Are the Police a Special Case?
17 May 2012, 10:54 PM
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Anyone can hide in a Conifer Bush pointing a speed gun down the road, then jump out to prosecute a mother driving her child to school at 33MPH ............ let's privatise the speed gun collection team (I will do it for a coppas wage and pension!!! Hell, I'll do it for HALF!!).
17 May 2012, 10:56 PM
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17 May 2012, 10:56 PM
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You should stop watching Road Wars, Police Interceptors, Police, Camera Action and such like! 
With regards to your last point, to be fair, you wouldn't ask an ambulance driver waiting for a callout to help nurses look after patients, administer drugs, bathe patients, etc. I'm all for getting value, but there is a limit.
With regards to your last point, to be fair, you wouldn't ask an ambulance driver waiting for a callout to help nurses look after patients, administer drugs, bathe patients, etc. I'm all for getting value, but there is a limit.
My point is that I just wonder who the Police serve regarding policing the roads. The public or themselves?
You might as well have the Police issuing parking fines.
17 May 2012, 10:57 PM
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17 May 2012, 10:58 PM
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17 May 2012, 11:01 PM
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Take all their expensive toys off them, teach them to walk, sack fatties (plenty of them!).
17 May 2012, 11:04 PM
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they would receive no pressure from a board or its managment team to give a return of some sort?
really? you think thats the likely result?
17 May 2012, 11:05 PM
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Many items of uniform are similar no matter the role. Call handlers, custody officers, reception staff and even the chief constable all get issued the same brand and style of trousers. You generally can't tell who does what without looking at their shoulders to see their role. Take a look at the belt of the bloke in the van, if it has handcuffs, a baton and CS, he's an officer, if he doesn't have those, he's a civilian.
17 May 2012, 11:06 PM
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Also, i heard on the Bee Bee Sea Breakfast earlier this week that police funding has increased by 50% over the last ten years - so even with a 20% reduction (over four years) you are still on the green grass side of the fence!
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17 May 2012, 11:10 PM
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It was 37 in a 30 zone. The limit went from 50 to 30 and I was overtaking a tractor at the time and braked to 30 once past the tractor, but the Officer threw the book at me. "I'm satisfied you were speeding" he said. Tw@t!
17 May 2012, 11:12 PM
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18 May 2012, 01:28 PM
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I said the RETIRED COMMUNITY could Police their own Towns .... where do you need investors?
18 May 2012, 01:36 PM
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They would take a Photo and call in the Armed Police - no different to PC Plod now actually (they cannot pursue an armed mugger, it's a bit dangerous for them)
18 May 2012, 01:53 PM
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who is going to provide the equipment, from speed, guns to transport and fund feulling.
who's going to provide you with training? so your"evidance" stands up to scrutiny.
whos going to provide you with a means to going through all the health and saftey regulations, and other red tape.
whos going to pay your wages?
you mentioned privitisation pete, does that not imply you want a private company to run things, -thus you need someone to pay for it all?
18 May 2012, 01:58 PM
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I spend time with the Met as an observer in the response teams. I truly would not want that job. These guys are **** upon by management, the public, everyone. In no way is it a cushy job. They deal with truly awful situations. Dealing with societies scum deserves to be well paid.
18 May 2012, 02:07 PM
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I spend time with the Met as an observer in the response teams. I truly would not want that job. These guys are **** upon by management, the public, everyone. In no way is it a cushy job. They deal with truly awful situations. Dealing with societies scum deserves to be well paid.
18 May 2012, 02:10 PM
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Emergency response, local beats, CID make up the vast majority, what expensive toys do we have..?
I can walk and like to walk, but it not practical for the area we cover numbers on the shifts and the jobs we deal with.
Sack fatties - I agree, which is where this new fitness test comes into play. But included into this is if you can not pass a fitness test in 2 years you are classed as unable to fulfil your role as an officer, so they can make you redundant – this will included officers who have been seriously injured in the line of duty. Hence the likes of David Rathband would have been made redundant. Someone who has damaged their leg in the line of duty and can no longer run fast enough will be made redundant – no more back office jobs for them.
18 May 2012, 06:10 PM
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I also speed sometimes but if I get caught I will accept it, that's life.
18 May 2012, 06:44 PM
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straight road, no traffic, optimum driving conditions, breaking the law temporarily to pass a slower vehicle - does not validate an offence worthy of punishment - maybe a roadside discussion.
obviously the law says differently. but it doesnt need to imo.
18 May 2012, 06:59 PM
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I'm questioning the basis for such laws and the resources we devote to enforcing them bearing in mind the these resources could be used for other ends.
18 May 2012, 07:03 PM
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As I have pointed out, during my (recent) time, it was always civilians who were tasked with catching motorists, leaving is response officers to respkn.d to emergencies and proceed investigations and convictions.
18 May 2012, 07:22 PM
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Are the Police a Special Case? Yes 
Two weeks ago, a really, really nasty accident on the road next to the farm where I do the accounts. There is a golf course on the farm. A lorry went speeding up the road, lost control, veered over to the other side of the road. Was going so fast, the lorry drove over the top of a people carrier, carrying a 14 month old baby, her 18 year old Mother and her Grandparents. The lorry went through a hedge, over 2 embankments and came to a stop 250 metres into the golf course. The Police had to cover the devastation to the people carrier, which had the crushed dead bodies of all but the Grandmother. All that was left of the people carrier was the boot. The rest was flat.
Golfers were throwing up and some were crying. The Police though some were visibly upset, did their jobs admirably. I could not have done that to save my life. So yes, they are a special case
Two weeks ago, a really, really nasty accident on the road next to the farm where I do the accounts. There is a golf course on the farm. A lorry went speeding up the road, lost control, veered over to the other side of the road. Was going so fast, the lorry drove over the top of a people carrier, carrying a 14 month old baby, her 18 year old Mother and her Grandparents. The lorry went through a hedge, over 2 embankments and came to a stop 250 metres into the golf course. The Police had to cover the devastation to the people carrier, which had the crushed dead bodies of all but the Grandmother. All that was left of the people carrier was the boot. The rest was flat.
Golfers were throwing up and some were crying. The Police though some were visibly upset, did their jobs admirably. I could not have done that to save my life. So yes, they are a special case
18 May 2012, 07:27 PM
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Are the Police a Special Case? Yes
Two weeks ago, a really, really nasty accident on the road next to the farm where I do the accounts. There is a golf course on the farm. A lorry went speeding up the road, lost control, veered over to the other side of the road. Was going so fast, the lorry drove over the top of a people carrier, carrying a 14 month old baby, her 18 year old Mother and her Grandparents. The lorry went through a hedge, over 2 embankments and came to a stop 250 metres into the golf course. The Police had to cover the devastation to the people carrier, which had the crushed dead bodies of all but the Grandmother. All that was left of the people carrier was the boot. The rest was flat.
Golfers were throwing up and some were crying. The Police though some were visibly upset, did their jobs admirably. I could not have done that to save my life. So yes, they are a special case
Two weeks ago, a really, really nasty accident on the road next to the farm where I do the accounts. There is a golf course on the farm. A lorry went speeding up the road, lost control, veered over to the other side of the road. Was going so fast, the lorry drove over the top of a people carrier, carrying a 14 month old baby, her 18 year old Mother and her Grandparents. The lorry went through a hedge, over 2 embankments and came to a stop 250 metres into the golf course. The Police had to cover the devastation to the people carrier, which had the crushed dead bodies of all but the Grandmother. All that was left of the people carrier was the boot. The rest was flat.
Golfers were throwing up and some were crying. The Police though some were visibly upset, did their jobs admirably. I could not have done that to save my life. So yes, they are a special case
18 May 2012, 07:49 PM
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no no, I'm sure pslewis would have been more than happy to go out and sort that out, close the road, take measurements, sift the wreckage to identify the family, then go round to the ladys husbands house and tell him that his wife and child was dead, then go and tell the same to the other children of the parents in the car. Simple work, no bother, not really worth a shelf stacking wage to be honest.
if only we were all like him? what a fckn mess this country would be in. thank god he just posts on here as a pest and doesnt actually have any influence at any political level
18 May 2012, 08:22 PM
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PSLEWIS doesn't believe half the stuff he posts himself I think. He does it to get a reaction.
The current policies are at odds with his beloved labour party yet he now claims to support them,
The guy is full of $hit
The current policies are at odds with his beloved labour party yet he now claims to support them,
The guy is full of $hit
18 May 2012, 09:21 PM
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Come on - shut the claptrap - what is the job of a Bobby?
It's to do what you say they do as if it was an 'extra' ..... it's like giving your Car Mechanic a heap of praise because he has to do the unpleasant task of working in oily places!!
A Coppa knows what the job entails .... don't expect any medals for simply doing that, that's what we all pay a vast amount for - so they can be skilled in breaking bad news and carry out their duties.
Next stop is to say what a wonderful thing a Teacher does when they actually do what we pay them to - Teach!!!
Jeeez ... do I ask for praise and medals for keeping you all safe in your beds? No I don't - IT'S MY JOB!! And I get on with it without moaning and bleeting on - have I had my Pension raided and have I had to pay more for less? YES I HAVE - for at least 5 years now!!
So there!
It's to do what you say they do as if it was an 'extra' ..... it's like giving your Car Mechanic a heap of praise because he has to do the unpleasant task of working in oily places!!
A Coppa knows what the job entails .... don't expect any medals for simply doing that, that's what we all pay a vast amount for - so they can be skilled in breaking bad news and carry out their duties.
Next stop is to say what a wonderful thing a Teacher does when they actually do what we pay them to - Teach!!!
Jeeez ... do I ask for praise and medals for keeping you all safe in your beds? No I don't - IT'S MY JOB!! And I get on with it without moaning and bleeting on - have I had my Pension raided and have I had to pay more for less? YES I HAVE - for at least 5 years now!!
So there!