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Old 03 March 2012, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
thank you Ding

I was having a drink with a very old school friend of mine the other day, he is called Asim and his parents came over from Kenya in the late 50’s / early 60’s (we travelled India together for 6 months in 1984)

His father worked for London Transport as a ticket collector (not ticket inspector, a ticket collector) at Sheppard’s Bush underground station

He was a clever guy, and was able to apply that intelligence, drive and aspiration - and now is the senior partner in a firm of solicitors, employing 900 people (he has worked for them when the only had 40 employees) based in Manchester, they work with insurance co’s defending mendacious claims for whiplash etc

As we talked, we asked each other whether after 40 odd years, his success and ability to achieve what he has now (his two children go to Cheadle Hulme school so I suspect life won’t be as hard for them) is easier or harder for the sons of ticket collectors

I suspect they are harder – and i continually ask myself why

Interestingly, as you probably can guess he is a Muslim, back then I had no idea, as it never came up, was never relevant, (we drank, we smoked, we danced) how times change --- often for the worse
And?
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
And?
It's the rags to riches story so beloved by the aspirational middle classes or should I say the embourgeoised proletariat?

I guess there is a kind of guilt operating at some level for grabbing such a big piece of the pie and this is a way to neutralise that. The subject is obviously a 'worthy' person, so 'deserves' his 'success'.
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Old 04 March 2012, 12:13 AM
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I like hodgy I also like Trout I also like f1 The list goes one
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
It seems like this thread is being used to attack one member in particular, a member who has been on this forum for years.
It does, and that is unfair.

To be honest, I'm unsure why people are getting so wound up. Yeah, ok, so Trout has become successful in life and he shares some of the material aspect of that on here....but I haven't really seen anything posted by him that outright looks down on people. And to me there is a difference between somebody who is proud of what they have (and have worked for) and those who do like to belittle others (imo there are a few that do this, naming nobody). Truthfully, alot of what is posted on here could be perceived as 'showing off' in some way, i.e. what mods they have done to cars/spent on them, race results and so on and that is just the car related part.

The thing is, there are alot of people on here all from different walks of life, all with different characters and that is what should make this a good place, not a bad one. Maybe we all need to lighten up a bit and accept our differences. Like I say, imo, there is a big difference beween somebody 'showing off' at best and those who offend and belittle (whether that be in terms of wealth and material possessions or in other ways).

I think it would be a sad day if we lose yet another long term member because some people maybe take him the wrong way.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:00 AM
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Yeah it is unfair to round on Trout.



He's not the only big boaster on here.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
It's the rags to riches story so beloved by the aspirational middle classes or should I say the embourgeoised proletariat?

I guess there is a kind of guilt operating at some level for grabbing such a big piece of the pie and this is a way to neutralise that. The subject is obviously a 'worthy' person, so 'deserves' his 'success'.
Confirmed.

You really are a prize *****.

Tell me - why the jealousy?

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Old 04 March 2012, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yeah it is unfair to round on Trout.



He's not the only big boaster on here.
The worst part is, I have seen comments from you that look down on us less well off folks at times.

I think at times, people don't always think about what they say, or forget. I may well be included. (not about bragging, I never do that)
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Tell me - why the jealousy?
Why would you think I was jealous? Just because you value something doesn't mean others do.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Oh dear Trout's cage is ratled.

Hey Trouty it's nothing to do with the fact you own a Porsche and everything to do with the fact you come across like a ****! HTH
Chris - I like you and i know we've had our differences in the past, but I think you're being unfair.

I've met Trouty, and he's a very decent guy.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
The worst part is, I have seen comments from you that look down on us less well off folks at times.
I'm sorry you got that impression, but I really don't think like that. I am often satirical or using parody or hyperbole sometimes when I write stuff. Normally I use a smilie to signify that.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:15 AM
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Yeah I have joked about the unwashed in tesco, but that is a JOKE.

I even shop in Tesco sometime, although Sainsburies is my preference.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Why would you think I was jealous? Just because you value something doesn't mean others do.

Quite.
You're a pathetic individual.

SN was a better place without you.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Quite.
You're a pathetic individual.

SN was a better place without you.
I guess the love of Jesus passed you by then....
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Quite.
You're a pathetic individual.

SN was a better place without you.
Now now, Sexy. Don't rise to the bait. It's not worth it. Trout (David) knows who his buddies are. I admire him greatly, he's a lovely bloke
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikej857
Sorry to say that SN is not full of muppets but full of ***** who take great pleasure in lording it over the less fortunate who actually have to work for what they have instead of sitting behind a desk pushing a pen about shouting "YOUR FIRED"

Why anyone with a jumped up Volkswagon Beetle feels the need to be a member of a Subaru forum is beyond me, and then plaster the site with photo's of said Volkswagon Beetle in front of there mansion is just ***** waving of epic proportion.

I dont need to brag about how big my **** is or how much money I have or that I have more than 1 property unmortgaged or how many holidays I take a year or exactly what drugs I sell to achieve what I have.

Get a ****ing life and go bore someone else who really cares about how big your bank balance is, or which Volkswagon your now driving, somewhere like the girls off the only way is Essex as this is a Subaru forum FFS

SN has gone downhill and is just a glorified advertising board with adverts on every post its ridiculous
Not. A. Clue.

Have you?
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I guess the love of Jesus passed you by then....
For those that know me....

For the rest of you... I couldn't give a shiny ****e.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee247
Now now, Sexy. Don't rise to the bait. It's not worth it. Trout (David) knows who his buddies are. I admire him greatly, he's a lovely bloke
Hello schweetee...

It's beena long night...
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yeah I have joked about the unwashed in tesco, but that is a JOKE.
I hadn't seen that comment, but maybe similar in the past. This, I think, is one of the problems with the written word. Unless somebody makes it very obvious that they are joking, they can be taken the wrong way. If I have done that with you, then I'm sorry.

But, following on, the same can be said for those seen to be showing off. There is a good chance that that wasn't the intention. Just becasue someone is proud of what they have and they are showing it in an area that lends itself to that, doesn't mean they are rubbing people's noses in it so to speak. There are people on here that genuinely seem to look down on others less well off, in fairness, I wouldn't say Trout was one of them.
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Originally Posted by Lee247
Now now, Sexy. Don't rise to the bait. It's not worth it. Trout (David) knows who his buddies are. I admire him greatly, he's a lovely bloke
I've nothing against Trout really. I am not the one on here calling him a kunt or anything that was Mikej857.

I did make a joke about him boasting, but I hope the smillie next to that let people know it was a joke. Maybe joking around on here doesn't go down too well anymore?

Maybe I should have expressed my deep love for him instead?
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:26 AM
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Shame most of the real Muppets are now not around past and present

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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Yeah I have joked about the unwashed in tesco, but that is a JOKE.

I even shop in Tesco sometime, although Sainsburies is my preference.
Given I work in a shop, going shopping myself is purely done out of necessity and with the knowledge that no matter where I go, it will be unpleasant. So, I go where it's cheapest and as a rule, that is Asda.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I hadn't seen that comment, but maybe similar in the past. This, I think, is one of the problems with the written word. Unless somebody makes it very obvious that they are joking, they can be taken the wrong way. If I have done that with you, then I'm sorry.

But, following on, the same can be said for those seen to be showing off. There is a good chance that that wasn't the intention. Just becasue someone is proud of what they have and they are showing it in an area that lends itself to that, doesn't mean they are rubbing people's noses in it so to speak. There are people on here that genuinely seem to look down on others less well off, in fairness, I wouldn't say Trout was one of them.
Trout is one of the nicest people I have had the fortune to interact with. Sadly I have not met him. Too many people on this board harbor jealousy of those who have made good. They seek to belittle or try to. Trout has made no bones of the fact of his roots. He has shown, you can become something if you try. He knows I do not rate his car, but he is not remotety bothered. So it should be. Mates are mates There are some wonderful people on this site, but by Christ there are some major ar$eholes too.
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Old 04 March 2012, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I've nothing against Trout really. I am not the one on here calling him a kunt or anything that was Mikej857.

I did make a joke about him boasting, but I hope the smillie next to that let people know it was a joke. Maybe joking around on here doesn't go down too well anymore?

Maybe I should have expressed my deep love for him instead?
No, you should just leave him alone. You have tickled me in the past with some good comments. I think you are a nice guy but you do seem, to follow who you think is important and more often than not, they are not important in the least. They are boring. Be yourself and ignore the **** who everyone dislikes
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Old 04 March 2012, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee247
Now now, Sexy. Don't rise to the bait. It's not worth it. Trout (David) knows who his buddies are. I admire him greatly, he's a lovely bloke
You never call me sexy

I can't recall reading any of Trouts posts and thought he's coming across as a snob.If he owns a high value Porsche then nice for him.
This country boils my p1ss sometimes with its attitude and backward/negative thinking.
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Originally Posted by zip106
Chris - I like you and i know we've had our differences in the past, but I think you're being unfair.

I've met Trouty, and he's a very decent guy.
Yeah I know, I am only on a bit of wind up ... mikej's post was sure to get this thread reignited... All good fun. Trout may be an Apple fan but he also likes Naim hifi so he can't be all bad

One thing I didn't realise until the other day though was that you are a Porsche owner.... I only mention it as it is interesting how some people talk about their possessions whereas others don't so much. Doesn't matter either way but interesting nonetheless.
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Old 04 March 2012, 08:38 AM
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PS As for owning a Porsche, not just any old Porsche but one of the finest ever made. I love it. I earned it myself and being a car forum I thought (rightly in many cases) people might want to share my joy of owing such a car. Indeed a number of people from here have been in it and some have driven it.

If you don't like it then take a look in the mirror and wonder what it is that makes you feel like a lesser person because someone else happens to enjoy owning a Porsche.
Whilst we have our differences which i think only adds spice to life i would like to add that your response is well measured and restrained given the abuse directed at you by some and i could not agree more with your comments!

Remember - Illegitimi non carborundum

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What I find incredible is that, in reality, “life” is so simple and consists of a few basic rules and principles - get those right and everything else (whatever that else is) falls into place.

And I am always amazed how hard people find it.

Be respectful and kind to everyone you meet. (whether that someone is working behind the till at a shop or the chairman of an investment bank), basically employ the art of empathy

Be positive, enthusiastic, willing to try and above all smile

and importantly concentrate on your own life not other peoples

I suspect the successful people on here (and I am not talking about bank balances) understand this too

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i think people are forgetting this is the internet ffs grow up! , and for the record i'd much prefer to see trout here than some other **** heads we have here.

i quite like his porsche
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i think people are forgetting this is the internet ffs grow up! , and for the record i'd much prefer to see trout here than some other **** heads we have here.
Ergo you are saying Trout is a **** head???
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No I just wrote it badly.
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