Kirstiestar

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Dogs aren't born nasty, its the people that make them what they are. I have a Doberman and he dotes on my 6 year old daughter, he is really soppy

tony de wonderful

They will in packs. Happens occasionally in Australia where Dingos stalk then attacks backpackers.

I think on some greek island a few years back some English tourist was killed by a pack of dogs.

ozbod1

dingos would most defo take a human or child eitherway if there was 4 or so you wouldnt have a chance! packs of dogs on greek islands sounds a bit iffy, maybe a cat on your sunbed? tho now youve said it i must google it....
on the question of the dog that barks is it that she/he used to come upto you in the morning and no longer can due to rear legs? im guessing obviously.....

Chip

The headline "Five Met Police officers hurt in dog attack in Stratford" was factually correct and not bull**** as you suggest.

The dog had also attacked before as well.

Chip

Luan Pra bang

'Attack' implies the dog instigated a random attack rather than reality that the dog was defending its home and owner acting entirely as a guard dog should. THats why the headline is bull****. 'Pigs given taste of their own medicine by pitbull' would also be more accurate.

Chip

I take it from your attitude towards the police that have had some previous dealings with them maybe?

Luan Pra bang

Have you ever met anyone who has never had any dealings with the police ?

Turbohot

Ooo, I don't know about that, you know. My mummy got herself a fancy pooch a while ago. I didn't live at my parents' anymore, so I never had the pleasure to see him grow. when I visited after a good while, he acted really nasty towards me. To start with, he wouldn't let me put my foot into my parents' house where I spent many years of my life. The spoilt git would sit in my mum's bed, guarding her, and would bark at me non-stop for simply looking at him! That makes me think that some dogs like that fluffy one with little sharp teeth aren't born nice. He became nice to my mum because she adopted him. To her far-away child i.e. me, he was very nasty.

ozbod1

sounds like your mums dog wasnt guarding her! he was in fact the pack leader! heres my boy....hes a good dog 100% loyal ,reliable but also bold and fearless just like he should be....but i am the pack leader.......

ozbod1

in defence of the police, after watching the video i do feel for the one who the dog wouldnt let go of, after all they were doing there job like them or not a dog of this power and frame of mind could do some serious damage! im a massive dog lover and deal with many bull breed rescues but this dog was no use to anyone as much as it saddens me i agree with the out come, perhaps the police need to re-think raids when there is a dog involved? lots of dogs will protect there home and master? this one though sadly was a trained attack dog which is pritty retatded thing to do.....once again the dog suffers for our stupidity....

David Lock

So if I came around to your house to visit you, how would I know that your dog wouldn't have a go at me? tbh it would frighten me because I would recognise that a dog like that could do some serious damage if inclined or instructed.

Am I supposed to rely on your word that he is fine with strangers? I might be a long lost relative who gives you a manly hug which is what people do and dog could well misinterpret that as me attacking you? Looks to me like he is itching to have a go at the photographer

Not having a dig - a genuine question

david

mervil

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As a domestic heating engineer I visit c6-10 properties a day, 50% of those have a dog. I have found, the smallest dogs, Jack Russells etc are the worst behaved. I had a Jack Russell jump up and grab my wrist in one property, no warning, just jumped up, luckily I was wearing a watch!

I believe in allowing a dog to come and smell you and investigate as you are coming into their domain, once they are happy then I can come and go as I please!

The friendliest pooches are without doubt Staffs, all they want to do is play! I used to work for the local council too and even then the Staffs were less aggressive than all the smaller breeds!

This info is through experience and not hearsay! It is because of coming across these dogs that I wanted a Staff myself! Here she is....

ozbod1

no worries at all its a fair point! not being an ideal world there isnt an easy answer, if for example all humans could read a dogs signals it would be an easy answer but they cant and shouldnt be expected to. i cant speak for others but i can guarantee my dog 100% with people strangers or not, if it makes any sense hes been taught that he is at the bottom of the pack-just an example if you came in my house and he was on the sofa{as he often is} he has to move...just a small example...i wouldnt begin to say i can guarantee him with other dogs.
just this morning i was in some fields with him and saw a woman with a giant poodle so being a responsible owner i put mine on lead, she didnt and the dog came bounding over jumped straight on mine and started to mount him{it was a male and so is mine} she was about 200 yrds away trying in a pathetic way to shout hers, i had to grab the dog by its neck and pull it off and it growled so of course mine shot at it but it ran off saving any problems!
its seems owners find this ok as "its not that type of dog" "or hes just playin". if they had the slightest clue they would know its not ok and mounting a male dog isnt playing.
i dont know what mine would do if the police kicked the door in it has never happened but as a rule bull breeds dont make good guard dogs as they have a natural love of human affection{hence someone took them out of the fighting scene and into our homes}. the dog in the video had been trained.
lots of people seem wary of my dog, i dont force it on people but if they ask i gladly show the his true temperament. i own my dog for the love of the breed going back 40 years{my mum had a staffy}. ive no interest in having a dog to look the part tho local chavs seem to love my dog too...its the owners and that wont change! just like you, did you buy a scooby so that you can drive past schools at 130mph with your bov banging or because you appreciate the performance and handling of the impreza? if latter then you would proberbly be a good owner of a dog...

ozbod1

good point and nice dog! i took the pics of my dog so needless to say he wasnt itching for the cameraman. i love all dogs but if for example i was a postman or as above visiting houses all day i would never be concerned about a staffy a pbt or various other bull breeds...theres is breeds i would be concerned about, i can read a dog but still there is breeds i would be concerned about! i wont name them as i dont like to cause offence to other beloved breeds but they are out there...there are 4 breeds banned under the 1991 dangerous dogs act, pitt being the most infamous which was really a dumb move by the goverment as you may have noticed this propelled the pitt to some kind of super dog that it never was, you may also have noticed the wrong type of person wanted to own them! because of the ban staffs came next!
theres a handfull of genuine pitts in the uk, most are numbnut owners creations to lookalikey. if i wanted a serious dog as protection or to look the part it wouldnt be no staff or pitt..out of the 4 banned breeds in the uk i can name 8 breeds that are legal and in the wrong hands of course more of a danger....along with a few fellow staffy lovers i have been to meetings with defra with an answer to the problem, if not an answer then a big step forward.
4 of us spent hundereds of hours each drawing up a draft, checking and double checking, it all looked very good and we were told our idea was right at the top....sadly for everyone it didnt happen....if you want the information i can trim it down so it fits in a post....i would like to hear responses good or bad...

Devildog

Wild dogs or dingos hunting in packs for survival isn't comparable to domestic dogs.

DARB

Here's my two

David Lock

They'll have you......



dl

mervil

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That's a great pic bet they love to play a lot!!

DARB

Too much lol

tony de wonderful

Because they lose those instincts because they are domesticated. No.

Devildog

Mate, believe what you want. I really don't care

ozbod1

nice dogs you must be proud of them...

DARB

I am very proud of them, they are very well behaved and a credit to their trainer

hodgy0_2

they look like killers to me Dave

make sure they are muzzled in public

David Lock

But they don't make short snout muzzles

I saw an Akita* in the village recently and I told her indoors we'd better keep them away or they'll take her out


*Beautiful looking dog I have to say

dl

ozbod1

im loving the sensible dog debate, its a refreshing change-but we need more pics......

mervil

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Dangerous Staffy? Bollox!

Turbohot

Some lovely dogs' pics here. On SBTs, they are so strong built and super-charged that they send shivers up my arms! Their body is aerodynamic and they sit on the floor in a very strange way; like Subway's long baguette. They are supposed to be very friendly to the humans and their children, and they even get on well with other breeds of dogs. Rabbits, cats and sheep need to be very afraid of them indeed. My son has a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. When he brings his dog around, I make sure that I lock my cats in the bedrooms upstairs. I have started to find this pooch very, very cute, but I still don't have a bottle to babysit him on my own. I am aware that I am the one with the problem, not my son's SBT.

ScoobyWon't

My Newfoundland is almost a year old. In the 10 months we've had him, I've not managed a walk without at least 1 person stopping me to talk to the dog.

I don't mind when people ask if they can approach him, but I do wonder why some people insist on walking by and making a noise to get his attention. Luckily he's only just over 40kg now and easy to control, but when he reaches his full 65kg+ he'd really be able to pull if he wanted to.

DARB

A group of friends cycle to the coast every year for charity, and we always go and meet them and their families to give our support, last year we spent the whole day with them and their children, our Staffies were in there element, lots of attention and kids fussing them constantly. Around 8 oclock we decided to head back to the caravan, when I remembered that my brother and his wife and three kids were staying there too so we decided to call and have a drink with them on the way back, the pub they were in was dog friendly so it wasn't a problem taking them into the family room, our lass sat down as I said hello, I turned to see a guy from the next table taking to her, he said "do you mind?" to which she replied " I'm sorry is this someones seat?" to which he replied "No, I mean bringing those in here" she answered that it was ok as dogs are allowed in, he said " not dangerous ones". I got involved at this point and assured him as he could see the dogs were not dangerous as there were kids playing and stroking them, he was having none of it, he was gathering his children up to take them away from the "devil dogs". My brother even tried to explain that they were far from dangerous, ( I'm aware that no animal is 100% predictable but we had them on leads and under control) I said to him that we were only having one drink and would be leaving, so there was no need to spoil his children's night by cutting it short, to which he said "I know your sort, just looking for trouble" at this point I decided to sit down and let him spoil his families night. I just hope his kids don't grow up with his short sighted views, ( I myself am wary of any dog (regardless of breed) if I'm not aware of its temperament, but it was obvious to a blind man that our dogs were soft as **** !!