**** May 2012 Esc Meet*****
#62
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Ha ha na Steve I found out the wheels are the wrong offset they're 38 not 45 so got to change them really. Prob is I can't find any I like
Camber does seem better doesn't it think I may drop the back q tad more once iv sorted the wheels out.
I wouldn't worry about cleaning your cars they can't be as dirty as Andys last month
Camber does seem better doesn't it think I may drop the back q tad more once iv sorted the wheels out.
I wouldn't worry about cleaning your cars they can't be as dirty as Andys last month
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Not really sure, it just doesn't feel as planted on the road as I'd like. Skips about a bit powering out of bumpy corners too. Might just be a few worn bushes tbh but whilst I'm sorting that it may be good to upgrade
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Now that is some expert advice and what we as a community are all about
Frayz you are like our own Haynes manual, only better!
Frayz you are like our own Haynes manual, only better!
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If I get up early enough I may dab her with a wet flannel
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How longs a bit of string mate. All depends on how you want the car to feel. Personally my fav tyres on the impreza for road are RE070s.
Many people dislike that they tramlines due to mega stiff sidewalls and they're more slippery in the wet.
You won't get a tyre that provides better steering response and feedback than those for the road.
They were fitted to stis as standard and Nissan had them specially made on 20" for the GTR.
Only available in 17" though.
I'm on 18" Vredesteins and they're alright, not amazing. Michelin Pilot sports are a great road tyre as are the exaltos.
Also a huge fan of Federal 595 RSRs I use these daily on my Clio.
Not forgetting R888s but not ideal for the road.
Many people dislike that they tramlines due to mega stiff sidewalls and they're more slippery in the wet.
You won't get a tyre that provides better steering response and feedback than those for the road.
They were fitted to stis as standard and Nissan had them specially made on 20" for the GTR.
Only available in 17" though.
I'm on 18" Vredesteins and they're alright, not amazing. Michelin Pilot sports are a great road tyre as are the exaltos.
Also a huge fan of Federal 595 RSRs I use these daily on my Clio.
Not forgetting R888s but not ideal for the road.
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I'm only just wising up to the world of car tyres. I know loads about motorcycle tyres but I've never had a car worthy of decent rubber until now. My 18's have got some sort of black round rubber on them, Kumo or something like that. Not exactly helping am I?
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As said though Nick, how long is a piece of string?
Brake pads for example:
I know people that have used Ferodo DS2500s for trackdays and sworn by them, they come as standard with all AP Racing big brake kits. Personally i think theyre pants and can get them to fade on the road without any trouble.
Thats not an "Ohh look at me, look how fast i drive and how agressive i brake!" comment.
Its a simple, what works for some people doesnt for others. Tyre choice for a road car is very much a personal thing. Track is different...
You'll find that many track bias tyres wont be happy on the road simply because 99% of drivers cannot put the heat into them on the road that they require to work efficiantly. Personally i find most road tyres horrid to drive on because they have such low rigidity in their sidewalls and so have horrid steering feel and turn in. Road tyres are quiet and comfortable, something track based tyres are not.
Brake pads for example:
I know people that have used Ferodo DS2500s for trackdays and sworn by them, they come as standard with all AP Racing big brake kits. Personally i think theyre pants and can get them to fade on the road without any trouble.
Thats not an "Ohh look at me, look how fast i drive and how agressive i brake!" comment.
Its a simple, what works for some people doesnt for others. Tyre choice for a road car is very much a personal thing. Track is different...
You'll find that many track bias tyres wont be happy on the road simply because 99% of drivers cannot put the heat into them on the road that they require to work efficiantly. Personally i find most road tyres horrid to drive on because they have such low rigidity in their sidewalls and so have horrid steering feel and turn in. Road tyres are quiet and comfortable, something track based tyres are not.
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How longs a bit of string mate. All depends on how you want the car to feel. Personally my fav tyres on the impreza for road are RE070s.
Many people dislike that they tramlines due to mega stiff sidewalls and they're more slippery in the wet.
You won't get a tyre that provides better steering response and feedback than those for the road.
They were fitted to stis as standard and Nissan had them specially made on 20" for the GTR.
Only available in 17" though.
I'm on 18" Vredesteins and they're alright, not amazing. Michelin Pilot sports are a great road tyre as are the exaltos.
Also a huge fan of Federal 595 RSRs I use these daily on my Clio.
Not forgetting R888s but not ideal for the road.
Many people dislike that they tramlines due to mega stiff sidewalls and they're more slippery in the wet.
You won't get a tyre that provides better steering response and feedback than those for the road.
They were fitted to stis as standard and Nissan had them specially made on 20" for the GTR.
Only available in 17" though.
I'm on 18" Vredesteins and they're alright, not amazing. Michelin Pilot sports are a great road tyre as are the exaltos.
Also a huge fan of Federal 595 RSRs I use these daily on my Clio.
Not forgetting R888s but not ideal for the road.
Pretty good on track too due to the hard walls and 'sticky when warm' compound, I have used them for around 12 trackdays and love them to bits, can be a bit slippy on wet roads until they warm up a bit though!
I've found Goodyear F1's to be very good on road but aren't the cheapest. A friend of mine has a Datsun R34 GTR and uses the Federal 595 RSR's for mainly track with the odd bit of road driving, he reckons they are really good all rounders for the price.
Speaking to Budgie who drives a 500bhp Hawkeye on track, he likes the 888's but has mentioned that they get too hot after a while and can 'go off' (but he can really pedal that car so probably different for lesser spec cars) I wouldn't recomend them as road tyres though.
As Frayz says, the first thing to do for improving handling is a 24mm rear anti-roll bar, solid drop-links front and rear, and a proper allignment for fast road settings, made a massive difference to both my Scoobs, after that try an anti-lift kit (caster kit) or bump steer for a classic and then a 22mm front anti-roll bar, if your still not happy, thats the time to try uprated bushes and maybe coil-overs, but remember any coil-over kit will have compromises for our bumpy British roads, they are fantastic for silky smooth trackdays but may be a bit much for B road blasts for some people and some of the cheapy items may need regular maintanence to keep them working to their best abilities (coming form an ex-bugeye owner with BC's)
PS - depending if I sober up in time, I maybe at the meet later, unless my head thinks otherwise
#84
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Great meet again today sorry for those that couldn't make it but we will be here next month.
Did anybody leave there kids stuffed toy duck here? If so it will be kept safe until it can be collected.
Did anybody leave there kids stuffed toy duck here? If so it will be kept safe until it can be collected.
#86
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Hi all. Great meet. Wished i could have stayed longer but i had to get my mates boy back for half two. As usual some lovely motors :-)
On the upside Ben is now pestering his dad for a scoob.... Maybe another member soon lol. Anyway have good evenings and top job on the location :-)
On the upside Ben is now pestering his dad for a scoob.... Maybe another member soon lol. Anyway have good evenings and top job on the location :-)
#87
Just got in after a track day in the Renault clio how did it go guys? how many cars? any pics? we will be there next month for sure in the Scooby.
Whos going to the next Southend cruise, so many questions for ya im getting withdrawals already lol
Whos going to the next Southend cruise, so many questions for ya im getting withdrawals already lol
#89
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Great meet mate no matter what the footy result that would only affect my missus lol nice one dusky another member in the esc let's hope
There was 14 in total today though I didn't take any pictures I am hoping to go Southend next meet.
Adam the duck is safe for whenever you want it mate lol are you local?
Just so you know I'm Paul.
There was 14 in total today though I didn't take any pictures I am hoping to go Southend next meet.
Adam the duck is safe for whenever you want it mate lol are you local?
Just so you know I'm Paul.