time to get new tyres but what ones
#31
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I've has Falken 452s on my last 2 cars and more than happy with them. Sessantas seem to be popular but no personal experience so can't really comment. The last time I has Yokohamsa's everyone raved about them and I was truly disappointed, they worked okay but had a poor wear rate and I replaced them with FK 451s which worked just as well but lasted longer. Not looked back since
#32
FK452 are great tyres,which i can recommend.Great wear,but amazing grip in dry,in rain not very good,but still better than Yoko or Toyo
Tried before Toyo T1R,which has been poor on our wagon,replaced with Kumho Ecsta which i would call only ditch finder,now running Sessanta and they're great,in rain or wet are just superb and in dry are too great,wear not sure,at moment we are driven about the 1k miles with them
Jura
Tried before Toyo T1R,which has been poor on our wagon,replaced with Kumho Ecsta which i would call only ditch finder,now running Sessanta and they're great,in rain or wet are just superb and in dry are too great,wear not sure,at moment we are driven about the 1k miles with them
Jura
#33
FK452 are great tyres,which i can recommend.Great wear,but amazing grip in dry,in rain not very good,but still better than Yoko or Toyo
Tried before Toyo T1R,which has been poor on our wagon,replaced with Kumho Ecsta which i would call only ditch finder,now running Sessanta and they're great,in rain or wet are just superb and in dry are too great,wear not sure,at moment we are driven about the 1k miles with them
Jura
Tried before Toyo T1R,which has been poor on our wagon,replaced with Kumho Ecsta which i would call only ditch finder,now running Sessanta and they're great,in rain or wet are just superb and in dry are too great,wear not sure,at moment we are driven about the 1k miles with them
Jura
#34
Don't rate Toyo T1r's - ditch finders for me.
Goodyear Eagle F1's are excellent but wear quick.
Uniroyal Rainsport II are fantastic in wet/dry, but wear quick.
Currently running Bridgestones Potenza Re050 and very good but still typical understeer characteristics. On the car as they were cheap with some wheels.
Will probably go Falken when next required. I can't justify £120-150 a corner when Falken 912's at about £60 are very impressive as well.
Goodyear Eagle F1's are excellent but wear quick.
Uniroyal Rainsport II are fantastic in wet/dry, but wear quick.
Currently running Bridgestones Potenza Re050 and very good but still typical understeer characteristics. On the car as they were cheap with some wheels.
Will probably go Falken when next required. I can't justify £120-150 a corner when Falken 912's at about £60 are very impressive as well.
#36
i have had on my type r,
uniroyal rainsport II, ended against a barrier in the wet
toyo tr1, better than uniroyal
F1 asymmetic 2 they are getting fitted today i will post a pic later
uniroyal rainsport II, ended against a barrier in the wet
toyo tr1, better than uniroyal
F1 asymmetic 2 they are getting fitted today i will post a pic later
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I've had experience with Toyo T1R's, Goodyear Eagle F1's and Toyo R888's.
Personally, I was never overly impressed with the T1R's and they seem to be a tyre with mixed reviews.
The Goodyear Eagle F1's I felt were a decent all around tyre, good in the dry, good in the wet and not incredibly expensive.
R888's are seriously incredible tyres, in the dry! If there's a little bit of moisture on the road, forget it, but dry conditions, track use, they're bloody good.
Personally, I was never overly impressed with the T1R's and they seem to be a tyre with mixed reviews.
The Goodyear Eagle F1's I felt were a decent all around tyre, good in the dry, good in the wet and not incredibly expensive.
R888's are seriously incredible tyres, in the dry! If there's a little bit of moisture on the road, forget it, but dry conditions, track use, they're bloody good.
#38
Ooooh, another tyre thread
Yokohama AD08's - outstanding
Have a set fitted to my Type R. They are like Super Glue in the dry, and wet too.
If you're used to T1R's you're in for a massive grin. T1R's are pretty poor in the great scheme of things. Here's a thread when I changed from them to the Yoko's
I've tried many different tyres on my Scooby's over the years. Yes, the Yoko's are a pricy tyre, but really, worth it.
Only other I would consider are the Pilot Sport 2's (3's have lost it a bit)
Yokohama AD08's - outstanding
Have a set fitted to my Type R. They are like Super Glue in the dry, and wet too.
If you're used to T1R's you're in for a massive grin. T1R's are pretty poor in the great scheme of things. Here's a thread when I changed from them to the Yoko's
I've tried many different tyres on my Scooby's over the years. Yes, the Yoko's are a pricy tyre, but really, worth it.
Only other I would consider are the Pilot Sport 2's (3's have lost it a bit)
#39
hmmh... I've had Continental Sport Contact 3's on for the last 2 sets and they are superb ! IMO the best road tyre out there by far.
The last three tyre tests in EVO mag they came out tops - dont know why they're not so popular...
Not as pricey as Mich Pilots, great grip in dry, amazing in wet, quietish, can get them for a reasonable price if you shop around.
There are lots of cheaper tyres that are pretty good in the dry eg Toyo, Falken, Yokohama, Dunlop Sport's - but shocking in the wet...
Second choice would be Goodyear asymetric 2.
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The last three tyre tests in EVO mag they came out tops - dont know why they're not so popular...
Not as pricey as Mich Pilots, great grip in dry, amazing in wet, quietish, can get them for a reasonable price if you shop around.
There are lots of cheaper tyres that are pretty good in the dry eg Toyo, Falken, Yokohama, Dunlop Sport's - but shocking in the wet...
Second choice would be Goodyear asymetric 2.
A
#40
I've had experience with Toyo T1R's, Goodyear Eagle F1's and Toyo R888's.
Personally, I was never overly impressed with the T1R's and they seem to be a tyre with mixed reviews.
The Goodyear Eagle F1's I felt were a decent all around tyre, good in the dry, good in the wet and not incredibly expensive.
R888's are seriously incredible tyres, in the dry! If there's a little bit of moisture on the road, forget it, but dry conditions, track use, they're bloody good.
Personally, I was never overly impressed with the T1R's and they seem to be a tyre with mixed reviews.
The Goodyear Eagle F1's I felt were a decent all around tyre, good in the dry, good in the wet and not incredibly expensive.
R888's are seriously incredible tyres, in the dry! If there's a little bit of moisture on the road, forget it, but dry conditions, track use, they're bloody good.
#42
Agreed. Made a laughing stock of the standard Bridgestone RE50s that I had on before and cost 2/3 the price. Unfortunately my new cars tyre size is unusual and they dont make them for it which is a shame.
#43
Here's what the Nasioc's say - still current:
We have broken down tires into several categories and here is a short list of what I have experienced in our testing. Now remember, we do not have every single tire line in the world so, if your particular favorite is not in this list it is probably because we haven't tested it. Also, this is my take on the testing that I have completed here at The Tire Rack on our test track.
Extreme Performance:
You want extreme dry street performance and are willing to trade some comfort and hydroplaning resistance to get it.
Not intended to be driven in snow or on ice, or at high speeds in deep standing water, these specially tuned tires combine big-block tread designs with aggressive tread compounds and reinforced internal constructions to emphasize dry road response, traction, handling and high speed capabilities for serious driving enthusiasts.
These are all fantastic to push to the limits but, they also have their own set of compromises mostly related to ride quality, road noise and wet traction. 3
1.) Advan Neova AD08 (Super Glue sticky)
2.) Bridgestone Potenza RE11 (all around great tire)
3.) Hankook RS3 (the new entry and might move up)
4.) Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec (bigger footprint than most and also noisier)
5.) Kumho Excsta XS(stupid fast and scary in the wet)
Maximum Performance:
These are great performing tires which offer great steering response and wet/dry traction (not for use in the snow!!!).
1.) Pilot Super Sport (the new Big Dawg)
2.) Potenza S-04 Pole Position (new entry that will make some waves)
3.) Eagle F1 Asymmetric
4.) Pilot Sport PS2
5.) Extreme Contact DW
5.) Hankook Ventus V12 EVO (the bang for the buck winner in this group)
6.) Advan Sport (getting pretty long in the tooth)
Ultra High Performance:
A step down from the Max tires but, still exceptional performance which fits most application for a street tire that can be driven very aggressively.
1.) Potenza RE760 Sport
2.) Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500
3.) Pilot Exalto PE2
4.) Kumho Ecsta LE Sport
5.) G-Force KDW2
Ultra High Performance All Season:
Performance tires which are capable of going through the snow.
1.) P-Zero Nero AS
2.) Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus
3.) Continental Extreme Contact DWS
4.) Potenza RE960 Pole Position
5.) Eagle GT
6.) BF Goodrich Super Sport A/S
7.) Advan S4
Budget Performance Tires:
Summer performance with a cost effective tire when your budget is a concern and some tires which are very cost effective are also listed in other classes . (based on performance not cost)
1.) Sumitomo HTR Z III
2.) Kumho Ecsta SPT
3.) Yokohama S-Drive
4.) Dunlop Direzza DZ101
5.) Fuzion ZRi
6.) Sumitomo HTR Z II
We have broken down tires into several categories and here is a short list of what I have experienced in our testing. Now remember, we do not have every single tire line in the world so, if your particular favorite is not in this list it is probably because we haven't tested it. Also, this is my take on the testing that I have completed here at The Tire Rack on our test track.
Extreme Performance:
You want extreme dry street performance and are willing to trade some comfort and hydroplaning resistance to get it.
Not intended to be driven in snow or on ice, or at high speeds in deep standing water, these specially tuned tires combine big-block tread designs with aggressive tread compounds and reinforced internal constructions to emphasize dry road response, traction, handling and high speed capabilities for serious driving enthusiasts.
These are all fantastic to push to the limits but, they also have their own set of compromises mostly related to ride quality, road noise and wet traction. 3
1.) Advan Neova AD08 (Super Glue sticky)
2.) Bridgestone Potenza RE11 (all around great tire)
3.) Hankook RS3 (the new entry and might move up)
4.) Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec (bigger footprint than most and also noisier)
5.) Kumho Excsta XS(stupid fast and scary in the wet)
Maximum Performance:
These are great performing tires which offer great steering response and wet/dry traction (not for use in the snow!!!).
1.) Pilot Super Sport (the new Big Dawg)
2.) Potenza S-04 Pole Position (new entry that will make some waves)
3.) Eagle F1 Asymmetric
4.) Pilot Sport PS2
5.) Extreme Contact DW
5.) Hankook Ventus V12 EVO (the bang for the buck winner in this group)
6.) Advan Sport (getting pretty long in the tooth)
Ultra High Performance:
A step down from the Max tires but, still exceptional performance which fits most application for a street tire that can be driven very aggressively.
1.) Potenza RE760 Sport
2.) Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500
3.) Pilot Exalto PE2
4.) Kumho Ecsta LE Sport
5.) G-Force KDW2
Ultra High Performance All Season:
Performance tires which are capable of going through the snow.
1.) P-Zero Nero AS
2.) Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus
3.) Continental Extreme Contact DWS
4.) Potenza RE960 Pole Position
5.) Eagle GT
6.) BF Goodrich Super Sport A/S
7.) Advan S4
Budget Performance Tires:
Summer performance with a cost effective tire when your budget is a concern and some tires which are very cost effective are also listed in other classes . (based on performance not cost)
1.) Sumitomo HTR Z III
2.) Kumho Ecsta SPT
3.) Yokohama S-Drive
4.) Dunlop Direzza DZ101
5.) Fuzion ZRi
6.) Sumitomo HTR Z II
#44
#47
£50 a corner budget tyres that came with new alloys..225/40/18's....had no problems in 5000 miles and tread hardly worn....probably try some proper tyres next tho, but cant fault these yet??
#48
I will stick my neck out and say....
F1 asymmetric are the best all round road tyre there is - end off in my book.
Not the best wearing
Not a great track tyre
Not a great price
But for progressive on limit handing in wet and dry.
Superb. Its not Grip grip grip ..big unprogressive suprise.
They always tell you what they are about to do
When I get my 470hp classic out of shape they allways talk to me.
It not how much a grip a tyre has, it is how it communicates to you and how progressive it is on the limits of grip. And on the road how it does that in wet and dry.
Summary
A brilliant jack of all trades - master on none
F1 asymmetric are the best all round road tyre there is - end off in my book.
Not the best wearing
Not a great track tyre
Not a great price
But for progressive on limit handing in wet and dry.
Superb. Its not Grip grip grip ..big unprogressive suprise.
They always tell you what they are about to do
When I get my 470hp classic out of shape they allways talk to me.
It not how much a grip a tyre has, it is how it communicates to you and how progressive it is on the limits of grip. And on the road how it does that in wet and dry.
Summary
A brilliant jack of all trades - master on none
#49
I will stick my neck out and say....
F1 asymmetric are the best all round road tyre there is - end off in my book.
Not the best wearing
Not a great track tyre
Not a great price
But for progressive on limit handing in wet and dry.
Superb. Its not Grip grip grip ..big unprogressive suprise.
They always tell you what they are about to do
When I get my 470hp classic out of shape they allways talk to me.
It not how much a grip a tyre has, it is how it communicates to you and how progressive it is on the limits of grip. And on the road how it does that in wet and dry.
Summary
A brilliant jack of all trades - master on none
F1 asymmetric are the best all round road tyre there is - end off in my book.
Not the best wearing
Not a great track tyre
Not a great price
But for progressive on limit handing in wet and dry.
Superb. Its not Grip grip grip ..big unprogressive suprise.
They always tell you what they are about to do
When I get my 470hp classic out of shape they allways talk to me.
It not how much a grip a tyre has, it is how it communicates to you and how progressive it is on the limits of grip. And on the road how it does that in wet and dry.
Summary
A brilliant jack of all trades - master on none
#50
I got the F1's because of the weather changing all the time and i dont do track days but would love too, but ofcourse id get better tyres. When the car is run in i might have a pop down to knockhill.
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