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Old 06 March 2012, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Question to some of you?

What makes you think you have a God given right to not pay to watch F1?

You all seem to accept that to watch live football you have to pay so what's the issue here?
I pay a licence fee, therefore it's not free. When I lived in Tenerife I could watch every race for free. I did not have to pay a licence fee. I did so by turning the volume off and having the BBC R5 commentary on. The same was done in bars. That cost me the price of the beer which I would have drank anyway had I been in the pub.

As for football, I only watch my team when they are on BBC/ITV or ESPN (which is thrown in as a freebie by Virgin - if I remember it's on).

Maybe you should be asking "If you want to watch Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari would you pay?" I doubt many would want to pay Sky prices to watch Marussia 'racing' HRT which is the equivalent of Sunday league football.
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
Les, I understand the concect of paying for the best. That would be valid here if both BBC and SKY were showing all the full races live. You would then have a proper choice of going with the FTA BBC coverage or the super-duper HD SKY paid-for coverage. The situation is that BBC renaged on their contract to provide what they originally were contracted to do, with little regard to those who follow this sport.

The last comment was not aimed at you, so my apologies if it sounded that way. I actually believe you are among the increasingly fewer people who actually have and believe in traditional values.

I re-checked SKY at it's going to be at least £30 per month to get F1. I could probably reduce that if I bundled phone and broadband but that's not possible at the moment as I'm in contract with my current providers. Maybe in a year I'll look at it again. Shame as it's looking like it's going to be a close season if winter testing is anything to go by.
All accepted when you say you did not intend to offend me.

The changes do not affect me of course since I contracted to have Sky some time ago when I had a longish recuperation to put up with at home and had decided to keep it going anyway before any F1 changes were made. It is an expense which I accepted at the time. I am lucky in that the contract changes do not affect me, in fact it may be that I am better off the way it has gone.

I also accept of course that the extra payment needed to be able to see all the F1 is significant, I would find it hard if I had to find an extra £30 in order to see the F1 coverage. It is a bad situation when as you say, the BBC have done what they have especially when we could see it all before having paid our BBC TV licence fee.

Sky as usual has played a blinder, but naturally I shall leave things as they are here. It so happens that I get very poor reception of terrestrial digital TV where I live because of hills etc. and need to have satellite TV in order to see it anyway.

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Old 08 March 2012, 06:49 PM
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Les,

You should be thankful that you have electricity where you are
Old 08 March 2012, 07:21 PM
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http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/32669/1/s...am-online.html
Old 08 March 2012, 08:30 PM
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Old 09 March 2012, 01:53 PM
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Awesome: http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...581434,00.html

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Old 09 March 2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Les,

You should be thankful that you have electricity where you are
Funny you should say that Chip-but you know I am on the very end of the power line too!

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Old 09 March 2012, 03:32 PM
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Old 09 March 2012, 08:00 PM
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The 2012 season preview show right now....
Old 09 March 2012, 08:05 PM
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I've got sound sync problems ?
Old 09 March 2012, 08:08 PM
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Me too!

You can adjust for delay in the menu system.

Or on your AV amp/receiver (seeing as it's in DD).


...So long as the sound is ahead of the video.

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Old 09 March 2012, 08:10 PM
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They need to change ... Not me. Don't think the sound is to hot either.
Is it really HD ? Look normal to me
Old 09 March 2012, 08:15 PM
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I've put the delay to the max 200 milliseconds - pretty much sorted it out.


Yeah defo HD! You must have a bad monitor if you can't suss that.

But it does seem to have a slightly 'soft-edged' feel to it, granted. I've seen better.

Normally, Sky's HD sports fodder are some of the best HD images IMO.

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Old 09 March 2012, 08:45 PM
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Missing jake :-(
Old 09 March 2012, 08:58 PM
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He's still on BBC One HD for 9 of the season's races, though.

BBC are gonna their do their own take on the grid-walk, by having Jake, DC and EJ on the grid before the race! Could be entertaining i.e. mayhem.

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Old 09 March 2012, 09:01 PM
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From what I've watched of the launch show, I'm glad I didn't upgrade.
Old 09 March 2012, 09:07 PM
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I've got to say it seems a little soulless .....

There was a passion with BBC crew
Old 09 March 2012, 09:13 PM
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I like it! Give em time to bed in - remember DC on his first commentary eek!!
Old 09 March 2012, 09:20 PM
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It IS a preview show though. We don't know what quali and race day will hold..... yet.

But I agree - Sky tend to go for the ultra professional, soulless studio analysis angle - and I hate it. I really hope thay can get the atmos of the days across, in the way that the BBC do so brilliantly!..................

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Old 09 March 2012, 09:56 PM
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Well I think it has potential. It is a preview show and they are crammming a lot in, but at least they aren't talking down to us like the BBC and particularly ITV used to do.

Right at the start of the show they mentioned the Concorde Agreement and .... carried on assuming we all know what it is. Perfect! The BBC would have given us a 5 minute explantion of it like they were talking to retarded chimps and ITV would have tried to illustrate what it is by finding a comparable storyline in Coronation St and having it explained as such by a Z list celebrity who probably appeared in something like Big Brother 2007!!

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That's our 'Auntie' Beeb for you. What with their time immemorial mantra: Inform. Educate. Entertain. ...Equals: be condescending/patronising to your audience.


One thing that does look promising on Sky are the technical sections. I love it when they get their snouts in and around the cars and point out new/interesting ****, etc. I really dig it lol

Plus it looks like they've carried over MB's car testing articles, where he goes out on track in F1 cars of years past.

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The stuff you can do via interactive looks really good. Show was a good start to SKY's F1 coverage I would say.
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Originally Posted by Wish
I've got to say it seems a little soulless .....

There was a passion with BBC crew
Got to give them a chance to get used to the job. Jake Thackeray was not that good when he started but he did develop into an excellent presenter in the end.

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Thackeray? Thought it was Humphrey.

I agree - his first couple (unsurprisingly) were a bit 'rabbit in the headlights' - but he soon made the role his own. Plus I like his subtle, dry, barbed comments - esp. to EJ. Makes me smile.
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I'm watching the preview on sky now and I have to say it seems miles better. I'm a nerd and like details and technical info and sky has been very good so far.

I have sky HD anyway and prob wouldn't pay for sports if I didn't as can't stand football it's total bollocks.
If I didn't have it I don't think the fact that BBC are still covering every race albeit not live is not all that bad tbh.

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Old 10 March 2012, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Thackeray? Thought it was Humphrey.
Funnily enough I always think of him as Thakray as well who was a singer songwriter in the 80s.

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This f1 channel is class. Just locked it on channel 408 and hid the remote from the mrs lol! Love the behind the scenes stuff

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Originally Posted by Chip
Funnily enough I always think of him as Thakray as well who was a singer songwriter in the 80s.

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Showing your age there, he was around in the 1960s and 70s
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Originally Posted by XRS
Showing your age there, he was around in the 1960s and 70s
Must have been his later stuff that I remember then


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