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Old 09 February 2012, 09:35 PM
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You have a personality disorder mate. That's my professional opinion btw.
Old 09 February 2012, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Gaming, just run Windows after all they're just PC's in expensive clothes right?

OS upgrades are not mandatory, but it's so nice being able to use the latest operating system don't you think.

Mac's do last longer than PC's, I've had both, your StinkPad probably takes an hour to warm up then coughs all day. I just lift the lid on mine and it's there running the latest and greatest just as it did when I bought it.

How can you say it's the same spec when your machine is made of cheap plastic, probably can't even read the keys anymore, it's not just about the number on the processor your know. I've had a Sony laptop that was £1500 new, sold for £300 in the end. Had a £1000 Macbook, got £500 for it after the same amount of time.

A new Mac comes with iLife, compare that with Windows Live and see who's out spending cash to complete the same tasks.

TCO is far better on a Mac, same with a a lot of quality goods. Buy cheap, buy twice.
My "Stinkpad", grow up! As I said my "stinkpad" is still going strong, lift the screen and I'm on the internet in less time for you to say "owning a mac means I have more money than sense!".

It's not always nice to upgrade to the latest, at the time Vista was and still is **** beyond belief!!

I don't use Windows Live or iLife, but I guess they pretty much do the same as each other, a part from the fact that Windows Live is free and an upgrade to iLife '11 family pack costs £70 or £46 for a single licence.

Buying cheap means bargain, a term that Apple and their followers clearly are not familiar with.

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Old 10 February 2012, 04:40 AM
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Jon, please don't troll this thread with your Windows vs Macintosh drivel. We've been through that on other threads and OSX wins every time.
Old 10 February 2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
Actually Ian that does sound like a cool TV, which one is it because if you have one like that then I doubt Apple's entry into the market will be as welcome.

Got to be expensive though ?
ST,

It's a Samsung LED Smart TV. Yes, this one was expensive at £1700 (now down to around £1400) but it is a 55". Smaller ones also available much cheaper. TV does 3D as well, but I'm not interested in that hence it must be crap

Using my old school Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 (the original one) or my Samsung Nexus S (not the newer Galaxy Nexus) I can do all of the things I listed. Works fine every time without issues.

I'm not saying all the things I listed are necessarily useful to every one, but they are there. If the Apple TV ever makes it to market, they will no doubt say all this stuff is new, but it isn't.

Best bit is streaming what is on TV to the tablet/phone. So if someone is watching a film you are enjoying but you need to be in another room you can continue watching it on your tablet/phone.

Best app on the TV at the moment for me is Netflix. It just works and the quality is very good and hence LoveFilm has been ditched.

Of course, the Apple TV will sell. And I'm sure the software/interface will be very good and easy to use. I don't think anyone can argue that Apple don't know how to do interfaces. Even so, I suspect that as a TV it will be mediocre at best. I doubt it'll will have many of the features that those interested in using it as the main display of their home cinema systems would be interested in for instance.

Cheers

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Old 10 February 2012, 10:01 AM
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Streaming from the TV to the Tab or S2 is a great feature.

What your TV will never do is run apps to the same degree that the Apple TV will, no one is doing this right now and that's where the Apple TV will shine.
Old 10 February 2012, 10:50 AM
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Old 10 February 2012, 10:58 AM
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What your TV will never do is run apps to the same degree that the Apple TV will
A tv is a tv, not an overgrown ipad. Why would it need apps?
Old 10 February 2012, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by IWatkins
ST,

It's a Samsung LED Smart TV. Yes, this one was expensive at £1700 (now down to around £1400) but it is a 55". Smaller ones also available much cheaper. TV does 3D as well, but I'm not interested in that hence it must be crap

Using my old school Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 (the original one) or my Samsung Nexus S (not the newer Galaxy Nexus) I can do all of the things I listed. Works fine every time without issues.

I'm not saying all the things I listed are necessarily useful to every one, but they are there. If the Apple TV ever makes it to market, they will no doubt say all this stuff is new, but it isn't.

Best bit is streaming what is on TV to the tablet/phone. So if someone is watching a film you are enjoying but you need to be in another room you can continue watching it on your tablet/phone.

Best app on the TV at the moment for me is Netflix. It just works and the quality is very good and hence LoveFilm has been ditched.

Of course, the Apple TV will sell. And I'm sure the software/interface will be very good and easy to use. I don't think anyone can argue that Apple don't know how to do interfaces. Even so, I suspect that as a TV it will be mediocre at best. I doubt it'll will have many of the features that those interested in using it as the main display of their home cinema systems would be interested in for instance.

Cheers

Ian

As you say Ian, pretty good for what you need and the streaming bit to another device is great, almost like having sky multiroom years ago

Price is a bit eye watering but I guess you were paying for the size and 3D bits
Old 10 February 2012, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Jon, please don't troll this thread with your Windows vs Macintosh drivel. We've been through that on other threads and OSX wins every time.
Ha ha.

Easy to design software for closed hardware.

HTH
Old 10 February 2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Apple will of course be redefining the way we view television, rumours so far are 42", Siri Voice control and Gestures via front facing camera. I'm sure there'll be a whole lot more innovation included, but we'll have to wait and see.
Too late! Samsung already have this in the bag. Looks like Apple will again repackage existing technology and try to make it their own.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/techno...e1-809375.aspx

I can already see big patent and intellectual property rights litigations mounting up
Old 10 February 2012, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Too late! Samsung already have this in the bag. Looks like Apple will again repackage existing technology and try to make it their own.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/techno...e1-809375.aspx

I can already see big patent and intellectual property rights litigations mounting up
Don't worry Apple will take it, paint it white, put 2 stickers in the box and add 500 quid to the price tag. Then launch it in January and sit back and watch the sheep queueing up for days in the snow just to buy one.

Then they will sue ITV for having the same name they have decided to use.

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Old 10 February 2012, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Streaming from the TV to the Tab or S2 is a great feature.

What your TV will never do is run apps to the same degree that the Apple TV will, no one is doing this right now and that's where the Apple TV will shine.
I find it hard enough to put any worth while apps on my iphone never mind on a tv. 99% of all apps are throw away junk that get used for 5 mins and never again. They are just adding that sort of stuff, for the sake of adding it imo.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
In that case maybe an Apple TV in your Pool House Toilet would suit. That's what P Diddy would do.
LOL. Post of the week at least.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:04 PM
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You are crackers though.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
A tv is a tv, not an overgrown ipad. Why would it need apps?
That's what was said about the iPhone. That's doing OK now.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:24 PM
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Do Apple automatically send customers a copy of " 2001 Different Comebacks for use against Apple haters" after they've bought a certain amount of their products ?, is it all a part of the indoctrination process ?.

If not Jack should publish one, I dont think anyone in the history of SN has come up with so many comebacks over one product, I take my hat off to you Jack you're resilient to say the very least
Old 10 February 2012, 01:35 PM
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Cheers. It's not easy being 1 against 100, but I'm up for the job. Many have tried yet none have proved me wrong.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Do Apple automatically send customers a copy of " 2001 Different Denials for use against Apple haters" after they've bought a certain amount of their products ?, is it all a part of the indoctrination process ?.

If not Jack should publish one, I dont think anyone in the history of SN has come up with so many comebacks over one product, I take my hat off to you Jack you're resilient to say the very least
EFA To be read with rose tinted specs.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
EFA To be read with rose tinted specs.
You're wrong Jon, it's always a defence, defending the choice of the intelligent against the slurs of the uneducated, that's you that is.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
You're wrong Jon, it's always a defence, defending the choice of the intelligent against the slurs of the uneducated, that's you that is.
It's defense BTW
Old 10 February 2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
It's defense BTW
Are you sure?

American English has kept the Anglo-French spelling for defense and offense, which are usually defence and offence in British English; similarly there are the American pretense and British pretence; but derivatives such as defensive, offensive, and pretension are always thus spelled in both systems.

Just checked the British Dictionary on my Mac. It corrects defense to defence.

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Old 10 February 2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
You're wrong Jon, it's always a defence, defending the choice of the intelligent against the slurs of the uneducated, that's you that is.
Old 10 February 2012, 01:53 PM
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It's becoming almost too painful to watch
Old 10 February 2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
It's becoming almost too painful to watch
Agreed. It takes a bigger Troll than Jon to take me on.
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s=american
c=british/oed

afaik
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Are you sure?

American English has kept the Anglo-French spelling for defense and offense, which are usually defence and offence in British English; similarly there are the American pretense and British pretence; but derivatives such as defensive, offensive, and pretension are always thus spelled in both systems.

Just checked the British Dictionary on my Mac. It corrects defense to defence.
For you, yes, you love Apple so much I swear you're an American living in Cupertino.
Old 10 February 2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Agreed. It takes a better qualified psychiatrist than Jon to make any sense of my messed-up brain.
EFA.



I feel like a voyeur at a mental health clinic

must stop reading Apple threads,
must stop reading Apple threads,
must stop reading Apple threads,
Old 10 February 2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
EFA.



I feel like a voyeur at a mental health clinic

must stop reading Apple threads,
must stop reading Apple threads,
must stop reading Apple threads,
I was going to say you're mental for reading the threads and never contributing other than to insult me. But you did that yourself.
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Originally Posted by ramdor
s=american
c=british/oed

afaik
Chalk up another loss for Jon. This is too easy.
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Originally Posted by jonc
It's defense BTW


UK and international English does not follow American spelling, thankfully.


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