fatscoobfella1

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Ah yea........Kels...... Went there a few times but what a load of BS it was in there!!

We turned up in my mates brand new 355 Ferrari once,i was driving as he wanted to get on the ale.There was 2 bob slags throwing thereselves at us,and thats no mean feat with me being plug ugly..Of course we didnt take advantage of any of them

The "Braz" as it was known was great...My mate married the owners daughter,and they got the nightclub and bar as a wedding present!!..Can you believe that!!
She was very fit and posh,he used to have a car pitch at BOC on Hyde road selling ****ters to anyone unlucky enought to cross his path...

Anyway,they ran it for a few years and ended up selling it for a cool million quid around 10 years ago IIRC...

I dont know what your worrying about being the 3rd fella in line....Oh....You was kissing the lips on her face i take it ??

Trout

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Just curious - what is alcohol if it is not a drug?

jayallen

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Good video Ding, this takes some beating....great editing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JmX...eature=related

J4CKO

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Doest say much about a ladys mental condition if she is wandering round a bar doing that, that happened in Quaffers as well, very similar, I must have mug written on my forehead.

Thinking about it, I pulled a barmaid from Kels once, she was quite nice looking, blonde with a nice figure, took her home and got busy but she had bad breath, so that was that, should have sealed the deal but it was knocking me sick, I didnt tell her, just dropped her at home and went and cleaned my teeth vigourously.

f1_fan

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Jacko,

Great thread this. People can say what they want about E and the likes, but I defy anyone who was at the Hacienda regularly in the mid 90s to say they were not some of the best nights of their lives.

Thousands of people all dancing like their lives depended on it, full of E and in love with life itself.... you just loved everyone and everything for those few wonderful hours... aside from the drugs gangs warring with each other there was never a single fight at that club in those days.... contrast that to spillout time at Fridays or Quaffers and the likes and then tell me alcohol is less of a problem than pills.

Yes I know the moral majority wil be along to say I am talking bollocks (while they hypocritically get over their hangovers and coughing their rings up from the ciggies they smoked last night), but I don't care. If I could go back and do it again I would no question.

I remember at the time going to the odd night at more conventional clubs... but it all felt a bit lacklustre after FAC 51.

I always think that those who slag it off..... were never there!

MooseRacer

UFO Club at Longleat was always a cracker too, the parties after were awesome. Did the Universe raves as well

speedymonkey

Bowlers at Trafford park in Manchester in the 90's for me (a few years before it closed).
In 2000 started to go to Tangled/Golden/Gatecrasher and numerous smaller nights around Manchester when the music scene was at its best IMO.

In the early days it was mainly doves (usually £15/£16 a pop but they were well worth it) from about 2004/5 onwards the quality dropped in general, but we would buy in bulk when a quality batch was about....I will always remember 'rolex's' from my clubbing days, necked a good load of those, had the right balance of mongyness and pure uplift, fecked loved em!

Personally, they were amongst the best days of my life, always been a massive music fan and I would defo say you missed out if your into music.
In exactly the same way I would think I had missed out if I had never been pissed with my mates on nights out...I don't need booze, it just makes it even more fun

chocolate_o_brian

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You know what I mean you Georgie

Illegal substances shall we say

Dingdongler

That is top dollar! Love it.

I work with a few happy clappy nutters like that, I'm going to show them that vid

Leslie

I am glad to say that the thought of taking mind altering drugs never ever appealed to me so I avoided them completely.

The fact is, they do you no good at all, and can so easily lead you into addiction and all the consequent damage and even eventually into an early death.

I imagine that many take them to bolster themselves up when in a crowd and also they feel they have to go along with what others are doing.

It is perfectly true that if you lead a riotous life getting stoned and also hoovering up the alcohol at every chance, you will regret it in later life when it has affected you badly and you are unable to get any further pleasure out of life just at the time when you are in a financial position to do all those things you could not afford to do earlier in life.

All those good times that you thought you had count for nothing then, all that is in the past, and your future is not what it might have been.

It is just not worth screwing your life up for if you think about it.

Les

JTaylor

...and caffeine.

JTaylor

You define a drug's worth by its legality? Nicotine?

Sy5

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Ecktos I think it was. I still have loads of flyers for lots of the events from 91 to 96.

500

Yes, we were all addicted to MDMA and we have all screwed our lives up


The fact is, I haven't screwed my life up and neither have all of us that have posted up here.

I still get pleasure out of my life and don't need drugs, illegal or not to have a good time out or at home

You can't imagine what it is like if you haven't taken them because it is not imagineable. If you had taken one or two then I could take you seriously. Have you read the article that I posted on page 1?

Just another typical misinformed view!

fatscoobfella1

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Jesus....Forgot about Bowlers....I was too old then really anyway but went there a couple of times..

Doves/Purple ohms/micro dots were £4 each in the day.....lol...

Oh....Used to go to the Hippodrome in Rochdale too....

fatscoobfella1

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I will stand by my last question,you was kissing her face?...lol...

Leslie

I am glad you think that you have not screwed your life up. Hope it stays that way.

Like you I have never needed any kind of artificial stimulation to enjoy life and I have taken part in a very great number of very enjoyable activities which I could not have done if I was addicted in any way. I therefore never bothered to do so. I am still perfecty able to continue to enjoy those activities too.

Perhap's you would like to explain exactly what is justified in the article you mention and why.

It seems to me that if you need to take any substance to artificially induce your outlook on and to increase your experience in life, then I think that is an admission of failure.

We have also seen often enough how using such drugs will so easily lead someone into progressing to harder drugs and eventually total addiction and serious personal damage.

I really don't need to take any such drug myself to understand what it can eventually lead to, that is perfectly well documented of course.

Despite your attempts to belittle what I say, you cannot deny the dangerous and irresistible effects of heavy use of drugs, including alcohol of course, although that can be controlled by sensible consumption.

There are positive dangers in the use of ecstasy as we have seen of course. It is a psychoactive drug which has many effects, many of which are bad.

Can you personally be 100% sure that it has not had some kind of physical or psycological effect on yourself anyway?

Les

Trout

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Leslie - I cannot resist but ask the question - do you drink alcohol at all?

donny andi

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50p if bought in bulk

Trout

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I don't usually do caffeine - however I am currently snorting down some tiramisu that some friends brought around - yummy!

chocolate_o_brian

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With a crisp £50 note off your wife's chest I hope too

bruce1986

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green mitsi triangles were nuts,not a scratch on mdma though,mdma+fair ground rides=great time

jef

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les it really is great your doing really well in your life and completely satisfied with its outcome.

however and its a BIGGIE, lol.
your posts suggest an education on these things derived from media mis-information.
how can you say alcohol can be controlled by sensibale consumption, yet other less addictive drugs cannot?
eg ecstacy.
the addictiveness of alcohol is prevelant in almost every social direction you may turn. like any drug social heirarchy has zero bearing on who becomes addicted.
it is by FAR the most dangerouse drug available, and thats partly due to its availability, but mostly due to history/tradition and social acceptance.

method of administration is a big factor in its social acdeptance, as pills,powders are relativley new in social terms. alcohol has been drunk/brewed for centuries. this fact is what makes it so dangerous. because already you are of the opinion that its controllable? its no more or less controlable than others, and in fact alocohol users are infinatley more likley to take other drugs , as they are intoxicated, incapable of making sensible decisions, or any normal behaviour. alcohol also is one of if not the only drug that is redeaily associated with increased levels of agression.

its the social acceptance thats the most dangerous fact. and that its nor perceived as a drug by most. anyone that uses alcohol or any other drug is a "junkie" with absolutley zero exception. most refuse to accept that

jef

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ill further that with this
human being are creatures of habit, as a most living things, its a very successful survival technique, we and other animals have behavioural patterns that benefit the respective speices,

but it passes onto to modern day society in ways that go unrecognisable.
eating for example, weve evolved to go with readily available food sources, meaning several meal per day has become the norm, other species with food sources nor so available adapt to survive on 1 meal per 6 months.
for us this means a particular vurnerable position to any addictivness substances. which is not always negative, eg endorphines released by excersise, eating or mmany other activites.
but think of your own daily habits, consuming tea, coffee, any caffinated soft drink, green tea ect with caffine is in part due to the addictive properties of caffine. which comes with its associated health implications.
many "need" a tea or coffe in the morning to get going, set them up ect ect, thats is addiction. end of.
the fact its side effects are minor compared to others is of zero relevance. its an addictive drug, but just accepted, in almost all carbonted drinks, along with teas ect.

to remove yourself from any addiction or drug is niave to say the least, if you follow any of these habits.

if you dont then truly i applaud you, as in todays western society it is so very very difficult, addiction/habit is exploited for income generatiom and relyed to most as normal and morally/legally acceptable.

kid yourself not

J4CKO

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Jef, very well put mate, it is all down to perception but also some drugs are spectacularly destructive and those are the ones we see that grab the headlines, the Daily Mail loves someone who died from Ecstasy but usually it isnt the MDMA that kills them its dehydration, it not being MDMA or danving like a goon and having a heart attack, casualty departments are I would expect more full most nights of drunks who have been fighting, women with broken ankles from falling pissed on high heels etc.

Not all use is misuse of any substance, I like Krispy Kreme donuts but I dont eat a whole thing of 12 but some do and you see them buying them, rolling round in mobility scooters as they cant walk any more, yet drop a trip or take an E and survive unscathed you are a "druggy", but can still walk, drink ten pints and you are a proper bloke despite feeling utterly wretched the following day.

The problem is with a log of drug taking is that it is unregulated, say what you want about a can of Stella but it is consistent and I know I can drink four cans and not find rat poison in it, I can drink ten if I want and harm myself and nobody says a thing, the responsibility lies with me and I personally would like the choice to take other things to relax with moderation, not saying I would but I think I have the mental capacity to decide that a Joint occasionally is ok without fear of prosecution, I would most other stuff but maybe would try an E or Acid again, a small, known dose of a regulated product, doesn't make me a drug crazed junkie, having nicked a few of my mums Valium to chill me out in times of stress and give me a goo nights sleep I would do that as well, occasionally, but like with all this it would be occasional.

JackClark

Jesus drank wine he didn't take E and dance all night, mores the shame.

jef

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totally agree jacko,
ecstacy deaths are loved by papers - indeed dehydartion is a culprate mostly on the so few deaths, same but more applicable in my lifes experience is hormone manipulation, everyone loves a story about a steroid nutter killing someone ect, but the same hormone manipulation goes un-noticed as contraception. ive seen paper headlines "steroid fuelled carzed man slaughters family, then underneath a tiny paragraph "such and such used steriods as a teenager 17 years ago, doctors say it may have influenced his behaiour" lol
the real problem is that the media control the education of the masses,
they go unregulated and are of a profit making set up.
this automatically means there subject to corruption. and its blatant to most.

and there in lies the biggest problem with politics. the fear instilled by media corporations for pure income generation, is instilled into politicans also. meaning any that dare to speak out of turn risk persecution, and they bloody well know it.
and so they and advisors are the one who become regulated instead. now the media play important roles in exposing other corrupt activities, and it kindof helps with there kudos in society.
a blind man could tell you evey drug tsar, or legislation made up is not or never will win the "war on drugs". another media derived paper seller.

the only way, and it truly is the ONLY way is to legalise, and control all drug production and ditribution. the extremely sad fact is that, the media will never allow common sense, and human welfare to be enhanced with this radical proposal.

drug/dietry intake should be down to individual discrection and be without fear of persecution. will it ever happen. NOT A FCKING CHANCE.

jayallen

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Now that says to me Jesus attended an allnighter, no way could he of managed that without chucking a couple of little fellas down his neck!

jef

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jesus was fabricated in the mind of crazed ecstacy users, made massive meals from bread and water?, resusrected from the dead? go on defend that haha

hide me from the beleivers lol

markjmd

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Some close friends of mine had a broadly similar experience while watching American Werewolf in London. Let's just say that all concerned described the experience as quite memorable