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Old 21 December 2011, 09:36 AM
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thanks, just sent him an email. May be worth looking into a group buy, who else would be interested in a bolt-in rear cage that bolts to existing mounting points?
Old 21 December 2011, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Few ideas at the moment guys.

Personally i think most people here with newage cars wanting a cage will not be competeing. Theyre most likely fast road/trackday guys that want a little extra should the worst happen.

With that in mind im thinking a bolt in a rear cage very much GT3 RS/R26-R style.
This will also be acceptable on the roads for most, as it poses no danger to the driver and insurance companies should also not throw a paddy about it.

My other idea is a full blown cage, but this is something i need to discuss with my cage builder. Its about time us newage boys had something available.

Obviously the MSA compliance will be looked into regarding the full cage.

Personally ive built my car as a fast road car with a track orientated theme, so the GT3 RS style, fit, finish and fuction is where im aiming at.

I'll keep you all posted in the new year.
I want one !
Old 21 December 2011, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Few ideas at the moment guys.

Personally i think most people here with newage cars wanting a cage will not be competeing. Theyre most likely fast road/trackday guys that want a little extra should the worst happen.

With that in mind im thinking a bolt in a rear cage very much GT3 RS/R26-R style.
This will also be acceptable on the roads for most, as it poses no danger to the driver and insurance companies should also not throw a paddy about it.

My other idea is a full blown cage, but this is something i need to discuss with my cage builder. Its about time us newage boys had something available.

Obviously the MSA compliance will be looked into regarding the full cage.

Personally ive built my car as a fast road car with a track orientated theme, so the GT3 RS style, fit, finish and fuction is where im aiming at.

I'll keep you all posted in the new year.
There's going to be some real demand for this if it's done properly.

What Safety Devices have done on their bolt in track day rear cage is create a solid platform for the rear stays using a tube that mounts to the lower rear seatbelt hole and upper rear strut tower bolts (see photos). This looks like a great way of doing it.

What I HATE about their design is that the main hoop isn't located at all (only by the supporting un-triangulated frame). It would be far better to locate the main hoop using the existing holes designed for the front seatbelts (as per the Renault Clio 200 example).
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Old 21 December 2011, 11:54 AM
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I wouldn't bother developing a full on cage, the market is already well served with Safety Devices and Custom Cages both offering FIA and MSA approved cages.
Old 21 December 2011, 05:06 PM
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yep , frayz , intrested in half / porsche idea . could be a winner !
Old 22 December 2011, 11:15 AM
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Yep, i would also like to see it pickup on the upper seatbelt points on the B pillar. Also i dont think there is any point in doing one that allows the rear seats to stay in situe. After all, nobody will use them.
Incorportaed harness bar will also be in there.

Like i said guys, this wont happen over night but is my plans to get something moving early in the new year. it WILL happen.
Old 22 December 2011, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Yep, i would also like to see it pickup on the upper seatbelt points on the B pillar. Also i dont think there is any point in doing one that allows the rear seats to stay in situe. After all, nobody will use them.
Incorportaed harness bar will also be in there.

Like i said guys, this wont happen over night but is my plans to get something moving early in the new year. it WILL happen.
Sign me up frayz I am in need of a little more frayz engineering.

(I also have some areo catches to fit in the new year when my car comes back to life for the early summer if your still up for it)
Old 22 December 2011, 08:38 PM
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Sure thing Chris, Aerocatches no problem
Old 22 December 2011, 08:41 PM
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Sounds like a good idea with the upper seat belt mounts, the more location points the better. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
Old 22 December 2011, 08:47 PM
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Got a Cusco 6 point roll cage if anyone is interested. Will fit Bugeyes & maybe other newage models.
Old 15 January 2012, 01:42 PM
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Thought i would give this a wee bump so we could generate some more interest
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