I'm no expert but i think a front mount could slow the spool because of the length of pipes needed.

 

This thread has a bad vibe goin on, wheres the love people yes we all know racing round streets is a big no no and im sure the OP probably knows that aswell, lets just put it down to a bad judgement call and talk about the more interesting bits eh?

 

Iv,e read that before as well but then some people say that a mapper would compensate for it during the mapping session and its hardly noticeable?

 

I think depending on age, mileage, history of the car uping the power could lead to engine failure or the gear box dropping itself all over the floor. Some classic have been run up to 400 bhp on standard internals and some have blown to bits at standard level. The chance is yours.

If you wish to risk it then I would suggest as chopperman suggests, a good remap by a well known and respected mapper such as bob rawle, Andy forest, Simon aka jolly green monster to name a few but bob gets my vote. Before doing so it may be and idea to go for an after market ecu such as a simtec or similar, although that would be more than having the standard ecu mapped but it would eliminate the maf which is not a bad idea on these cars.

Although you would see more power and earlier spool it may be worth seeing a little more power Nd go for a sc36 or if not an older vf34/35 albeit the sc36 a billet version would see more power and quicker spool the old vf range still make for a nice road car. You may need a fuel pressure regulator to get a bit more out of the standard 380 injectors which I think are fitted to your car if not a set of 440 or 550's for future proofing. A cheeky decat downpipe wouldn't go a miss too or a full system if funds allow, have that lot all mapped up should make for a nice little package

I would of thought the clutch should be ok to this level but with the extra grunt it nay start to slip so that may have to be addressed. Hopefully if its been well looked after in the past and you don't gun it off the lights at every givien chance, drive it with some mechanical sympathy and service it correctly then you "should" be ok

Good luck

 

At last , we are back on track (excuse the pun)

 

The problem with this forum is there are some not so well off people buying scoobs and asking for help with problems and then we have some Toryboy daddys boys rich kids who look down and make snobbish remarks.although I gotta admit there are more Barryboys buying scoobs than evos.
To the OP atleast your honest. We all put our foot down sometimes no way did we buy our cars to drive like grannies!
Here they come.......

 

Stevie what a great sensible post, thanks very much for your input. I should have explained from the beginning my car has been mapped and has 440.s fitted along with a td05 and an apexi and commander, 3 port and later spec map sensor and running 1.3 bar. Im just looking for some advice on a turbo that would be quicker spooling but make similar power to the td05. The turbo that keeps coming up seems to be the vf34.

 

Ported headers and matched up-pipe can work wonders.

After checking graphs we found my 20G made boost earlier than my VF28 after fitting GT spec manifold and up-pipe.

 

That had better not be aimed at me as

a) I hate the Tories more than even New Labour

and

b) every penny I have I have made myself

therefore if that is aimed at me you are a prize misinformed ****.

If not no worries and peace be with you

 

My serious take on it..............A TD05 16G isnt a laggy turbo! Lag is only really noticeable if you are not in the boost threshold. Now if you are saying that the RS turbo beat you whilst going up through the gears then you will need more than a quicker spooling turbo, you will need a turbo that will give you alot more power than you are getting now.

On the other hand, if you were side by side and both went for it and he pulled away and you are blaming lag, then maybe you should of knocked it down a cog..

I still prefer my first post in this thread tho....

 

 

................oh and, has no one come across a thread on a Ford forum yet Titled "I handed a scooby driver his ***"

 

OP, don't forget the liddle SC36 Billet!

Allegedly spools not far off a TD04 - I'm guessing it's gonna feel like a VF28/29(?) - and should make c.<360 on V-Power. I think one made 381 on a 2.1, or it might have been on a 2.0 with VP+meth. Can't recall the spec, etc.

Best of 'all' worlds... 'Cause you'll then need the top end for when you hit the straights! LOL

 

Ported headers are definitely on the cards as iv,e heard many people say they are worthwhile, harveys being the ones that everyone mentions.

 

joz would a wrx,s internals be ok running an sc36? I suppose the gearbox would start grumbling as well?

 

I never thought about checking the ford forums lol.

 

Don't, it may hit a nerve and cause you to spend more money that you would want too

 

Hi there

At least ported headers with Harvey Up pipe I would recommend,this can bring spool up to nice RPM and few extra bhp

GT spec headers will be for you needs overkill and you can loose spool up.

Your turbo should be OK(good) for 330-350bhp(seen few of them make 350bhp like on classic or new age),think better injectors will be needed

Better TMIC or FMIC will be good addition at this level too

But for best advice speak to your mapper(Andy F),which would help you decide on the next steps



Jura

 

Thanks jura, i was thinking front mount already and induction but didnt think about injectors. Andy said the duty was 90% so there was room there plus as far as i know its running standard fuel pressure.

 

What injectors you have now 440's?

If you have 440's they should be OK for 340-350bhp(with aftermarket FPR),on OE fuel pressure they should be OK for 320bhp or maybe more(some people running on OE fuel pressure 440's at 330-340bhp)


Jura

 

ok........furry muff

 

oh *****, well techically your right but I didn't mean to imply that

 

jura would the fuel pressure be raised from standard to flow more fuel and hence more power? is that how it works?

 

hey there yab,

i cant help you with you'RE (did i get that right?) mechanical dilemas, i know **** all about it!

what i can say though is as a new owner of a Type UK running about 320BHP i have to say im a little dissappointed with the take up on these cars. i used to own a standard focus ST and im pretty certain it would have blown my current car away from a standing start, prob caught it eventually, but the ST was smooth as you like right from the off. only 3 years apart in age so its not like the technology is worlds apart.

After reading this thread tho, im wondering if i shoud go back!!

 

hi bud an welcome along, dont let this thread put you off by the way there are some sound guys on here who are very helpful.I know what you mean about the focus st,s they are quite quick off the mark. Thats one of the reasons i started this thread was to get ideas of a quicker spooling turbo for mine. a hybrid td04 from andy forrest or a vf34 are the choices i think i have.

 

Hi there

Not sure,how much OE FPR can be pushed.

If you are thinking get aftermarket FPR,I would sent them to the Mark@Lateral Performance to re-flowing them.


Andy F TD04 Hybrid will be good,but will run out the power at 320-330bhp,must admit great spooling turbo

VF34 great turbo,have before and really nice spooling turbo too

But still think your current turbo is capable to make 340-350bhp and spool you can gain as I said with ported headers with Harvey Up-pipe,please beware cheap ebay Up pipes those can kill your spool up(friend run this and he hit full boost on the TD04 at 4k RPM)



Jura

 

jura thanks for your replies as always. wasnt expecting an answer at this time of the morning lol. im up watching the ufc. ok so stick with current turbo and improve the breathing with a fmic,induction and ported headers then another map? i apologise as i never mentioned but i have an adjustable fpr fitted.

 

Hi there

With ported headers plus Up pipe,FMIC,induction kit and your current turbo(TD05H-16G) you can expect more like you have right now...

But for sure,best will be speaking with your mapper





Jura

 

ok thanks m8, if i can make 340 that would be nice and improve spool up at the same time. Would i still need to upgrade injectors or can the 440,s flow enough for 340? im guessing so if andy said they are on 90%?

 

Hi there

Some guys running 440's at 330-340bhp without the problem.Not sure at which pressure yours FPR is set


Jura