IWatkins

None of what is being suggested the Apple TV will have (and no one actually knows) is new or game changing.

1. Control my TV from a phone or tablet? Check.

2. Download apps and run them on my TV? Check.

3. Mirror what is being shown on my TV onto my phone or tablet? Check.

4. Display/listen to photos/videos/music on my TV from my phone/tablet/PC/Mac? Check.

5. Stream/store photos/video/music on my TV from the Internet? Check.

6. Use and view Skype on my TV so everyone can be in shot? Check.

All of this stuff just works already in this house and not a single Apple iOS device involved.

I really don't know what all the fuss is about?

Dingdongler

You have no idea what you are talking about. My home cinema is as close to the director intended it as I can afford. It would put many small older local cinemas to shame.

A lot closer to how it was meant to be seen and heard than a 42 inch flatscreen and streamed video.

Tidgy

im waitng to get my mrs a i ron,,,,,

the apple tv, 3 times more expensive than every other tv yet wont let you watch any chanels other than what ever channels they release.

dpb

People are lazy and lap up the repackaging - its just plain wrong to the the average person

But what can you do

JackClark

To me that says you have more money than sense. Each to their own.

JackClark

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What TV is this? We can set it as a benchmark then come back once the Apple TV has been launched and compare.

JackClark

I love it when you lot get all defensive and spout unfounded negative opinions of Apple products. Takes me back to 2007.

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Actually Ian that does sound like a cool TV, which one is it because if you have one like that then I doubt Apple's entry into the market will be as welcome.

Got to be expensive though ?

JackClark

We have a Samsung here that tries to do most of that but fails in every area. A fine effort from a hardware manufacturer but could do better.

andy97

iTrader: (1)

Boooooooooooooring

Jack has moved onto another live changing experience

Jamz3k

****?

hodgy0_2

does make you wonder just how many life changing / game changers you can have in a lifetime


must be exhausting

Iain Young

It will be life changing. If it works as well as the other Apple devices and software I've had it'll mean that it'll crash on a frequent basis, the buttons will stop working after a couple of years, tech support will be non-existent, and I'll constantly be wishing I'd bought something else. It might stop me watching tv altogether

Can't imagine why anybody would want all that stuff on a tv. I don't even listen to internet radio / mp3 / or stream video on the computer. The quality just isn't there. When I can stream blu-ray quality with no lag and 5.1 surround, then I "might" be interested...

JackClark

Iain Apple and Xbox don't want you as a customer. You have some force field around you that breaks their products or makes them function in an abnormal way.

dpb

A visit to the gender clinic would have been a heck of a lot cheaper !

Iain Young

Not true. My latest Xbox has been working fine for a few years now. Only had trouble with the initial units. Apple is the only manufacturer I have had problems with of late...

JackClark

I fear for who's next.

Saint AAI

The vid of the Samsung product is not a TV, but their Smart Window by the way.

JackClark

Total Cost of Ownership for Apple products is far lower than the competition. And if you factor in my Apple Shares all my products have cost nothing.

ramdor

iTrader: (2)

any pics of this anywhere (too lazy to search). I would be tempted, although I do run xbmc (live tv + pvr build) + media portal in the lounge to my 108" projector screen via a panny 1080p proj. All media is on by bro's raid array, although we are running out of room slowly on it and it is 21TB :O

JackClark

21TB, no wonder the internet is so slow. "Pieces of Eight"

Anyhow, no pictures, there may not even be a product but going by the stock price today the market thinks it's coming. Pretty much paid for my TV on today trading.

Iain Young

Just how do you work that out then? They cost more, don't last any longer than the competition, and are just as unreliable...

ramdor

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, shame we only have a 2mbit connection out here in the middle of no where.. heh

So is this just going to be an LCD with their apple tv set top box inside or something else?

Richie.

JackClark

You would say that. They don't cost much more, don't require additional purchases of software and don't require a subscription to stop them becoming a botnet, they do last a lot longer and operating system updates cost a 5th of the price.

Oh and the resale value is around 50% after 3 years rather than a trip to the tip.

JackClark

Expect some extras but pretty much yes.

Dingdongler

I have enough of both money and sense to pursue quality in those things that interest me. Trust me, it's a nice position to be in.

JackClark

In that case maybe an Apple TV in your Pool House Toilet would suit. That's what P Diddy would do.

jonc

You dish this one out time and time again but it's such an outdated POV.

You don't need subscription for software for security, no more than OSX.

Macs last no longer than PCs, my ThinkPad T60 is still going strong after 5 years for example

OS upgrades are not mandatory, Windows XP is still supported after over 10 years on the market. Vista support ends 2017 and Windows 7 will be supported until 2020. So no need to upgrade until you buy your next Windows PC and of course Linux is free anyways.

You quote that resale value of 50% after 3 years, but that is cancelled out when it can costs in excess of 100% more than PC of the same spec.

And just like PCs you still have to purchase software for Macs depending on what you want to do, and of course if it's gaming, well you can forget Macs. Again Linux is free.

JackClark

Gaming, just run Windows after all they're just PC's in expensive clothes right?

OS upgrades are not mandatory, but it's so nice being able to use the latest operating system don't you think.

Mac's do last longer than PC's, I've had both, your StinkPad probably takes an hour to warm up then coughs all day. I just lift the lid on mine and it's there running the latest and greatest just as it did when I bought it.

How can you say it's the same spec when your machine is made of cheap plastic, probably can't even read the keys anymore, it's not just about the number on the processor your know. I've had a Sony laptop that was £1500 new, sold for £300 in the end. Had a £1000 Macbook, got £500 for it after the same amount of time.

A new Mac comes with iLife, compare that with Windows Live and see who's out spending cash to complete the same tasks.

TCO is far better on a Mac, same with a a lot of quality goods. Buy cheap, buy twice.