craigo

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yes, this advice is correct.....
craig

gpssti4

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I have a Type R running over 350bhp with a 6 speed box etc. My car now weighs just short of 1300kgs and 'feels' very quick, but it's always on the edge. I only drive it at 90% as it's a challenging drive. Great fun, but it will bite you in the *** it provoked. A 400bhp newage would be easier and more relaxing to drive at the same 'speed'.

playtime

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Just buy a type r sti and be done with it you tart your as bad if not worse than me for waiting on that advice that will make your mind up for you.

scoobydoobytim

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I bought an automatic 1996 JDM motor as as far as I can remember this was the only early classic with ABS then converted to five speed manual this is pushing out the sort of power your after I even did the Brembo conversion and tbh I wouldn't fancy no ABS if your going to drive it hard.

TonyBurns

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100kg heavier, more torque, actually quicker to 100mph than a type R quicker 0-60, quicker in gear, more aerodynamic, quicker pickup etc, take your pick
Remember I own both

Tony

gpssti4

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Which would you say is more fun though Tony?

TonyBurns

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EFA

Also see me
http://www.litimports.co.uk/images/p...e/evopage8.jpg

And no, ive never seen a Spec C with that power output, I have the same fuel remap and its similar to my last Spec C power output on the standard JDM map
Its heavier "brother" loses a 10th of a sec here and there but not much.

Tony

TonyBurns

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The new age JDM, they are completely different to a newage UK, dont get me wrong, the type R is a fantastic machine but ensure you get a limited or a version 6 with the quickrack standard as the fastrack does not complement the chassis enough tbh it feels a little numb, but the gearing is manic and you do get noticed more in a type R than you do in a new age STI.
Its good to own one but you do notice the improvements on the new age JDM's alot more than you do on a UK STI.

Tony

bonesetter

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I have a Type R runing 331bhp (and have owned New Age JDM twin scroll 370/360 and currently run a V7 STi 345bhp Wagon). I prefer the Type R for a few reasons.

I can have more fun at lower speeds. I found I needed to drive the JDM very fast indeed to start to get it to have fun
The Type R is alot more nimble. It has a complianct, yielding, femanine quality which is very nice The JDM's drive is butch
Real world driving you can adjust speed more easily and intuitively. Feel yourself going a little too fast into a situation? Just lift off and the car will slow, where the New Age will need a dab of brake
You have the confidence to go into stuff at higher speed because you know you have the braking capacity to stop more quickly (I do have Brembo's on the Type R though)
It feels faster than the New Age JDM
The Type R 'drive' spanks the JDM's when it comes to enjoyment. It's as much fun at 20 mph as it is at 120

Personally, ~330 in the Type R is a sweet spot for road use. I would say ample power

Sorry it's a bit of a comparison which you didn't want, but I don't see any other way of making the point

HTH's, good luck

MattyB1983

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If both cars are standard yes Tony, you were comparing a 350bhp type R to a 300bhp spec C though.

tubbytommy

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just got to ask, you have opinions on a lot of the various imprezas.
have you driven all the cars you comment on or read about them on a forum? who's 400 bhp newage did you drive?

this is not to start an arguement, i am just wondering how you can offer this opinion.

tony has both cars so his opinion should be more valid to the op.

what models of impreza have you owned out of interest?

TonyBurns

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And?

I gave a 340bhp classic a run for its money in a "316bhp" spec c
Dont go on BHP alone, you should also go on torque and pickup, midrange can make a BIG difference, and if you see what a "350" bhp spec c can do, it may scare you

Look at the link I put up, we all know that a Spec C pushes around 290-300bhp out of the box and that a P1 pushes around 280-290bhp in standard form, you just have to look at the difference in times between both (all) of the cars shown there, demonstrates the difference really

Tony

gpssti4

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That's why I changed my standard rack on my V4 Type R to a quickrack. Also to a set of Brembo's and a newage DCCD gearbox. perhaps I should have just bought a newage lol, aghhhhhh too many doors now I remember

chris_wrx

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so going by this thread is mine perfect? with the best of both worlds

cool grey type r v5( fastest colour lol)
jdm twincroll conversion using vf36
spec d 6 speed box
simtek with toys

ditchmyster

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Mate, i and tony have both, so no axe to grind, the type r feels faster, but is really not, and thats with the same hands, that are reasonably talented, not saying i'm the best out there because i'm not, but i'm pretty decent when in maximum attack mode.

I know it's not a popular view but it's the truth, and i have driven them back to back on the same course and when you look at the speedo it tells a different story.

tubbytommy

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so whos opinion is valid?
owners of both or others who havent driven both or worst still either?

you decide but i know who i would trust

Terminator X

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Cosworth engine, whole car for £6k ... I call bullsh*t!

TX.

Terminator X

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You don't own a 350hp Type R though

TX.

Edit - as you know I owned a 375hp MY05 Spec C a few years ago, wonderful car that I'd have back in a instant. This thread isn't about how wonderful a Spec C though is it ...

banny sti

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Only a saloon sti 3, so car itself is not worth that much

MattyB1983

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+1...

Why would you spend a small fortune on a cosworth build to run it at 320bhp.. Something smells fishy there.

MattyB1983

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Steady....STI V3's are the best though Banny, you know that

jayallen

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Thats the problem Tommy, people read things on here and repost it when they either dont have a clue what they are talking about or have no experience of the topic.

My RA felt quick as **** up and down through the gears and having done many trackdays in it, it was a very capable car.....but.....My bug feels equally as fast without the snap back in the seat effect.

tubbytommy

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that was my point exactly, hamster has posted opinions on a few cars lately i was wondering which of the impreza models he has owned and driven.

i would say 400bhp newage cars are quite rare as are 350 bhp type r so wondered whos he had driven?

how can you offer an opinion as to which is faster etc. if the only experience you have is something you read on a forum???
if i write that a sport is faster than a 500bhp newage will hamster take this as fact??

i have driven both versions of these cars (standard though) and actually owned one of them.
the type r feels faster as it more raw to drive but in reality the newage car was faster through the gears etc but there really is hardly anything in it i thought and it would come down to looks etc for me.

i love the 2 door version of the impreza much rarer and better looking than most of the other models,

as the three people on here that have driven both all agree newage is quicker, i wondered how he formed his opinion that the type r will "rape" as he put it a newage jdm sti?