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Old 25 May 2012 | 01:26 PM
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Perhaps you and pslewis can start your own forum?

A lot of owners do sell up and just can't get away from the car, you will be back quicker than you thought...
You never know. Just made an offer on a house which is half the distance to work. Half the distance half the petrol so once again the scooby makes sense lol
Old 25 May 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Or so I keep telling the missus
Old 25 May 2012 | 01:30 PM
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John d is right ,drove mine on country road other day could not of gone faster no matter what bhp it had .But it handled superb
Old 25 May 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Aztec Performance Ltd
Says the boost dealer to the boost junkie
Oh yes lol

I dont need to become a postman or something boring just yet

I will pick up an application form when the posts on here have a more "how do I make my car slower, its too quick" slant to them

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Old 25 May 2012 | 04:21 PM
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It is a ego thing I think think syvecss is the next step but just waiting for prices to come down or second hand one coming my way?? Nudge nudge Simon
Old 25 May 2012 | 04:55 PM
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I have just reached the 400 club my self in a newage. And have already found my self looking at stroker kits and more power
Old 25 May 2012 | 05:12 PM
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TBH, in a road car there is no where you can use 400+bhp, on the twisties you will suffer the fate of many a driver with lots of power, and thats to be shown up by something with far less power that handles well, then you wonder where you have gone wrong and think its not enough power, every step drops reliability until the one day something goes pop...
Then it really gets expensive
Old 25 May 2012 | 05:22 PM
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I have a 360 bhp bug which does feel quick but i don't get the buzz I get when I drive my 330bhp classic hence I think it has to go so I can spend more on the classic
Old 25 May 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Secondhand newage syvecs available for 950+vat + mapping.

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Old 25 May 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by craigyp
It is a ego thing I think think syvecss is the next step but just waiting for prices to come down or second hand one coming my way?? Nudge nudge Simon
You'd be surprised how capable the standard ECU is.

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And even more surprised how capable this is

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when i went from 275 to 380 it felt bit faster but alot smoother but what i did notice is my brakes feel crap havin to brake alot harder as your hitting same corner u do every day at twice the speed lol. Need bigger brakes only got them 356 mm 8 pots lol.Although 380 in my type r feels perfect but could do with spool bit quicker im at full boost 3750 on a sc40 billet .
Craig what happen to the type r?
Old 25 May 2012 | 11:10 PM
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And even more surprised how capable this is

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So what's the difference between this and the syvecs???
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Never had a type r mate
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Different Craig I think
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oops my bad he a craigo lol
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
And even more surprised how capable this is

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Yes but this an aftermarket ECU costing a lot of money and still playing catch up with the Syvecs.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Yes but this an aftermarket ECU costing a lot of money and still playing catch up with the Syvecs.
Where do you get "A lot of money" from ?

It's far from playing catch up on the VFM stakes

For instance take the Newage ecu, even with the new Carberry Rom file developed in the USA that the likes of Andrew Carr are using, the stock ecu is limited compared to a good aftermarket ecu.

So let's look at the aftermarket options mentioned. The Syvecs is £1249 + vat for the supply of the ecu only (Assuming you buy a new one), an Alcatek ecu with 2 stage ALS, flat shift capabilty, launch control, nitrous upgrade and a programming kit £899 + vat.

So you could either have an Alcatek installed and mapped for the same price as you could buy the Syvecs ecu for, or add the Toucan Touchscreen to the package and expand it's functions even further and still have change to put aside for the mapping.
Old 26 May 2012 | 01:28 PM
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are they the same???? as im on the look out for a uprated ecu for my 05 sti???
im a bit in the dark with the ecus
help would be appricated
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Originally Posted by craigyp
are they the same???? as im on the look out for a uprated ecu for my 05 sti???
im a bit in the dark with the ecus
help would be appricated
Craig no,Syvecs and AlcaTek are different ECU.

I would say Syvecs offering everything all in one,without the paying extra for ALS,LC,programming kit etc.

Mapping for Syvecs from mappers here is from £200(plus dyno time) up to £400(again plus dyno time),tweak map depends on mapper again,but usually from £100(again plus dyno time) up to £300

Main plus for me is Syvecs datalogging,which is good if you are doing track/drag plus you can send this file to your mapper which will tell you if something is wrong etc.

Plus Syvecs forum which is very helpful with Ryan G or Pat and other mappers there

We are running Syvecs almost 6 months and we are happy with our purchase

About the AlcaTek never tried and can't comment pro and cons

Hope this help


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Originally Posted by jura11
Craig no,Syvecs and AlcaTek are different ECU.

I would say Syvecs offering everything all in one,without the paying extra for ALS,LC,programming kit etc.
Fact is whether you pay extra for them or not the Alcatek still works out £350 cheaper.

Originally Posted by jura11

Mapping for Syvecs from mappers here is from £200(plus dyno time) up to £400(again plus dyno time),tweak map depends on mapper again,but usually from £100(again plus dyno time) up to £300
I think you'll find that most of those mappers charge the same for doing Alcatek ecus too.
Originally Posted by jura11

Main plus for me is Syvecs datalogging,which is good if you are doing track/drag plus you can send this file to your mapper which will tell you if something is wrong etc.

Agreed ! Datalogging can be useful, however to take the real advantage of it you'll need a load of additional sensors, oil pressure, oil temp, fuel pressure, Closed loop wideband, egt etc.


Originally Posted by jura11
Plus Syvecs forum which is very helpful with Ryan G or Pat and other mappers there

We are running Syvecs almost 6 months and we are happy with our purchase
The Alcatek website and forum are under way as we speak and you'll get the same kind of technical support/backup from there from the dealers and Andy L himself.
I've been mapping Alcatek ecus for nearly 6 years now and can't fault them, I also run 2 of them on my own cars


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All I'm after is a decent ecu for road use only not track,drag etc etc
Just want a ecu that will make full potential of my car.
I don't really know what the differnce is between alcatek and syvecs and even the os mapping that Andy Carr does on the oem ecu??
All I know is they all have switchable maps, anti lag, launch, etc
It all seems the same but i prob couldn't be more wrong
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Originally Posted by craigyp
Martyn
All I'm after is a decent ecu for road use only not track,drag etc etc
Just want a ecu that will make full potential of my car.
I don't really know what the differnce is between alcatek and syvecs and even the os mapping that Andy Carr does on the oem ecu??
All I know is they all have switchable maps, anti lag, launch, etc
It all seems the same but i prob couldn't be more wrong
Stick with your OE ecu chap, more than capable of doing everything you want/need.
Re-read Einstien RA post and click his links, lots of info there.
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If it has to be an aftermarket ECU you go for then I would lean towards Syvecs. Yes it may well work out slightly dearer than an Alcatek but Syvecs also comes with a proven track record which in my book is worth the extra £££.
Be nice to see a few more posts from different mappers with their opinions on Alcatek vs Syvecs. Pretty sure I know which one most would opt for.


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Cheers mate to be fair I'm confused with these 3 options never mind throwing a forth in :-)
Out of intrest why did u go for that?
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Syvecs is obviously very good but with the new options that go with the alcatek and toucan touch screen it is a very good contender that's for sure!
I have seen a toucan first hand and was very very impressed with it and how quick responding the signals are along with the layout of the screen.
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Is the toucan touch a part of the alcatek?
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Originally Posted by craigyp
Is the toucan touch a part of the alcatek?

No it's an add on which works with syvecs or alcatek,made by TimH from JTINNOVATIONS,you can have all the readings you want coming through it and set warnings etc and use it as a cal switch for changing maps.
Very good piece of kit!!
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Originally Posted by craigyp
Martyn
All I'm after is a decent ecu for road use only not track,drag etc etc
Just want a ecu that will make full potential of my car.
I don't really know what the differnce is between alcatek and syvecs and even the os mapping that Andy Carr does on the oem ecu??
All I know is they all have switchable maps, anti lag, launch, etc
It all seems the same but i prob couldn't be more wrong
For road use only it's a no brainer, Alcatek all the way
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I'm running a syvecs with 2000cc injectors and its my daily driver, idles prefectly and potters about better than a standard car so for me a syvecs is a no brainer road use



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