37 by henrick..... I've never claimed a penny in benefit (Child benefit goes to the mother) but......
I pay about £34,000 in deductions PAYE on my payslip a year but live in a household with a non working adult (wife) so my household is a net drain on society as the Govt spend about £22,000 from direct taxation for each adult on health, benefits, defence etc.
On those figures I am no better than many of the people you mention
Shaun
I pay about £34,000 in deductions PAYE on my payslip a year but live in a household with a non working adult (wife) so my household is a net drain on society as the Govt spend about £22,000 from direct taxation for each adult on health, benefits, defence etc.
On those figures I am no better than many of the people you mention
Shaun
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