Very naughty doggie.
23 March 2012, 12:04 PM
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Ah, so the dog misunderstood ..
FFS, You hindsight armchair warrior
There's some of my mates involved in that job, and by the look of things some may have LIFE CHANGING INJURIES, know what that means? Good bye career and perminant injuries all from doing their job.
And how the **** are we supposed to know who or exactly what is waiting for us inside a house, no one will ever know that.
It's nice to see that Cops are going to lock someone up and you're all more bothered about the dog other than the fact that the dog's seriously injured these Police Officers
Im late off a night shift after dealing with some Stellered up Wayne who threw a stressie at his missus and decided to rearrange her face, I'm so sick of the idiotic comments on here when it comes to the Police
There's some of my mates involved in that job, and by the look of things some may have LIFE CHANGING INJURIES, know what that means? Good bye career and perminant injuries all from doing their job.
And how the **** are we supposed to know who or exactly what is waiting for us inside a house, no one will ever know that.
It's nice to see that Cops are going to lock someone up and you're all more bothered about the dog other than the fact that the dog's seriously injured these Police Officers
Im late off a night shift after dealing with some Stellered up Wayne who threw a stressie at his missus and decided to rearrange her face, I'm so sick of the idiotic comments on here when it comes to the Police
I'm not trained to deal with raids, but it seems logical to me, you do some kind of surveillance before hand ?
You can jump down from your orange box now, I wish the officers a speedy recovery, but someone hasn't done their job correctly. If the situation is unknown, why didn't they send in a dog unit ? or wear protective clothing ?
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Sorry thats typical plod doing things half arsed yet again.
If they had doneany home work and identified the guy had a god why not get the RSPCA in with their lassoo`s on pole`s the graspers??
My dog is scared of its own shadow, but if you went for me or my family it would try and attack you. Its what dogs do, so the police should have thought about it.
And what a waste of tax-payers money coming out to shoot a dog, sure SO19 had better things to do. And if the dog had been contained why not get the RSPCA to remove it, instead of shooting it?
One rule for us yet another for them.
If they had doneany home work and identified the guy had a god why not get the RSPCA in with their lassoo`s on pole`s the graspers??
My dog is scared of its own shadow, but if you went for me or my family it would try and attack you. Its what dogs do, so the police should have thought about it.
And what a waste of tax-payers money coming out to shoot a dog, sure SO19 had better things to do. And if the dog had been contained why not get the RSPCA to remove it, instead of shooting it?
One rule for us yet another for them.
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More of an understanding that sympathy. If someone attacked you, I'd hope your dog would defend you ? regardless of who the person is..
Now this dog was clearly unhinged and could very well have attacked a child or someone passing by, so I don't think killing it was a bad move, what I do think was retarded, was the police busting into a house either not knowing it was there, or not being ready for it.
Now this dog was clearly unhinged and could very well have attacked a child or someone passing by, so I don't think killing it was a bad move, what I do think was retarded, was the police busting into a house either not knowing it was there, or not being ready for it.
How do you tell in advance if a dog is unhinged? I couldn't possibly say which way my dog would have behaved if he had been pushed far enough.
In a guarding situation dogs are a sacrificial 'tool' and also mostly entirely unpredictable. If the dog gets hurt in the course of things, or is deemed to have used unnecessary force, then its consequential loss has to be part of the deal. I wouldn't try and justify my dog had he behaved in a similar manner in the same circumstances as the dog in the news article.
As for the police action being questionable, they can't ***** foot around every suspected villain they come across. If there is an undisclosed threat waiting for them, as this case apparently shows, then they have to deal with it.
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The MET haven't dished out Tazers as Jenny Jones, Green party mayor nominee, is part of a group who fought against their use.
Funny thing is they're the most effective bit of kit ever issued. Want a nutter to put down his machete and be as friendly as a little puppy in 0.5 seconds?, red dot him with your tazer simples, it works
And equally jenny Jones is quoted in the media asking why wasn't the dog tazered, why did the firearms team have to turn up cause it cost's so much. Clearly the welfare of the injured cops means nowt to that length
But Tazer will only work once before it has to be reloaded which can be fiddly, especially when a pitbull's chewing your arm off.
Trying to a small target thrashing around, no thanks, Id end up taking my colleagues out! Plus what happens when the 5 seconds of shock are over, it not going to give up is it!
The dog had done some nasty injuries to the other cops before the filming began so a few were in quite a mess from what i understand.
Remember folks, all these cop shows on telly that show all the gucci kit that Police have are NOT what it's like on the front line. remember Derbyshire had all their Evo's provided to them by the production team behind Police Interceptors
Just bear that in mind when we try and fight back these savage cuts that the Gov want
Funny thing is they're the most effective bit of kit ever issued. Want a nutter to put down his machete and be as friendly as a little puppy in 0.5 seconds?, red dot him with your tazer simples, it works
And equally jenny Jones is quoted in the media asking why wasn't the dog tazered, why did the firearms team have to turn up cause it cost's so much. Clearly the welfare of the injured cops means nowt to that length
But Tazer will only work once before it has to be reloaded which can be fiddly, especially when a pitbull's chewing your arm off.
Trying to a small target thrashing around, no thanks, Id end up taking my colleagues out! Plus what happens when the 5 seconds of shock are over, it not going to give up is it!
The dog had done some nasty injuries to the other cops before the filming began so a few were in quite a mess from what i understand.
Remember folks, all these cop shows on telly that show all the gucci kit that Police have are NOT what it's like on the front line. remember Derbyshire had all their Evo's provided to them by the production team behind Police Interceptors
Just bear that in mind when we try and fight back these savage cuts that the Gov want
Not all tazers are ones that are fired from range, some are just direct contract. Put it on max, keep zaping until battery dies.
Besides I wasn't talking about the cop with the dog hanging off his arm/leg, but one of his colleagues using it.
I know we only saw part of the video but what vid we did see, showed one cop dealing with dog on his own virtually. He could be dead if it got his neck, and some bigger and more powerful breed just rip off your thigh or calf muscles and you die. Didn't seem like the best way to deal with the dog, one guy is hopeless on his own, 3, 4 coordinating together as a unit can kick it, punch it hold it, smash its head with a brick etc.
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There's one way to deal with dogs in this situation and it's a shotgun. Dogs don't have a right to a fair trial.
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Ok I'll bite, pun intended.
The RSPCA wouldn't go as there may be the slightest hint of confrontation, and they don’t do confrontation. That's the Police's job, same as the Fire Brigade and Ambulance won’t go to any address where their systems tell there's been a hint of confrontation without a Plod escort.
We used to have special dog shields and special long poles with a retraceable hoop on but they're locked away in cupboards and can only be used by those having done the correct training course. Sadly no one I know can use them as no one can be released from their response shift to go on the course as we're too busy dealing with everyday stuff and there aren’t enough cops about to cover the gaps. In fact Officer Safety Training is now done as part of a computer course as there's so little chance of being able to get released to do the obligatory two day once a year course, even then it's very gentle, too gentle
And Warrants on addresses are our bread and butter. If we tried to send in a specialist kitted up dangerous dogs squad to every warrant with a cross bullterrer, we’d never have the resources do do a single bloody one!
As for getting intel before a search is carried out. Yup in ideal circumstances we’d have loads of Gucci info knowing everything that’s in the house but sadly seeing as we don’t need ‘back room’ staff anymore there’s no one to collate the intelligence forms we submit thus the intel systems are way way behind and are often totally out of date.
Also one of my mates had the worst injury of his career when he arrested someone with no previous history and no intelligence against him.
This was a career medical professional and the sort of person you wouldn’t expect to go rucking with cops. But he did and my mate now has a nice huge scar on his arm where a big chunk of flesh was bit out
This is exactly what I was on about when I said Armchair Warrior.
Easy to say 'this should have been done or that' sat at a computer long after the fact.
I've seen a dog hit with a fire extinguisher, all that did was make it madder. Tazering a dog will just turn it into the incredible hulk’s dog.
All Tazers can be used in direct contact. They fire the barbs from a bit that’s clipped on to the front of the Tazer.
One of those cops seen walking off has serious injuries to his hand and is likely to loose fingers.
The RSPCA wouldn't go as there may be the slightest hint of confrontation, and they don’t do confrontation. That's the Police's job, same as the Fire Brigade and Ambulance won’t go to any address where their systems tell there's been a hint of confrontation without a Plod escort.
We used to have special dog shields and special long poles with a retraceable hoop on but they're locked away in cupboards and can only be used by those having done the correct training course. Sadly no one I know can use them as no one can be released from their response shift to go on the course as we're too busy dealing with everyday stuff and there aren’t enough cops about to cover the gaps. In fact Officer Safety Training is now done as part of a computer course as there's so little chance of being able to get released to do the obligatory two day once a year course, even then it's very gentle, too gentle
And Warrants on addresses are our bread and butter. If we tried to send in a specialist kitted up dangerous dogs squad to every warrant with a cross bullterrer, we’d never have the resources do do a single bloody one!
As for getting intel before a search is carried out. Yup in ideal circumstances we’d have loads of Gucci info knowing everything that’s in the house but sadly seeing as we don’t need ‘back room’ staff anymore there’s no one to collate the intelligence forms we submit thus the intel systems are way way behind and are often totally out of date.
Also one of my mates had the worst injury of his career when he arrested someone with no previous history and no intelligence against him.
This was a career medical professional and the sort of person you wouldn’t expect to go rucking with cops. But he did and my mate now has a nice huge scar on his arm where a big chunk of flesh was bit out
Not all tazers are ones that are fired from range, some are just direct contract. Put it on max, keep zaping until battery dies.
Besides I wasn't talking about the cop with the dog hanging off his arm/leg, but one of his colleagues using it.
I know we only saw part of the video but what vid we did see, showed one cop dealing with dog on his own virtually. He could be dead if it got his neck, and some bigger and more powerful breed just rip off your thigh or calf muscles and you die. Didn't seem like the best way to deal with the dog, one guy is hopeless on his own, 3, 4 coordinating together as a unit can kick it, punch it hold it, smash its head with a brick etc.
Besides I wasn't talking about the cop with the dog hanging off his arm/leg, but one of his colleagues using it.
I know we only saw part of the video but what vid we did see, showed one cop dealing with dog on his own virtually. He could be dead if it got his neck, and some bigger and more powerful breed just rip off your thigh or calf muscles and you die. Didn't seem like the best way to deal with the dog, one guy is hopeless on his own, 3, 4 coordinating together as a unit can kick it, punch it hold it, smash its head with a brick etc.
Easy to say 'this should have been done or that' sat at a computer long after the fact.
I've seen a dog hit with a fire extinguisher, all that did was make it madder. Tazering a dog will just turn it into the incredible hulk’s dog.
All Tazers can be used in direct contact. They fire the barbs from a bit that’s clipped on to the front of the Tazer.
One of those cops seen walking off has serious injuries to his hand and is likely to loose fingers.
23 March 2012, 02:01 PM
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I'm sorry but from that footage they don't look as though they have a clue how to deal with any dog let a lone a dangerous one. They appear to be running around the street with it either hanging on or trying to back away from it letting it chase them and making lots of noise. That just makes the dog worse by exciting it.
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This is exactly what I was on about when I said Armchair Warrior.
Easy to say 'this should have been done or that' sat at a computer long after the fact.
I've seen a dog hit with a fire extinguisher, all that did was make it madder. Tazering a dog will just turn it into the incredible hulk’s dog.
All Tazers can be used in direct contact. They fire the barbs from a bit that’s clipped on to the front of the Tazer.
One of those cops seen walking off has serious injuries to his hand and is likely to loose fingers.
Easy to say 'this should have been done or that' sat at a computer long after the fact.
I've seen a dog hit with a fire extinguisher, all that did was make it madder. Tazering a dog will just turn it into the incredible hulk’s dog.
All Tazers can be used in direct contact. They fire the barbs from a bit that’s clipped on to the front of the Tazer.
One of those cops seen walking off has serious injuries to his hand and is likely to loose fingers.
The Dog was just being gentle of course, wouldn't want to provoke it.
That's why it was shot.
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That video is sickening.
Makes me laugh when people offer advice such as "give it a good kicking" or "hit it with a brick". Do that and you'd better have somewhere safe to hide, that'll really wind it up.
If you've ever seen a video of one of these dogs in a fight you will know they are relentless and fight to the death in spite of horrific injuries. You might as well ask it nicely to please let go
, and you can do that while it has your arm/leg/anything-that-fits in a man-trap set of jaws with around 300 pounds of pressure behind them.
Hit it with a brick huh? It took four gun shots to kill it FFS.
Makes me laugh when people offer advice such as "give it a good kicking" or "hit it with a brick". Do that and you'd better have somewhere safe to hide, that'll really wind it up.
If you've ever seen a video of one of these dogs in a fight you will know they are relentless and fight to the death in spite of horrific injuries. You might as well ask it nicely to please let go
, and you can do that while it has your arm/leg/anything-that-fits in a man-trap set of jaws with around 300 pounds of pressure behind them.Hit it with a brick huh? It took four gun shots to kill it FFS.
23 March 2012, 06:02 PM
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My old boy has fronted unwelcome visitors for me on two occasions, fortunately without having to resort to savagery.
How do you tell in advance if a dog is unhinged? I couldn't possibly say which way my dog would have behaved if he had been pushed far enough.
In a guarding situation dogs are a sacrificial 'tool' and also mostly entirely unpredictable. If the dog gets hurt in the course of things, or is deemed to have used unnecessary force, then its consequential loss has to be part of the deal. I wouldn't try and justify my dog had he behaved in a similar manner in the same circumstances as the dog in the news article.
As for the police action being questionable, they can't ***** foot around every suspected villain they come across. If there is an undisclosed threat waiting for them, as this case apparently shows, then they have to deal with it.
How do you tell in advance if a dog is unhinged? I couldn't possibly say which way my dog would have behaved if he had been pushed far enough.
In a guarding situation dogs are a sacrificial 'tool' and also mostly entirely unpredictable. If the dog gets hurt in the course of things, or is deemed to have used unnecessary force, then its consequential loss has to be part of the deal. I wouldn't try and justify my dog had he behaved in a similar manner in the same circumstances as the dog in the news article.
As for the police action being questionable, they can't ***** foot around every suspected villain they come across. If there is an undisclosed threat waiting for them, as this case apparently shows, then they have to deal with it.
You have to assume the dog is a threat and take reasonable action to control it. If you don't, then these things will happen ..
Yes its part of their job, but in my opinion running into a house with a dog, especially a dog with the physical strength to do damage is stupid. Dog handler in first, or guys in riot gear.
I'm sorry but from that footage they don't look as though they have a clue how to deal with any dog let a lone a dangerous one. They appear to be running around the street with it either hanging on or trying to back away from it letting it chase them and making lots of noise. That just makes the dog worse by exciting it.
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That video is sickening.
Makes me laugh when people offer advice such as "give it a good kicking" or "hit it with a brick". Do that and you'd better have somewhere safe to hide, that'll really wind it up.
If you've ever seen a video of one of these dogs in a fight you will know they are relentless and fight to the death in spite of horrific injuries. You might as well ask it nicely to please let go, and you can do that while it has your arm/leg/anything-that-fits in a man-trap set of jaws with around 300 pounds of pressure behind them.
Hit it with a brick huh? It took four gun shots to kill it FFS.
Makes me laugh when people offer advice such as "give it a good kicking" or "hit it with a brick". Do that and you'd better have somewhere safe to hide, that'll really wind it up.
If you've ever seen a video of one of these dogs in a fight you will know they are relentless and fight to the death in spite of horrific injuries. You might as well ask it nicely to please let go
, and you can do that while it has your arm/leg/anything-that-fits in a man-trap set of jaws with around 300 pounds of pressure behind them.Hit it with a brick huh? It took four gun shots to kill it FFS.
Make you mind up.
There are relentless which is the problem.
Which is why if they are attacking you, you cannot hope to appease it. It won't back away and will keep coming. So what should you do? Nothing?
I'm just pointing out the contradictions in your argument.
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I'm sorry but from that footage they don't look as though they have a clue how to deal with any dog let a lone a dangerous one. They appear to be running around the street with it either hanging on or trying to back away from it letting it chase them and making lots of noise. That just makes the dog worse by exciting it.
Sure we are being armchair hindsighters but there must be a better procedure than to all stand on walls whilst one officer is possibly being mauled to death.
23 March 2012, 06:10 PM
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That video is sickening.
Makes me laugh when people offer advice such as "give it a good kicking" or "hit it with a brick". Do that and you'd better have somewhere safe to hide, that'll really wind it up.
If you've ever seen a video of one of these dogs in a fight you will know they are relentless and fight to the death in spite of horrific injuries. You might as well ask it nicely to please let go, and you can do that while it has your arm/leg/anything-that-fits in a man-trap set of jaws with around 300 pounds of pressure behind them.
Hit it with a brick huh? It took four gun shots to kill it FFS.
Makes me laugh when people offer advice such as "give it a good kicking" or "hit it with a brick". Do that and you'd better have somewhere safe to hide, that'll really wind it up.
If you've ever seen a video of one of these dogs in a fight you will know they are relentless and fight to the death in spite of horrific injuries. You might as well ask it nicely to please let go
, and you can do that while it has your arm/leg/anything-that-fits in a man-trap set of jaws with around 300 pounds of pressure behind them.Hit it with a brick huh? It took four gun shots to kill it FFS.
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Yeah that worked out well for them, some poor ******* losing his figures and the others with bits hanging off them.
You have to assume the dog is a threat and take reasonable action to control it. If you don't, then these things will happen ..
Yes its part of their job, but in my opinion running into a house with a dog, especially a dog with the physical strength to do damage is stupid. Dog handler in first, or guys in riot gear.
You have to assume the dog is a threat and take reasonable action to control it. If you don't, then these things will happen ..
Yes its part of their job, but in my opinion running into a house with a dog, especially a dog with the physical strength to do damage is stupid. Dog handler in first, or guys in riot gear.
If the police go to an arrest knowing firearms are present, they go suitably equipped. I don't think this squad was expecting the short nosed, long legged Alligator
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So don't wind it up, but it's fighting to the death?
Make you mind up.
There are relentless which is the problem.
Which is why if they are attacking you, you cannot hope to appease it. It won't back away and will keep coming. So what should you do? Nothing?
I'm just pointing out the contradictions in your argument.
Make you mind up.
There are relentless which is the problem.
Which is why if they are attacking you, you cannot hope to appease it. It won't back away and will keep coming. So what should you do? Nothing?
I'm just pointing out the contradictions in your argument.
Again, what you have written is based on the requirement of a degree of previous knowledge, i.e. going equipped to deal with a specific threat that you know exists, which doesn't appear to have been possible in this case.
23 March 2012, 06:49 PM
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Bollocks
They will have smashed the door in, and gone charging in in true "raid" style. Instinctively to a dog that is a serious threat. My two may well react exactly the same in those circumstances.
Difference being that I'm unlikley to be the subject a raid.
Police intelligence should have alerted them to the presence of the dog and they should have acted accordingly, that's why I've got no sympathy for them. Comparing that to a child being bitten in the street is ridiculous.
They will have smashed the door in, and gone charging in in true "raid" style. Instinctively to a dog that is a serious threat. My two may well react exactly the same in those circumstances.
Difference being that I'm unlikley to be the subject a raid.
Police intelligence should have alerted them to the presence of the dog and they should have acted accordingly, that's why I've got no sympathy for them. Comparing that to a child being bitten in the street is ridiculous.
23 March 2012, 07:12 PM
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The whole thing smacks of being an utter shambles. I would take a guess that if one of the experienced police dog handlers had been called to the scene, he would have (with the aid of the protective training suits) been able to subdue that dog without getting hurt for it to then be destroyed appropriately - not being blasted 4 times with a shotgun on a pavement in East London
23 March 2012, 07:42 PM
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I do understand your point Pimmo, but it comes across as based on the assumption that there was previous knowledge that there was a dog of that nature on site.
If the police go to an arrest knowing firearms are present, they go suitably equipped. I don't think this squad was expecting the short nosed, long legged Alligator
If the police go to an arrest knowing firearms are present, they go suitably equipped. I don't think this squad was expecting the short nosed, long legged Alligator
If the reports are to be believed a shotgun was used to shoot the dog, hardly an appropriate firearm to humanely destroy an animal in public view. This was only after officers with riot shields were brought in to corner the dog.
The whole thing smacks of being an utter shambles. I would take a guess that if one of the experienced police dog handlers had been called to the scene, he would have (with the aid of the protective training suits) been able to subdue that dog without getting hurt for it to then be destroyed appropriately - not being blasted 4 times with a shotgun on a pavement in East London
The whole thing smacks of being an utter shambles. I would take a guess that if one of the experienced police dog handlers had been called to the scene, he would have (with the aid of the protective training suits) been able to subdue that dog without getting hurt for it to then be destroyed appropriately - not being blasted 4 times with a shotgun on a pavement in East London
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Bollocks
They will have smashed the door in, and gone charging in in true "raid" style. Instinctively to a dog that is a serious threat. My two may well react exactly the same in those circumstances.
Difference being that I'm unlikley to be the subject a raid.
Police intelligence should have alerted them to the presence of the dog and they should have acted accordingly, that's why I've got no sympathy for them. Comparing that to a child being bitten in the street is ridiculous.
They will have smashed the door in, and gone charging in in true "raid" style. Instinctively to a dog that is a serious threat. My two may well react exactly the same in those circumstances.
Difference being that I'm unlikley to be the subject a raid.
Police intelligence should have alerted them to the presence of the dog and they should have acted accordingly, that's why I've got no sympathy for them. Comparing that to a child being bitten in the street is ridiculous.
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There are no contradictions in what I have said.
Again, what you have written is based on the requirement of a degree of previous knowledge, i.e. going equipped to deal with a specific threat that you know exists, which doesn't appear to have been possible in this case.
Again, what you have written is based on the requirement of a degree of previous knowledge, i.e. going equipped to deal with a specific threat that you know exists, which doesn't appear to have been possible in this case.
There must be an optimal 'procedure'?
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BIL had a lovely dog never bit or nipped anyone, went mad one day attacked a much smaller dog & killed it. Owner kicked off & had his dog put down ...
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I really wonder about some of the people posting on here now, all those who are saying the dog was treated badly etc, are you serious?
That dog deserved to be shot plain and simple, for me the only thing they did wrong was one of the officers colleagues not stamping on the damn things back to get it off. It it injured the dog or caused it pain then so what?
I have personally seen someone have to hit this type of dog with a fire extinguisher before to get it off a person.
Before anyone accuses me of being an animal hater I've owned greyhounds for the last 20 years and love dogs but that was out of control.
The officers were doing their job, and those saying they should have done recces or called the RSPCA. In an ideal worlds that may happen but with the ammount of idiots having these status dogs now it's not realistic.
That dog deserved to be shot plain and simple, for me the only thing they did wrong was one of the officers colleagues not stamping on the damn things back to get it off. It it injured the dog or caused it pain then so what?
I have personally seen someone have to hit this type of dog with a fire extinguisher before to get it off a person.
Before anyone accuses me of being an animal hater I've owned greyhounds for the last 20 years and love dogs but that was out of control.
The officers were doing their job, and those saying they should have done recces or called the RSPCA. In an ideal worlds that may happen but with the ammount of idiots having these status dogs now it's not realistic.
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It's not the dog it' the owner..................... by the way, heres a picture of my dog.
Funny how people with dogs have mental blocks when it comes to the posibility that the Dog is simply an anathema to society.
Ever read a story where some teen jobless drug taking hoodie knifes somebody and then the masses come out saying "It's not the kid it's the parents......by the way, heres a picture of my son".
Anybody on here who doesn't own a dog think that it's always the owner rather than the dog?
Funny how people with dogs have mental blocks when it comes to the posibility that the Dog is simply an anathema to society.
Ever read a story where some teen jobless drug taking hoodie knifes somebody and then the masses come out saying "It's not the kid it's the parents......by the way, heres a picture of my son".
Anybody on here who doesn't own a dog think that it's always the owner rather than the dog?
23 March 2012, 08:31 PM
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I really wonder about some of the people posting on here now, all those who are saying the dog was treated badly etc, are you serious?
That dog deserved to be shot plain and simple, for me the only thing they did wrong was one of the officers colleagues not stamping on the damn things back to get it off. It it injured the dog or caused it pain then so what?
Before anyone accuses me of being an animal hater I've owned greyhounds for the last 20 years and love dogs but that was out of control.
The officers were doing their job, and those saying they should have done recces or called the RSPCA. In an ideal worlds that may happen but with the ammount of idiots having these status dogs now it's not realistic.
That dog deserved to be shot plain and simple, for me the only thing they did wrong was one of the officers colleagues not stamping on the damn things back to get it off. It it injured the dog or caused it pain then so what?
Before anyone accuses me of being an animal hater I've owned greyhounds for the last 20 years and love dogs but that was out of control.
The officers were doing their job, and those saying they should have done recces or called the RSPCA. In an ideal worlds that may happen but with the ammount of idiots having these status dogs now it's not realistic.
The violence the dog showed, had this been a gang of car jackers would have been excellent, but because it was the police doing their job, its the worst dog in the world and deserves to be hurt ?
Take your face for a ****, the dog needed to be put down because its owner has obviously made it dangerous, but it needed to be put down in a control manner, without the undue suffering to the dog or the police.
23 March 2012, 08:33 PM
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It's not the dog it' the owner..................... by the way, heres a picture of my dog.
Funny how people with dogs have mental blocks when it comes to the posibility that the Dog is simply an anathema to society.
Ever read a story where some teen jobless drug taking hoodie knifes somebody and then the masses come out saying "It's not the kid it's the parents......by the way, heres a picture of my son".
Anybody on here who doesn't own a dog think that it's always the owner rather than the dog?
Funny how people with dogs have mental blocks when it comes to the posibility that the Dog is simply an anathema to society.
Ever read a story where some teen jobless drug taking hoodie knifes somebody and then the masses come out saying "It's not the kid it's the parents......by the way, heres a picture of my son".
Anybody on here who doesn't own a dog think that it's always the owner rather than the dog?
The dog defended the owner, the dog was in the right to do that, the level of aggression is down to the owner training the dog.