Jimbob

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That is the HIGHWAY CODE NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT!!

2 second rule when following a car, lol should be 3-4 seconds.

Another superb contribution from your "official front" lmfao.



So Highway code or European Type Approval?? Hmmmmmmmmm.

addi monster

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Thread hijacked by turdy burns yet again

Galifrey

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The highway code uses MUST and MUST NOT when it relates to a legal requirement as well as the code.

It uses Should and Should not when it is not a legal requirement.

[Law RVLR reg 27] is the law reference.

Good to know you understand the highway code


http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/27/made

Is the actual LAW hope this helps you understand it clearly.

Jimbob

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But the point that gets me is it is summarised and not the actual document, and people use it as such.

Anyhoo, my point was NOT that fogs are legally allowed to be used in traffic or during normal driving conditions.

My point was that real front fog lamps produce a bar of light which is intentionally created to minimised glare, and that a real fog light should not produce glare. As its glare that reduces visibility in fog/snow etc.

Galifrey

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Whilst your information is correct about E-Marking etc, you will notice the lamp has the designation SAE04 which is the original American type approval for a foglamp.

chet123

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Have you ever asked yourself what was the reason for driving with the fogs on in the first place?

- to look cool
- its foggy (highly unlikely here)
- always drive with fogs on
- accidently left them on from the night before.
- wanting to attract uneccessary attention
- its dark you can't see the road ahead with just your headlights.

I hate drivers who drive with fogs on for no apparent reason, it just attracts unwanted attention.

BTW its against the law to drive with fogs on if it isnt foggy.

TonyBurns

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So, if you dont want to use the highway code, feel free, it "summarises" extracts from the law to make it easier for people to understand, of course nothing in there is official so dont take any notice of the road signs, speed limits etc, its an aid to help you understand the law, if not then just use this, this is the law, note paragraph 2, b, i, it gets better note the to be used in place of part

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...chedule/6/made

You are sinking faster than the Titanic here

Tony

TonyBurns

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Really? so note who posted first and who highlighted who first, and no doubt you use your fogs in broad daylight too as it seems you cant read very well

Jimbob

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I forgot everything that is your opinion is therefore fact. Just like Homer Simpson. Also what about new cars that illuminate one fog lamp when cornering, that must be illegal and dazzling too. Also what purpose does it fulfill? And again I'm not arguing if it's illegal or not to use fog's when it's not reduced visibility, you seem to gloss over this everytime. I refer to the point that an EU type approved fog light will not dazzle due to it's design. Your lamp is not an EU approved fog but an additional head lamp it may be approved in the US for that but not in the UK.

TonyBurns

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Its EU approved (note the E on there) its a fog lamp (note the B on there), all good fun and you really are getting desperate

Tony

PS, your list of approvals gives details of those lights that are used to illuminate when cornering, think you should read it again

Jimbob

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They are NOT marked as B category as the B should be above the E number, as with everything else, you clearly cannot read.

Also how am I getting desperate, you get annoyed by people with fogs on. I`d quite happily follow you around all day with them on, and who would be annoyed?

The crux is you yourself cannot provide evidence to show that the type approved fogs (with cut off) can dazzle, you make this claim again and again yet it is unsubstantiated, and all you can provide in evidence is a "fog" lamp which is not EU approved to be used as a fog lamp.

The fact that companies are now using fogs to illuminate where a car is turning just goes to prove my original comments in which I stated that I used mine in the dark on country lanes (lots around here in Wales) to provide extra lighting to areas that my usual lights do not. Which is low down and wider than the beam of my dipped, approx 1-2ft off the floor.

If you do genuinely get dazzled by such low angle lights so close to the floor I suggest you either refrain from driving pending and eye exam for a retina based problem, or use yellow tinted driving glasses as they are designed to reduce glare from cars lights for people who need to protect their eyes due to over sensitivity.

Lastly I will say that my fogs on every car I`ve had with fogs, had a means to adjust them (part of their type approval) so their cut off wasn`t set too high and they pointed in the right direction, your picture again showed no way of adjusting them, which again shows that they are not fogs. Also I think that all lights fitted to a vehicle should be tested as part of the MOT, up to and including reverse lamps, as if they are fitted then they should work and the beam should be set correctly. I spent time ensuring mine were set up correctly, it`s a shame others can't do the same.

addi monster

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so now i cant read very well
TONY BURNS YOU ARE THE BIGGEST

on scooby net

TonyBurns

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Atleast I have one of those and im not a complete **** like you

Tony

TonyBurns

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Have you read what you are putting down? more divel
The E or e is for european approval, you dont need then to have the b abve it, you need a number with the E or e to denote its country of origin within the EU, have a look on your glass, does it have an E or e on there?
Next you will be saying my tyres are illegal as they have a US marking on there aswell
what you cannot except is that my car is totally legal, its also brand new, it complies to EU standards because its built in the EU by a european country, its parts are all EU compliant and reach or exceed the required standars, my fogs also turn off when you switch the ignition off and do not re activate when you turn the engine on unless you physically turn the side lights on then switch them back on, hey ive even got a picture of them working, isnt that great! probably the last time i'll ever use my fronts, and if you still seem to refuse to accept that lights that shine directly infront of a car cannot dazzle, you must really be ignorant of the fact that the beam (not self levelling either) will not go up and down with undulations on the road
Keep on making a fool of yourself, these lights have been like this for the last 20+ years, the markings are there and you are in total denial and nowhere does it state that the letter has to be above the E marking.
I'm enjoying seeing you squirm here Jim its making you look rather silly

Tony