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Old 27 December 2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Checking the history of an import my be near impossible. How would you know if it's been crashed and repaired or stolen for export?
When they are imported they undergo an inspection an get issued a certificate which denotes the overall condition of the car. This includes accident damage etc etc.
Also, if your lucky you will get all the Jap history. I bought a 95 WRX a few years back which came with a folder of history. Was all in Japenese though, lol.
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
If you look under the intercooler there is a big metal pipe,mainifold I think or something to do with the exhaust,it has a housing round it,and jap cars are known for rotting there,and another place where the metal just "falls off" not long after being in the uk as of our roads,I know Jack **** as you know,just going by what I am told....But in general of course they will be less rust than uk cars,and am I right in saying 300-400 k's lighter?
That piece of metal is a heat shield Jim and rusts ON ALL classics not just imports.

The reason you often see rusty imports is because they were not undersealed when imported...if any car in the UK was not undersealed it would rust, not just an Impreza.

And no Jim, imports are not 300/400KG lighter.
Old 27 December 2011, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
When they are imported they undergo an inspection an get issued a certificate which denotes the overall condition of the car. This includes accident damage etc etc.
Also, if your lucky you will get all the Jap history. I bought a 95 WRX a few years back which came with a folder of history. Was all in Japenese though, lol.
Do you get a jap equivalent of an HPI check? In a language you can actually read lol
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Do you get a jap equivalent of an HPI check? In a language you can actually read lol
Yes buddy, it's called a BIMTA certificate if my memory serves me correctly. Forget what it stands for though.
The certificate means the car is clear to sell and will also have a grade with it denoting condition/history of the car.
Old 27 December 2011, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
If you look under the intercooler there is a big metal pipe,mainifold I think or something to do with the exhaust,it has a housing round it,and jap cars are known for rotting there,and another place where the metal just "falls off" not long after being in the uk as of our roads,I know Jack **** as you know,just going by what I am told....But in general of course they will be less rust than uk cars,and am I right in saying 300-400 k's lighter?
Hi Jimmy.

I think what your referring too is the Turbo heat shield and tend to rust on most classics due to them being right underneath the scoop so gets the water and salt. AFAIK imports are not 300-400 k's lighter.





Regarding history on import's you can be lucky and get one with history. I had a impreza imported for me back in 2005 and said I wanted one with service history, It did take some time for the importer to find one to my spec and it did come with service history from Japan. Only problem is its in Japanese.

I now have a MY04 Spec C which was imported in 2007 and has all service history from Japan.

I have found no difference in the insurance price whether its a UK or JDM. Also if your lucky your car tax might be lower than a UK car of the same model year.
Old 27 December 2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
That piece of metal is a heat shield Jim and rusts ON ALL classics not just imports.

The reason you often see rusty imports is because they were not undersealed when imported...if any car in the UK was not undersealed it would rust, not just an Impreza.

And no Jim, imports are not 300/400KG lighter.
Correct,heat shield !! So how much lighter are they,I was told 300-400 as that is the main reason they are quicker ?
Old 27 December 2011, 10:41 PM
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I dont know about classics but newage STI JDM's have a different gear ratio and tend to be 320bhp ish out the box compared to the UK STI
Old 27 December 2011, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboAndy
Hi Jimmy.

I think what your referring too is the Turbo heat shield and tend to rust on most classics due to them being right underneath the scoop so gets the water and salt. AFAIK imports are not 300-400 k's lighter.





Regarding history on import's you can be lucky and get one with history. I had a impreza imported for me back in 2005 and said I wanted one with service history, It did take some time for the importer to find one to my spec and it did come with service history from Japan. Only problem is its in Japanese.

I now have a MY04 Spec C which was imported in 2007 and has all service history from Japan.

I have found no difference in the insurance price whether its a UK or JDM. Also if your lucky your car tax might be lower than a UK car of the same model year.

I have just logged on to my insurance....My white 1998 2L Turbo was £277.33 per year,and my yellow 1997 WRX Sti (is it,or isn't it?? an STi??) 2L Turbo is £659.00 per year,all the quotes keep saying it's a 2007 and I have to correct them,so I guess that is when it entered the UK...
Old 27 December 2011, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboAndy
Hi Jimmy.

I think what your referring too is the Turbo heat shield and tend to rust on most classics due to them being right underneath the scoop so gets the water and salt. AFAIK imports are not 300-400 k's lighter.

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It wasn't the turbo one mate,it was near the floor right under the inter cooler,if you bent down you would be able to touch it
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
I have just logged on to my insurance....My white 1998 2L Turbo was £277.33 per year,and my yellow 1997 WRX Sti (is it,or isn't it?? an STi??) 2L Turbo is £659.00 per year,all the quotes keep saying it's a 2007 and I have to correct them,so I guess that is when it entered the UK...
Yes 2007 will be the import year.
Old 27 December 2011, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
It wasn't the turbo one mate,it was near the floor right under the inter cooler,if you bent down you would be able to touch it
We talking about a front mount?
Old 27 December 2011, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Yes buddy, it's called a BIMTA certificate if my memory serves me correctly. Forget what it stands for though.
The certificate means the car is clear to sell and will also have a grade with it denoting condition/history of the car.
Isn't BIMTA just a mileage check?
Old 27 December 2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobiepaul
When I got my car nearly three years ago it only had a cat 2 alarm fitted, it came from a small dealer so do you think it had a dodgy mot? It has since passed two mot's without issue.
He is not saying it may have a dodgy MOT because of the alarm, its the other items that shouldn't allow it to pass an MOT in the UK (rear fog, tyres and speedo)
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
It wasn't the turbo one mate,it was near the floor right under the inter cooler,if you bent down you would be able to touch it
The heatshield on the headers that sounds like.
Old 27 December 2011, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
Correct,heat shield !! So how much lighter are they,I was told 300-400 as that is the main reason they are quicker ?
Someone has been feeding you too much BS
If you want to be really disappointed, UK cars are normally lighter than JDM ones

Tony
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Someone has been feeding you too much BS
If you want to be really disappointed, UK cars are normally lighter than JDM ones

Tony
Well Tony,I know jack crap about cars,but I would wage my car on any bet that it is lighter than a UK one,I have been told by several people UK one's are heavier ... JDM's have less sound proofing,lighter metal etc...I MAY be wrong and if I am I stand corrected,tomorrow I will go to the Rugby recycling centre and weigh my car...
Old 27 December 2011, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboAndy
We talking about a front mount?
Yes,think so
Old 27 December 2011, 11:25 PM
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I give up.

Lighter metal !!!!! I've heard it all now.
Has your car got the thinner glass too Jim ?
Old 27 December 2011, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
Well Tony,I know jack crap about cars,but I would wage my car on any bet that it is lighter than a UK one,I have been told by several people UK one's are heavier ... JDM's have less sound proofing,lighter metal etc...I MAY be wrong and if I am I stand corrected,tomorrow I will go to the Rugby recycling centre and weigh my car...
The weight of your car is on the MOT cert i believe !
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
Well Tony,I know jack crap about cars,but I would wage my car on any bet that it is lighter than a UK one,I have been told by several people UK one's are heavier ... JDM's have less sound proofing,lighter metal etc...I MAY be wrong and if I am I stand corrected,tomorrow I will go to the Rugby recycling centre and weigh my car...
You should stop listening to all those muppets down the pub
The only car that has less sound proofing in classic form is the RA, the UK cars are lighter because they dont have as many standard "extra's" like aircon, electric folding mirrors and all the other little goodies that JDM's come with (note ive owned one UK classic, 1 JDM classic and 2 JDM new age STI's), there may not be much in it but the UK ones are in most cases, lighter.
JDM's do not have thinner panels, they are a standard thickness on all subaru's, including the RA's, and note ive been around for quite some time the only subaru that has any light panels apart from the lightweight bonnet is the Spec C and its variants as those have a thinner roof panel.
To put it into perspective, a version 5 STI weight is around 1270kg, a UK is around 1250kg and an STI type RA is around 1240kg.

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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I give up.

Lighter metal !!!!! I've heard it all now.
Has your car got the thinner glass too Jim ?
Don't get stroppey with me young man
NO it bloody hasn't got lighter glass,it's thicker as bulliet proof !! (JOKE!)
THIS IS WHAT I AM TOLD,SO THIS IS WHAT I BELEIVE !!
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Jimmy, Your not getting confused with the classic compared to a newage are you as there is quite a difference in weight there?

Oh, Ive got lightweight glass, lol,

Gaz.

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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
Jimmy, Your not getting confused with the classic compared to a newage are you as there is quite a difference in weight there?
I think subaru also weigh it with 3/4 of a tank of fuel and the driver, actually i think most manufacturers do that too

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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
You should stop listening to all those muppets down the pub
The only car that has less sound proofing in classic form is the RA, the UK cars are lighter because they dont have as many standard "extra's" like aircon, electric folding mirrors and all the other little goodies that JDM's come with (note ive owned one UK classic, 1 JDM classic and 2 JDM new age STI's), there may not be much in it but the UK ones are in most cases, lighter.
JDM's do not have thinner panels, they are a standard thickness on all subaru's, including the RA's, and note ive been around for quite some time the only subaru that has any light panels apart from the lightweight bonnet is the Spec C and its variants as those have a thinner roof panel.
To put it into perspective, a version 5 STI weight is around 1270kg, a UK is around 1250kg and an STI type RA is around 1240kg.

Tony
Fair dinkum Tony,I will certainly take in what you say,I do understand and beleive you,F know's why I was told what I was ! I asked someone who had a 98 with mod's why mine wet the floor with his,he even said the same on the phone just NOW,"it's cos yours is a jap so is lighter"
And I don't go down the pub and don't drink.
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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
Jimmy, Your not getting confused with the classic compared to a newage are you as there is quite a difference in weight there?

Oh, Ive got lightweight glass, lol,

Gaz.
F knows mate,I haven't got a scobbies what the difference is in any of them,yesterday I was told mine is a version 4
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Originally Posted by chopperman
The weight of your car is on the MOT cert i believe !
No,dare I say it....But not on the MOT I have here !! It's a new style one,can't see it if it is
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
No,dare I say it....But not on the MOT I have here !! It's a new style one,can't see it if it is
Ok, they do weigh the car in the mot for the brake test, maybe they dont print it on the cert. Should be on your log book though.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Ok, they do weigh the car in the mot for the brake test, maybe they dont print it on the cert. Should be on your log book though.
It's got Revenue weight,but blank next to it
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Originally Posted by jimmyinrugby
Fair dinkum Tony,I will certainly take in what you say,I do understand and beleive you,F know's why I was told what I was ! I asked someone who had a 98 with mod's why mine wet the floor with his,he even said the same on the phone just NOW,"it's cos yours is a jap so is lighter"
And I don't go down the pub and don't drink.
JDM's normally have more power out of the box and shorter gear ratio's, hence quicker

Tony
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Would it of come with a quick shift gearbox,or would that of been added in the UK ?


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