dpb

Hes all ready had our money !

Frosticles

iTrader: (1)

Pathetic. The ****** wins as per.

Leslie

Of course they will charge the big man.

Its a nice easy conviction and the tick in the box will tot up the targets for the month.

Don't ever expect them to look at the situation with a common sense outlook!

Les

jef

iTrader: (13)

its a discrace hes being charges, total nonsense.

but from the interveiw i heard the fare dodger said he wasnt offered the chnce to buy another ticket as hed bought the wrong one, but said he was prepaired to pay for the right one but wasnt given the chance. now thats obviously what hes going to say on camera whether true or not, no-one knows.

if he had any common decency about him he should immediatley ask for charges to be dropped and forget about it, problem is he will be under pressure from every money making claims outfit trying to abuse the system to rape it of money. they dont give a fck about anything apart from abusing the laws to steal money.
again its this sueing culture inherited from good ol usa thats making this country such a fck up, and ruining the lives of normal people. its a country now of get it up everyone else to get as much money as possible

well done all you greedy bastrds

dpb

Even gets frees tuition

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

What people are forgetting here is that not having a valid ticket for travel (certainly in the UK, not sure about Scotland) can land you with a criminal record for fare dodging. The kid's attitude was so obnoxius towards an old man that I would suggest if this goes to court a good brief will get him off on the basis that he acted in defence of the man to stop a breach of the law; either in respect of the fare dodging matter or a public order offence. Dont be surprised if he gets off..... Lots of room for a some creative legal jiggery pokery here!

Lets just hope the railway aggressively persue the kid for fare dodging eh?

jef

iTrader: (13)

did he not offer to buy the correct ticket then? is that not on film?

ive not had a good look at vid

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Didn't hear it when I watched the video, mate.. he was protesting that he had the correct ticket and refusing to get off the train to buy another one. Of course, whether they video was edited etc... no idea.

scud8

iTrader: (1)

He was on the train without a valid ticket, so is being charged with trespass. I hope the "big man" gets off - he should given he clearly asks the conductor "do you want me to get him off for you" and the conductor replies "yes".

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

I totally agree he shouldn't be charged, BUT the big man assaulted the little ***** .. and if the police didnt act, they would be turning a blind eye to a crime, because the "victim" had himself committed a crime .. I would be Very surprised if this goes to court ...

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

scud8

iTrader: (1)

In english law it's debatable whether he assaulted him. There is a common law right to evict trespassers using reasonable force and the exchange with the conductor means he had every reason to believe he was acting with the landowners consent. The idiot only got injured when he tried to jump back on the train and was pushed back off - if he hadn't resisted he would have been fine.

pslewis

Can he ask to be tried by Jury?

If so, it will be a simple let-off ...

Lee247

This Country is a joke
I would imagine most of the public are behind "Big Man", so surely, common sense will prevail.

GazTheHat

That's pathetic!

Leslie

It would amongst sensible people of course, but do you think it will amongst the prosecutors and the judiciary?

Les

LeeMac

iTrader: (1)

I think i'm the only one who has looked at this from the lads side rather than from the headline type of reader

the lad said he had bought 2 tickets, one to get there, one to get back
the ticket master gave hime the wrong ticket but he didnt realise until later

the train conductor didnt give him a chance to explain or even buy another

a yob (in my eyes) then takes things into his own hands and throws him off

sorry, but is everyone blinkered here or wot and being taken in by hype

RA Dunk

Whether he was mis-sold a ticket or not at the end of the day he didn't have one to travel on that train, he was asked to leave nicely he didn't, he got all ar$ey with the conductor when he shoulden't have.

If you notice the time it was half nine at night, people just want to get home after working late, shopping, banging hookers or what ever they might have been doing, then this little dipsh1t starts being a **** and holding everybody up.

IMO he got what he deserved.

dpb

He was therefore still travelling without a ticket , if he'd subsequently politely proffered readies to buy one off the conductor maybe be okay - i dont think he was polite

LeeMac

iTrader: (1)

so, guilty until proved otherwise

me, i'd have given the lad the benefit of the doubt, as you say people just want to get home

we have all been a little ar$ey while being under the influence

the conductor obviously didnt have the nouse to just let the train get on its way and then perhaps deal with the lad whilst enroute

people are generally not polite nowadays in what ever situation

specialx

I heard an interview with the man that filmed the video he said he only started to record the young lad after 5 mins of abuse he had hurled at the conductor.

When you buy a train ticket the machine only pumps out what you have paid for, again if it was an error or he was given the wrong ticket explain this (nicely) to the conductor and go from there, if you want to be really PC about it he should of purchased another ticket and then complained at the next station.

Unfortunately in today's society people who are blatantly in the wrong will still argue black is white and expect special treatment!

All the rewards with no responsibly!

Leemac what would you have done if it were you? I doubt your actions would have been the same as this young lads.

I'm royally pissed off with nobh**ds that are alowed to go through life inconveniencing normal folks, in a PC world everyone on that train would of have to wait for the police to arrive holding up their lives for no fault of their own down to a t**ser!

He had no ticket through whatever fault so from that point on take responsibility for it and do not inconvenience everyone else!


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RA Dunk

Ehh?? He didn't have a bloody ticket to travel on that train he was guilty!

22BUK

Good news

Big man who threw 'fare dodging student' off train will not face prosecution

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

nice, finally the right thing happened. Although who else is going to intervene when you have to go through all of that for just pushing someone off a train who does not have a ticket.

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

"But yesterday, after almost two months with a potential court case hanging over his head, the Crown Office announced its decision to drop the charge as it was not in the public interest".

Good call I reckon.....would have been even better had they charged the ****** for his behaviour though!

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

No wonder people just stand by and watch, good deeds get punished and ******* get off or a spell in a holiday camp.

Problem is the law breakers are in a win win situation, commit a crime and get away with it, win, someone butts in and tries to stop them, claim compensation, win.

There really needs to be some special dispensation for otherwise law abiding citizens helping to enforce the law of the land.

Not sure on the rights and wrongs of the ticket situation, but if you are asked to leave then one should do so.

At least this situation was resolved with a modicum of common sense.

billyray911

iTrader: (4)

Good news indeed.I'm sure that the immediate backlash against the possible prosecution partly showed that this wasn't in the public interest.
Shame it took this long for the Crown Office to give a positive outcome.
I doubt that the CPS would have been that reasonable.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Strangely enough, I got into a discussion with my eldest last night about intervention.

He is 25, and pretty handy. His take: "NEVER EVER intervene, let insurance etc deal with it, if it involves violence call for help, but don't end up dead or injured".

I am nearing 60, short and plump, VERY unfit: "If i saw something kicking off, I WOULD intervene, even with a threat to my personal safety."

Is this a generation thing?

Myles

iTrader: (40)

I was on a bus when two lads at a bus stop abused two black women sat on the bus racially. There were about ten men on the bus including me, mostly with partners. We all stood up and stared the prats down, and they skulked off. Nothing was said at all, but Im glad it didnt escalate and also most importantly that it was fifteen years ago and not in this day and age, for the same reason that the big man was nearly in the big house.

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

No, I'm 29 and would do the same as you, I wouldn't be able to help myself ..

My friend who is 25 saw someone getting punched and ran over to help him, before he reach the lad someone else had floored him and broke his nose ..

Next weekend he did the same thing for someone else, ended up on the floor being kicked .. would he do it again ? every time ..