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12 April 2012 | 06:41 PM
#151
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hearsay hearsay..is that all you have to say on the matter?
the engine on my car was not touched after aj mapped the car last year.and owners problems happened after car was worked on there,ie 2k for a simtek and injectors.
so if i meet a scooby owner in plymouth,whose selling me some parts and he tells me hes also had a simtek fitted at aj and had the same problems im not to believe him?
what does he stand to gain from telling me this info? nothing,makes no difference to him.
what more do you need to know about the s13 and its issues? it popped on the dyno after being pushed to far by the mapper,end of.
most businesses establish there name and get work through word of mouth,if youre friends had bad experiences at a garage,would you use said garage? doubtful..
and really after all this,what do i stand to gain from this?
my car isnt being fixed there (never asked)
everyone has pretty much sided against me
everyone can speak their mind,regardless of what company it is about.
if it is all so trivial,then why wont alan comment af any of these so called "stories" ive mentioned??
the engine on my car was not touched after aj mapped the car last year.and owners problems happened after car was worked on there,ie 2k for a simtek and injectors.
so if i meet a scooby owner in plymouth,whose selling me some parts and he tells me hes also had a simtek fitted at aj and had the same problems im not to believe him?
what does he stand to gain from telling me this info? nothing,makes no difference to him.
what more do you need to know about the s13 and its issues? it popped on the dyno after being pushed to far by the mapper,end of.
most businesses establish there name and get work through word of mouth,if youre friends had bad experiences at a garage,would you use said garage? doubtful..
and really after all this,what do i stand to gain from this?
my car isnt being fixed there (never asked)
everyone has pretty much sided against me
everyone can speak their mind,regardless of what company it is about.
if it is all so trivial,then why wont alan comment af any of these so called "stories" ive mentioned??
Come on, we want hard facts not hearsay . He said she said is not fact. It would not stand up in court and it will not stand up here either.
12 April 2012 | 06:53 PM
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It is not normal for someone to just give up with getting a car sorted after spending £2000 on it ( I think most of us would agree ) , yet your mate ( or the guy your mate bought it off ) decided "Nope , not going to bother a third time and going to drive it fooked " , to then sell it on and rant on about how he was duped .
This whole attitude of yours with mud throwing against the mappers is so mad it's rhubarb!
If I've heard from a mate that you like to wear womens cloths and have intercourse with rubber chicken , does that make it a statement of fact? Because your actions and post are just as crazy.
This whole attitude of yours with mud throwing against the mappers is so mad it's rhubarb!
If I've heard from a mate that you like to wear womens cloths and have intercourse with rubber chicken , does that make it a statement of fact? Because your actions and post are just as crazy.
12 April 2012 | 06:59 PM
#154
It is not normal for someone to just give up with getting a car sorted after spending £2000 on it ( I think most of us would agree ) , yet your mate ( or the guy your mate bought it off ) decided "Nope , not going to bother a third time and going to drive it fooked " , to then sell it on and rant on about how he was duped .
This whole attitude of yours with mud throwing against the mappers is so mad it's rhubarb!
If I've heard from a mate that you like to wear womens cloths and have intercourse with rubber chicken , does that make it a statement of fact? Because your actions and post are just as crazy.
This whole attitude of yours with mud throwing against the mappers is so mad it's rhubarb!
If I've heard from a mate that you like to wear womens cloths and have intercourse with rubber chicken , does that make it a statement of fact? Because your actions and post are just as crazy.
ive also heard of atleast 3 other people with the same problem!
12 April 2012 | 07:07 PM
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think its about time to reflect on this thread.
there is a post on the first or second page with a quote from something harvey wrote.
as far im aware he is a respected member on here judging by the sticky in GD.
he says that the cold start and rough idle issues after a simtek is fitted
are down to the mapping.
seems plausable to me.
so my cars original owner had this problem
so did 3 other people ive spoken with in the last few weeks.
plus the s13 incident and others
yet AJ where all the work was carried out,are not at fault??
there is a post on the first or second page with a quote from something harvey wrote.
as far im aware he is a respected member on here judging by the sticky in GD.
he says that the cold start and rough idle issues after a simtek is fitted
are down to the mapping.
seems plausable to me.
so my cars original owner had this problem
so did 3 other people ive spoken with in the last few weeks.
plus the s13 incident and others
yet AJ where all the work was carried out,are not at fault??
12 April 2012 | 07:19 PM
#158
just read all this thread and unless i missed something NO ONE has mentioned that the 1st edition simtek had no closed loop knock control and no closed loop idle control ( both facilities that are vital imho) no knock retard ooh dear bang bang on a dodgy batch of fuel or a air leak . and closed loop idle control self explanatory rearly (constantly monitors and adjusts the idle to the preset parramater ie 950rpm
12 April 2012 | 07:54 PM
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12 April 2012 | 07:55 PM
#160
hes never got me one ,love bacon bap
12 April 2012 | 08:03 PM
#161
Surely anyone having their car mapped and put on a dyno knows there are risks involved and knows full well what they are!!!
I know of a couple of places that insist on signing a disclaimer before even putting it on the dyno, If you don't want to risk damaging your car don't mod it, simples!
I know of a couple of places that insist on signing a disclaimer before even putting it on the dyno, If you don't want to risk damaging your car don't mod it, simples!
12 April 2012 | 08:24 PM
#162
Just my 2pence worth (if that)
I can see what JME-RST is getting at.
I had a similair scenario when i bought my 1st scoob, it was a sport.
It had just had a new clutch and flywheel fitted, the receipt was dated 1 month prior to me buying it and the mileage tallied up, i think 600 miles had been covered in that time.
on the test drive it had clutch judder, being new to scoobs, didnt know it was a known fault, upon getting home THEN doing my homework LOL i phoned the garage who did the clutch job and told them it had judder, i didnt mention i was a new owner,it was never needed to be mentioned, they told me to bring the car back and they`d look at it, but, they were 400 odd miles away from me so i never did and got it sorted elsewhere.
Not quite the same scenario as this thread, but i dont see a problem with contacting a garage that did the work even if you are a new owner (if the work was something that couldnt be made worse by the previous owner, tyre wear/wheel spinning etc)
I can see what JME-RST is getting at.
I had a similair scenario when i bought my 1st scoob, it was a sport.
It had just had a new clutch and flywheel fitted, the receipt was dated 1 month prior to me buying it and the mileage tallied up, i think 600 miles had been covered in that time.
on the test drive it had clutch judder, being new to scoobs, didnt know it was a known fault, upon getting home THEN doing my homework LOL i phoned the garage who did the clutch job and told them it had judder, i didnt mention i was a new owner,it was never needed to be mentioned, they told me to bring the car back and they`d look at it, but, they were 400 odd miles away from me so i never did and got it sorted elsewhere.
Not quite the same scenario as this thread, but i dont see a problem with contacting a garage that did the work even if you are a new owner (if the work was something that couldnt be made worse by the previous owner, tyre wear/wheel spinning etc)
12 April 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Just my 2pence worth (if that)
I can see what JME-RST is getting at.
I had a similair scenario when i bought my 1st scoob, it was a sport.
It had just had a new clutch and flywheel fitted, the receipt was dated 1 month prior to me buying it and the mileage tallied up, i think 600 miles had been covered in that time.
on the test drive it had clutch judder, being new to scoobs, didnt know it was a known fault, upon getting home THEN doing my homework LOL i phoned the garage who did the clutch job and told them it had judder, i didnt mention i was a new owner,it was never needed to be mentioned, they told me to bring the car back and they`d look at it, but, they were 400 odd miles away from me so i never did and got it sorted elsewhere.
Not quite the same scenario as this thread, but i dont see a problem with contacting a garage that did the work even if you are a new owner (if the work was something that couldnt be made worse by the previous owner, tyre wear/wheel spinning etc)
I can see what JME-RST is getting at.
I had a similair scenario when i bought my 1st scoob, it was a sport.
It had just had a new clutch and flywheel fitted, the receipt was dated 1 month prior to me buying it and the mileage tallied up, i think 600 miles had been covered in that time.
on the test drive it had clutch judder, being new to scoobs, didnt know it was a known fault, upon getting home THEN doing my homework LOL i phoned the garage who did the clutch job and told them it had judder, i didnt mention i was a new owner,it was never needed to be mentioned, they told me to bring the car back and they`d look at it, but, they were 400 odd miles away from me so i never did and got it sorted elsewhere.
Not quite the same scenario as this thread, but i dont see a problem with contacting a garage that did the work even if you are a new owner (if the work was something that couldnt be made worse by the previous owner, tyre wear/wheel spinning etc)
12 April 2012 | 08:43 PM
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think its about time to reflect on this thread.
there is a post on the first or second page with a quote from something harvey wrote.
as far im aware he is a respected member on here judging by the sticky in GD.
he says that the cold start and rough idle issues after a simtek is fitted
are down to the mapping.
seems plausable to me.
so my cars original owner had this problem
so did 3 other people ive spoken with in the last few weeks.
plus the s13 incident and others
yet AJ where all the work was carried out,are not at fault??
there is a post on the first or second page with a quote from something harvey wrote.
as far im aware he is a respected member on here judging by the sticky in GD.
he says that the cold start and rough idle issues after a simtek is fitted
are down to the mapping.
seems plausable to me.
so my cars original owner had this problem
so did 3 other people ive spoken with in the last few weeks.
plus the s13 incident and others
yet AJ where all the work was carried out,are not at fault??
As I've said many times, there is much you don't know about, like anything at all, so you can't comment on anything to do with it.
12 April 2012 | 08:43 PM
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I could understand if he didn't want to travel a long way to see you Alan, but... he's on your freakin' doorstep!!
That reminds me, I'll be coming down soon to drop my EJ22 off along with my fubar'd engine to be stripped etc in the next few weeks
may as well drop it off as it'll be cheaper and quicker than trusting a courier !
That reminds me, I'll be coming down soon to drop my EJ22 off along with my fubar'd engine to be stripped etc in the next few weeks
may as well drop it off as it'll be cheaper and quicker than trusting a courier !
12 April 2012 | 08:44 PM
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I could understand if he didn't want to travel a long way to see you Alan, but... he's on your freakin' doorstep!!
That reminds me, I'll be coming down soon to drop my EJ22 off along with my fubar'd engine to be stripped etc in the next few weeks may as well drop it off as it'll be cheaper and quicker than trusting a courier !
That reminds me, I'll be coming down soon to drop my EJ22 off along with my fubar'd engine to be stripped etc in the next few weeks
may as well drop it off as it'll be cheaper and quicker than trusting a courier !Advance friend and welcome..
12 April 2012 | 08:45 PM
#167
Your arguments are beyond belief, i think you should go back and read what it is your saying, because none of it has any basis in fact.
I'm not on anyones side in this debate, but you kind of need to realise, as many have said, if your tuning a car and then putting on the rollers to do a maximum power run, as in putting it under maximum load, then sometimes it will bring to light some serious or minor fault, that is mot the fault of the person opperating the dyno or the gas pedal, it's just life and the risk anyone takes when doing that to their car.
And as for the issue with your own car, sounds to me like all three of the owners are prize idiots, for not taking the car back to have the problem sorted, a problem which is very well documented with regard to the simtec ecu short comings.
And to quote someone elses opinion ie Harvey, however well respected, as your defence is again making yourself seem less than aware of the complexities of tuning.
You really do need to add some credance to your opinions that are based on cold hard facts, as opposed to all this he said she said that you have been spouting thus far, none of which makes any real sense, and simply saying defend yourself against this particular incident that happened 3 or more years ago to a person that has dealt with 20,000 cars in the interim period is laughable to say the least.
I'm not on anyones side in this debate, but you kind of need to realise, as many have said, if your tuning a car and then putting on the rollers to do a maximum power run, as in putting it under maximum load, then sometimes it will bring to light some serious or minor fault, that is mot the fault of the person opperating the dyno or the gas pedal, it's just life and the risk anyone takes when doing that to their car.
And as for the issue with your own car, sounds to me like all three of the owners are prize idiots, for not taking the car back to have the problem sorted, a problem which is very well documented with regard to the simtec ecu short comings.
And to quote someone elses opinion ie Harvey, however well respected, as your defence is again making yourself seem less than aware of the complexities of tuning.
You really do need to add some credance to your opinions that are based on cold hard facts, as opposed to all this he said she said that you have been spouting thus far, none of which makes any real sense, and simply saying defend yourself against this particular incident that happened 3 or more years ago to a person that has dealt with 20,000 cars in the interim period is laughable to say the least.
12 April 2012 | 08:46 PM
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Your arguments are beyond belief, i think you should go back and read what it is your saying, because none of it has any basis in fact.
I'm not on anyones side in this debate, but you kind of need to realise, as many have said, if your tuning a car and then putting on the rollers to do a maximum power run, as in putting it under maximum load, then sometimes it will bring to light some serious or minor fault, that is mot the fault of the person opperating the dyno or the gas pedal, it's just life and the risk anyone takes when doing that to their car.
And as for the issue with your own car, sounds to me like all three of the owners are prize idiots, for not taking the car back to have the problem sorted, a problem which is very well documented with regard to the simtec ecu short comings.
And to quote someone elses opinion ie Harvey, however well respected, as your defence is again making yourself seem less than aware of the complexities of tuning.
You really do need to add some credance to your opinions that are based on cold hard facts, as opposed to all this he said she said that you have been spouting thus far, none of which makes any real sense, and simply saying defend yourself against this particular incident that happened 3 or more years ago to a person that has dealt with 20,000 cars in the interim period is laughable to say the least.
I'm not on anyones side in this debate, but you kind of need to realise, as many have said, if your tuning a car and then putting on the rollers to do a maximum power run, as in putting it under maximum load, then sometimes it will bring to light some serious or minor fault, that is mot the fault of the person opperating the dyno or the gas pedal, it's just life and the risk anyone takes when doing that to their car.
And as for the issue with your own car, sounds to me like all three of the owners are prize idiots, for not taking the car back to have the problem sorted, a problem which is very well documented with regard to the simtec ecu short comings.
And to quote someone elses opinion ie Harvey, however well respected, as your defence is again making yourself seem less than aware of the complexities of tuning.
You really do need to add some credance to your opinions that are based on cold hard facts, as opposed to all this he said she said that you have been spouting thus far, none of which makes any real sense, and simply saying defend yourself against this particular incident that happened 3 or more years ago to a person that has dealt with 20,000 cars in the interim period is laughable to say the least.
12 April 2012 | 09:10 PM
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While we're waiting for him to faff about drumming up info on a Nissan, I thought you'd like to while away the time looking at something Subaru, this being a Subaru forum and all.
It's nearly finished and will be going out any day now to install in a P1.
EJ22 stroker, isn't she sweet?
It's nearly finished and will be going out any day now to install in a P1.
EJ22 stroker, isn't she sweet?
Fantastic !! Can't wait for mine to be built
12 April 2012 | 09:25 PM
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Just my 2pence worth (if that)
I can see what JME-RST is getting at.
I had a similair scenario when i bought my 1st scoob, it was a sport.
It had just had a new clutch and flywheel fitted, the receipt was dated 1 month prior to me buying it and the mileage tallied up, i think 600 miles had been covered in that time.
on the test drive it had clutch judder, being new to scoobs, didnt know it was a known fault, upon getting home THEN doing my homework LOL i phoned the garage who did the clutch job and told them it had judder, i didnt mention i was a new owner,it was never needed to be mentioned, they told me to bring the car back and they`d look at it, but, they were 400 odd miles away from me so i never did and got it sorted elsewhere.
Not quite the same scenario as this thread, but i dont see a problem with contacting a garage that did the work even if you are a new owner (if the work was something that couldnt be made worse by the previous owner, tyre wear/wheel spinning etc)
I can see what JME-RST is getting at.
I had a similair scenario when i bought my 1st scoob, it was a sport.
It had just had a new clutch and flywheel fitted, the receipt was dated 1 month prior to me buying it and the mileage tallied up, i think 600 miles had been covered in that time.
on the test drive it had clutch judder, being new to scoobs, didnt know it was a known fault, upon getting home THEN doing my homework LOL i phoned the garage who did the clutch job and told them it had judder, i didnt mention i was a new owner,it was never needed to be mentioned, they told me to bring the car back and they`d look at it, but, they were 400 odd miles away from me so i never did and got it sorted elsewhere.
Not quite the same scenario as this thread, but i dont see a problem with contacting a garage that did the work even if you are a new owner (if the work was something that couldnt be made worse by the previous owner, tyre wear/wheel spinning etc)
I thought about it and thought how do i know if the garage had advised about the tensioner but she said no. There was no way i could no who was to blame or prove it as i had not had the work done myself.
This chap like myself bought a car with a problem but unlike me he new about the problem before buying. What i should of done was go and get a new belt and tensioner fitted myself then i would have had a claim. This chap should go and get the cars issues fixed himself then if things are not right he would have a claim.
12 April 2012 | 09:31 PM
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While we're waiting for him to faff about drumming up info on a Nissan, I thought you'd like to while away the time looking at something Subaru, this being a Subaru forum and all.
It's nearly finished and will be going out any day now to install in a P1.
EJ22 stroker, isn't she sweet?
It's nearly finished and will be going out any day now to install in a P1.
EJ22 stroker, isn't she sweet?
12 April 2012 | 09:34 PM
#175
While we're waiting for him to faff about drumming up info on a Nissan, I thought you'd like to while away the time looking at something Subaru, this being a Subaru forum and all.
It's nearly finished and will be going out any day now to install in a P1.
EJ22 stroker, isn't she sweet?
It's nearly finished and will be going out any day now to install in a P1.
EJ22 stroker, isn't she sweet?
hey alan, are you sure that martyn will be able to make that run ok? with his dodgy mapping skills?
12 April 2012 | 10:06 PM
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12 April 2012 | 10:22 PM
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OK, I've had my pasta bolly now, so I'll tell you all about "The S13"
The dipstick refers to it here, amongst other places.
"what more do you need to know about the s13 and its issues? it popped on the dyno after being pushed to far by the mapper,end of."
Martyn took the trouble to speak this evening to Gary, who runs the 200SX owners club dyno days.
Gary was there in 2008, and reminded Martyn of the following;
A Scottish chap owned the car, he was around 28 or so. It was lined up with a load of other S13's. When Martyn backed the car in, our Ben passed comment to him on how rough the engine was sounding. Martyn listened to it, then suggested that it wasn't run on account of clear big end noise.
The guy laughed it off, then said "go on, it doesn't matter, I'm fitting a forged motor soon" and then, "wind up the boost a bit, I want to see what it does!"
Martyn obliged. When it left, unsurprisingly it made even more noise than when it arrived! The owner couldn't give a monkey's.
Now, to the bystander, (dipstick's mate) it may well have sounded like we'd done the motor in, but of course he wasn't privy to what actually happened.
Whatever, I'm beginning to get a bit tired of this prat, and it's time he shut up now.
The dipstick refers to it here, amongst other places.
"what more do you need to know about the s13 and its issues? it popped on the dyno after being pushed to far by the mapper,end of."
Martyn took the trouble to speak this evening to Gary, who runs the 200SX owners club dyno days.
Gary was there in 2008, and reminded Martyn of the following;
A Scottish chap owned the car, he was around 28 or so. It was lined up with a load of other S13's. When Martyn backed the car in, our Ben passed comment to him on how rough the engine was sounding. Martyn listened to it, then suggested that it wasn't run on account of clear big end noise.
The guy laughed it off, then said "go on, it doesn't matter, I'm fitting a forged motor soon" and then, "wind up the boost a bit, I want to see what it does!"
Martyn obliged. When it left, unsurprisingly it made even more noise than when it arrived! The owner couldn't give a monkey's.
Now, to the bystander, (dipstick's mate) it may well have sounded like we'd done the motor in, but of course he wasn't privy to what actually happened.
Whatever, I'm beginning to get a bit tired of this prat, and it's time he shut up now.
