JdcTypeR

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I was tempted to run DV less on the 20g but was abit worried that it would cause damage?

alcazar

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See, this is the reason I've all but given over posting about them.

Your questioning of facts is odd. You agree that they cause borewash, amongst other problems, but then ask whether this can actually cause an engine failure.

Have you HAD an engine failure on a Scoob? Surely, anyone with any sense doesn't want one, and will go to high hell and back again to avoid the cost and inconvenience? I know I now do, after sufffering a catastrophic failure caused by ignorance.

You say my repeating of the facts about vta dumpvalves and Baileys in particular are "wearing thin". Do you want people to NOT be given the information? What sort of a site would this be if we all kept schtum for fear of boring someone, and all the newbie's cars exploded?

So where is the sense in fitting something that is KNOWN to cause engine problems, then excusing it by saying, "We don't KNOW for SURE it was that which caused the engine failure."
It's like putting a sub-standard part onto a Ferrari because you liked the weird noise it made. Would anyone do that?

In the end, it's YOUR car. YOU do what YOU want with it.

Just don't cry on here when it's costing you £££'s in repairs, or running like a dog.

barnshaw

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your doing it again, yes i have suffered a major engine failure and experienced that pain.

i am interested in this comment - "What sort of a site would this be if we all kept schtum for fear of boring someone, and all the newbie's cars exploded?"

so again how many peoples cars have exploded because of a VTA dump valve? any examples? genuine question.

you can stick your fingers up or say as you like, however you have no facts, surely a car mapped with a VTA valve will be no less dangerous then a re-circ? the fuelling is surely suited to the map? unless i am missing something?

mickywrx

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Mine didn't, reverted back to a recirc as the noise was getting on my nerves.

Mine hasn't blown up with an FMIC and not being remapped either.

JdcTypeR

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Micky is that has or hasn't blown up as I'm reading it as it hasn't

mickywrx

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Should really check what I type.

Thanks for the heads up mate.

JdcTypeR

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No worries mate

alcazar

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Three points and they will be my last on this thread:

1. When I give out advice, I do so to the best of my knowledge. I don't just say, "Oh it'll be OK, we have no proof. I ALWAYS err on the side of caution, because if I don't, MY ADVICE COULD END UP COSTING SOMEONE ELSE £££'s.

2. When I talk about cars "exploding" I mean catastrophic failure. Been there, seen that and paid for it. Someone else's stupidity cost me my engine. I don't want anyone else in that position because I kept quiet, and NOT JUST ABOUT DUMP VALVES.
Would you have those who advise against the use of a cone filter covered in oil on a 99 car "shut up" too? Or how about those who always warn about using the correct thickness geasket after having the heads skimmed? Or those who warn about geting the map checked after adding XYZ? Should they shut up too because their comments might bore YOU?
It may have escaped your attention that there ARE people, and now FLOODS of them coming onto this site with no basic knowledge of the cars...NONE. Should we NOT tell them stuff because it might bore one member?

3. If you think a car can be "mapped to a vta dumpvalve" then yes, you are missing something. Basic knowledge of mapping, I'd say

As I said, your car, your decision.

If YOU are happy giving out advice to people to do ABC because "it might be ok, we have no evidence it's not", then go for it. (That's what people said about smoking, to draw a parallel).

I am not, and won't.

trevsjwood

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the important thing is to get the car checked after fitting, re-circ or vta and not just fit them *****-nilly which is what most people do, including myself.
I fitted an aftermarket re-circ and suddenly found the car was producing 0.3bar more boost, 1.9bar from 1.6bar. I wouldn't have been aware of this had I not been running a boost gauge.
Trev

barnshaw

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ok if that makes you sleep better at night, still awaiting any form of proof of engines blowing up though due to a VTA, i will keep a keen eye on the thread for when that evidence surfaces

also, since you seem to know i know nothing about mapping, care to explain why a VTA could not be mapped safe?

Sy5

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Just binned my hks sq due to poor running. Standard one back on and all is well.

BrownPantsRacing

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Had mine mapped with the hks ssqv vta. No problems at all. Runs sweet, mapper very happy.

Brun

Never suffered any running problems with my VTA's and am yet to see any evidence which suggests that they do / will cause any engine damage. If i was to jump back in a Scoob however, i'd certainly run a Turbo which is strong enough for no d/v

jura11

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I've run like with DV(Forge VTA) on VF34,which we are run due VF range is not strong as TD/Garrett.

Now we are running MDX321T and we are running DVless.

I prefer run DVless,but on some turbo i wouldn't run/advice to run DVless,about the OE recirc or VTA DV,if i would stick with DV i would go again and again with Forge VTA(Bailey are not the best bet)

Failures engines(MAF related problems) and DV this is known on Classic and on new age i never heard.


Jura

Carlh

HKS SQV III sounds nice, not too loud but loud enough.

barnshaw

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oh right, so all the above people who used VTA's with no problems how did you get your cars mapped with them if you cant map VTA's?

BrownPantsRacing

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You can map a vta. That's what I have fitted. That's why I can run mine without any running problems or worries!

coldflame90

I knew id get burnt for asking for a loud dump valve mind.When my dad used to have his he had a baileys on it and it ran fine. what are the turbosmart ones like? I had a forge split r on my leon which flashed the engine management light due to the way vag engines run so i know that vta can be dangerous but I like them so its my preference.

thanks for the replys guys keep them coming

alcazar

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EFA