Real world running costs?
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to be honest id have to disagree with some of the points if you keep your subaru in a mild state of tune then very easy to live with, parts are cheap compared to other performance cars, easy to work on, easy to service. ok fuel can be an issue but what do you expect from 260 upwards horse power. if your handy with a spanner and dont mind using searching around for parts then your onto a winner
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Compared to a lot of other car marques, Subaru's are very reiliable indeed. The parts last very long and the cars are put together well.
I say this because, I used to own a string of BMW's and a trip to the garage every few months was quite the norm.
IIRC, the times newspaper did a huge survey, over a 10 year period to find the top ten most reliable car makes. Honda were number 1, but I was please to see that Subaru came second. The whole top ten were just full of japanes cars, with the only exception being Skoda at number 10.
I say this because, I used to own a string of BMW's and a trip to the garage every few months was quite the norm.
IIRC, the times newspaper did a huge survey, over a 10 year period to find the top ten most reliable car makes. Honda were number 1, but I was please to see that Subaru came second. The whole top ten were just full of japanes cars, with the only exception being Skoda at number 10.
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They are an amazing car but only to use as a weekend toy now so much better performance cars with turbo diesels with Hugh torque having 45-50 mpg
I know I use my wrxd as my everyday car and my classic just comes out once a week now as I want to keep it and treat myself to a drive occasionally
The hawkeyes will be the biggest depreciater soon with £500 road tax who will actually buy one when a slightly older bug eye will have half the rfl
But the best comment posted earlier
No point in being the richest man in the graveyard is just so true
I know I use my wrxd as my everyday car and my classic just comes out once a week now as I want to keep it and treat myself to a drive occasionally
The hawkeyes will be the biggest depreciater soon with £500 road tax who will actually buy one when a slightly older bug eye will have half the rfl
But the best comment posted earlier
No point in being the richest man in the graveyard is just so true
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+1, i have mates that have bmw, vw and audi's and they are always throwing money at them.
And having owned quite a lot of cars over the last 29 years of driving, subaru's are actually no more expensive to run than the average **** box, and a lot cheaper if you can do work yourself, ok you might pay on fuel but save on repairs, and the smiles per mile can only be beaten by some real exotica.
I only use a pro spanner monkey if it's something that requires expensive tools or i need a new exhaust as fitting is not a big cost over supply only and can be a pain to do.
People that buy new cars are the real mugs, as they cost an absolute fortune to run,even if it does 60 mpg, most decent cars cost at least 15k+ and after 3yrs are worth less than half that, plus servicing costs to keep warranty, some cars like big mercs audis and bmw's are eye wateringly expensive to own and run, i could have a forged rebuild every year and still come out on top over 3yrs, and at the end of the day a car is to get you from A to B.
I'm dreading the day when i have to buy one of the more recent offerings from car manufactures with all the built in faults.
And having owned quite a lot of cars over the last 29 years of driving, subaru's are actually no more expensive to run than the average **** box, and a lot cheaper if you can do work yourself, ok you might pay on fuel but save on repairs, and the smiles per mile can only be beaten by some real exotica.
I only use a pro spanner monkey if it's something that requires expensive tools or i need a new exhaust as fitting is not a big cost over supply only and can be a pain to do.
People that buy new cars are the real mugs, as they cost an absolute fortune to run,even if it does 60 mpg, most decent cars cost at least 15k+ and after 3yrs are worth less than half that, plus servicing costs to keep warranty, some cars like big mercs audis and bmw's are eye wateringly expensive to own and run, i could have a forged rebuild every year and still come out on top over 3yrs, and at the end of the day a car is to get you from A to B.
I'm dreading the day when i have to buy one of the more recent offerings from car manufactures with all the built in faults.
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Just selling my BMW 123D M Sport coupe, it does a solid 45 mpg when taking it easy but drops to 35 when you push it. Costs me £310 per month in fuel and just over 500 in car finance.
My new scoob cost me 7k to purchase and will cost around 550 in fuel. So I am looking at saving 229 a month switching from my Bremer to my scoob.
Good value if you ask me and will be a new toy for track days.
My new scoob cost me 7k to purchase and will cost around 550 in fuel. So I am looking at saving 229 a month switching from my Bremer to my scoob.
Good value if you ask me and will be a new toy for track days.
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Add depreciation at 50% minimum over 3yrs and it would need to do 200+ to the gallon to be cheaper than a scooby.
Not having a pop at you mate, it just makes my eyes water at what it costs to run a decent new motor.
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Lol, perfect example, £800 a month before main dealer servicing costs
Add depreciation at 50% minimum over 3yrs and it would need to do 200+ to the gallon to be cheaper than a scooby.
Not having a pop at you mate, it just makes my eyes water at what it costs to run a decent new motor.
Add depreciation at 50% minimum over 3yrs and it would need to do 200+ to the gallon to be cheaper than a scooby.
Not having a pop at you mate, it just makes my eyes water at what it costs to run a decent new motor.
Scoobies offer some of the best performance value that todays money can buy.
Just depends on how you look at it.
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I dont think the R Sport, WRX or Spec D Hawkeyes make you look like a *****, but all the others, perhaps. However, one with respect and secretive admiring glances.
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Look at a new 911 or a new GTR, the 911a half in value over 4 years and a GTR drops 20 k in 3. In the old days both cars would have held their value better than most but today nothing new holds any value at all, not matter how rare and exotic unless you buy some thing costinghalf a mil upwards.
Scoobies offer some of the best performance value that todays money can buy.
Just depends on how you look at it.
Scoobies offer some of the best performance value that todays money can buy.
Just depends on how you look at it.
Bang for buck, i really don't know any car that can tick all my boxes and is cheaper and better than a scoob, if i did i'd have it.
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Totally agree, I did put a deposit on a Lotus Elise 111r but they are good at holding their value if you are only putting on 2k miles a year. Might buy one to play with at the weekends as I don't want to mod my scoob too much and kill the fuel economy further.
Will play with the scoob for the summer and see if there is a bargain end of summer to be had on a fair weather Elise owner.
Will play with the scoob for the summer and see if there is a bargain end of summer to be had on a fair weather Elise owner.
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i think the op is talking about running costs minus depreciation etc.
im guessing he has a set amount of money,say 4k to buy a car and is asking the general day to day running costs of a subaru.
having had a few over the years, i would say repair/servicing costs are not expensive and comparable to most cars but the fuel costs are the big problem at the moment.
i do about 350 miles a week,so if i did this in my subaru it would cost me £120/£130 which is just madness.
add on top of that insurance and road tax it makes them very expensive to run.
yes they are a great performance car but i would guess most of us have them because they are they fastest cars we can afford,if i had more money i wouldnt choose a subaru i would have a gtr etc as would most of us i would think.
im guessing he has a set amount of money,say 4k to buy a car and is asking the general day to day running costs of a subaru.
having had a few over the years, i would say repair/servicing costs are not expensive and comparable to most cars but the fuel costs are the big problem at the moment.
i do about 350 miles a week,so if i did this in my subaru it would cost me £120/£130 which is just madness.
add on top of that insurance and road tax it makes them very expensive to run.
yes they are a great performance car but i would guess most of us have them because they are they fastest cars we can afford,if i had more money i wouldnt choose a subaru i would have a gtr etc as would most of us i would think.
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Hi all, thanks for the responses.
Low 20's MPG does sound a killer, about 60-70% of my miles are cruising at 70 on A roads, I think if I could average 28-30 it would be more do-able...
Having said that, they sounds pretty reliable, so 'repair' costs against other things I'm looking at might reduce the fuel burn
Low 20's MPG does sound a killer, about 60-70% of my miles are cruising at 70 on A roads, I think if I could average 28-30 it would be more do-able...
Having said that, they sounds pretty reliable, so 'repair' costs against other things I'm looking at might reduce the fuel burn
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My Impreza was the most reliable car Ive had. I worked out, taking into account insurance, tax, petrol and repair bills the Impreza cost me something like in the region of £300 more over two years than my 1.2l Polo and I had so much more fun in it during that time. The running costs are more spread out with the Impreza as the biggest expense is petrol where as the Polos were one lot of £800 for ABS fault and another lot later down the line of £1200 for the suspension failing. £600 6months later for the electrics etc.
Saying that if I had bought a Honda Jazz I wouldnt be able to make such a comparison.
Saying that if I had bought a Honda Jazz I wouldnt be able to make such a comparison.
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I've just never felt comfortable in a flash motor, and i don't like to own things that i care too much about as it stops me having fun, been there done that.
I just like speed and not bothered how it looks,or what people think of it or me for that matter, as long as it does what i want it to do.
I'm not loaded by any stretch of the imagination, but where theres a will theres a way.
Although i may scratch the porker itch one day.
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