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Old 05 June 2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Black-Hawk
Factory paint may look nice, but if you look close you'll see the Orange peel affect in the paint/lacquer, this dulls the gloss and blurs reflections, removing the peel deepens the gloss and sharpens reflections, so just an enhancement realy.
I'm a lazy b******d so I have a man coming tomorrow weather permiting to clay and detail my black 630i convertable hope it comes out as good as yours I'll post some before and after if you would like to see
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Originally Posted by SRSport
If you cut through the paint and saw a cross section of it you would see the slightly uneven, wavy lacquer. When you wet sand it you are taking off as little lacquer as possible while taking off as much of the uneven layer as possible.


The top line shows the showroom finish while the blue line shows the aim of wet sanding and how light can reflect much more consistently, giving it the mirror finish you see.


Ta for that
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Originally Posted by johnnybon
I'm a lazy b******d so I have a man coming tomorrow weather permiting to clay and detail my black 630i convertable hope it comes out as good as yours I'll post some before and after if you would like to see
Clay only removes most surface contaminants not paint defects or Orange peel, I'm sure it'll come up a treat though as the paint on those is very very hard and doesn't scratch easily.
Old 05 June 2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Thats pretty sick, the picture of the Renault looks like a direct picture, and not a reflection!!!!

Top work, I must get the pics up of the areas I need to attend to, then you can tell me if they are workable or not

Rob
As mentioned, sorry to post here, but seem to know your stuff:

Top corner of door join (admitably the car needs a polish)

Looks like a laquer only scratch to me.

Hard to see, ignore the fabric remains from the mitten LOL



This is a better pic, looks bad at this angle, but its actual that bad:



Zee car from a distance LOL


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Old 05 June 2012, 09:00 PM
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^^ laquer scratches to me, flat & polish would deal with that
Old 05 June 2012, 09:06 PM
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Looks unbelievable mate I wouldn't be brave enough to wet sand my scoob
Old 05 June 2012, 09:14 PM
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Rob, they look like they'd come out, but hard to say from a pic, can you feel them with your finger nail? do you have access to a orbital/rotary polisher? have you put any wax over it? i'm sure someone local to you could sort it for you.

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Originally Posted by martin850
Looks unbelievable mate I wouldn't be brave enough to wet sand my scoob
Cheers mate, imo only dark colours benifit from this procedure anyway, so no worries
Old 05 June 2012, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Black-Hawk
Cheers mate, imo only dark colours benifit from this procedure anyway, so no worries
Very true Jarv,lighter colours don't show the effort at all really,black is without doubt the best like yours shows.
It act's like a mirror!
I think I need to think darker colours for mine
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
Very true Jarv,lighter colours don't show the effort at all really,black is without doubt the best like yours shows.
It act's like a mirror!
I think I need to think darker colours for mine
I showed one of the salesmen in work this pic today,



He wouldnt believe it was a reflection in my car, despite the label reading backwards, he said id photoshoped it, ffs!
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Tell him to come see it mate,it's a great pic fella and really shows your efforts
Old 05 June 2012, 09:48 PM
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Its better than that with the 3 stage Blackfire kit on it, that was after 3m ultrafine se
Old 05 June 2012, 09:53 PM
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I only use 3M for compounding,they are extremely good products and I use the 3 your using there as well and will be on mine
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Originally Posted by Black-Hawk
Rob, they look like they'd come out, but hard to say from a pic, can you feel them with your finger nail? do you have access to a orbital/rotary polisher? have you put any wax over it? i'm sure someone local to you could sort it for you.
Its not deep if that's what you mean, it looks like a kind of plastic scrape if the makes sense, if you rub over it you wouldn't feel it. I'll get some professional advice locally in its flesh, thank you. No rotary polisher and no wax on it yet.

Rob
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
I only use 3M for compounding,they are extremely good products and I use the 3 your using there as well and will be on mine
Autosmart's new Evo3 is very good too, wouldnt say it was better than fastcut but its about 1/2 the cost
Old 05 June 2012, 10:36 PM
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Very good job there Jarv fair play! I take it you don't have any hobbies then ( other than cleaning your car!)

Ty's will be next now you watch, when he gets his P1 :-p

Rob
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that's a very good job by hand

have you tried "3m Finesse-it" as the final stage - if you haven't and you can get some then you should give it a go - it's not cheap (about £30 a bottle) but it's superb

I mopped my last two cars - i'm not a pro by any means and these are the best photos I have - i'm going to mop the scooby when I get a chance and hopefully it'll be a lot easier than the bm's - the paint on bm's is ridiculously hard to cut into without a very abrasive polish and even then it's a PITA with a DA



Old 05 June 2012, 11:04 PM
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Yeah the hardest paint ive come across has been on a bmw 335i, a real pain to prep.
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I like the bm touring .......
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Nice work Jarvis! Very rewarding but time consuming! I've done my van and a couple of bits on the scoob that had been painted and were peely.

Please put a bit of a health warning on this thread though - if only to let people know you know what you're doing! Looking forward to the thread on DW.

Going to have to start calling you the welsh KDS!
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
I like the bm touring .......
thank you - she was mint when i'd finished with her and sold her on for a tidy profit as it was given to me

it was a genuine sport touring 2.5l with full mtech kit and black leather interior and nicely specced - the guy who owned it before me had bought it from new for his nanny and she had done 28,000 in 10 years - they then bought a range rover for the nanny and this sat for nearly 2 years under a tree without a cover - when I asked him about it he said I could have it if I could get it running - she only needed a new battery and fired up and idled perfectly first time

to give you an idea of how bad she was covered completely in about 2mm of green moss, dust and pollen from the tree she was parked under and there was a bramble bush that had grown up through the wheel arch liner and into the engine bay and then back out of the bonnet vents!

I spent around £800 on getting her up to scratch mechanically and cosmetically together with a few performance mods and when I sold her she ran perfectly, everything worked and there wasn't a ding, or scratch on the car

I sent my mate these pictures and he couldn't believe it was the same car

I was sad to see her go but i'd put 50,000 miles on her in 2 years for work, she was getting a little long in the tooth and someone offered me silly money as it was exactly what he'd been after





sorry for the thread hijack but I loved this car!!
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Originally Posted by Ti22
Nice work Jarvis! Very rewarding but time consuming! I've done my van and a couple of bits on the scoob that had been painted and were peely.

Please put a bit of a health warning on this thread though - if only to let people know you know what you're doing! Looking forward to the thread on DW.

Going to have to start calling you the welsh KDS!
Cheers James, don't know what you mean, I hav'nt got a clue what im doing there is a thread on DW BTW, what's KDS?
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How many passes did you need on each panel with the differing grades of polish, also how much pressure did you apply, was it literaly just enough for the foam to start to deform?
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I apply quite alot of the products and start with the machine on its lowest speed and increase the speed as the product reduces, not to much presure i used the next product when the going got sticky.
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As Promist for those of you who would like to see some of my BMW















what do you think?
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nice, can't see it to well on my phone, but what I can see looks good
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Not as clean as black hawk but not bad for all done by hand, black is a lovely colour to polish for reflection shots.




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Is that what you had before the oil burner Dave?
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Originally Posted by Black-Hawk
Is that what you had before the oil burner Dave?

Yeah Fella, one of the best cars I`ve ever had apart from the scooby of course
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Originally Posted by Tiptoptaf
Yeah Fella, one of the best cars I`ve ever had apart from the scooby of course
Of course


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