Which sti should I get?
25 June 2012, 09:25 PM
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Oh and yes the jdm cars rev higher this may be down to the cam profile but I think the UK car can rev higher and can be adjusted when mapped but I'm not 100% on that. Sure someone will correct me
25 June 2012, 09:28 PM
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25 June 2012, 09:31 PM
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Ha brilliant gas that made me chuckle. No I didn't buy my impreza for that solely but I did buy it as my everyday car and that sometimes means motorway driving among other things not always track use, to that the UK 6 speed in my opinion is better suited to our roads, the jdm box has a shorter gearing through out and personally with having a jdm sti a jdm box in a 480bhp classic, then a UK 6 speed in a p1 and mu current UK hatch sti I personally find the UK 6 speed better for day to day use................point made ;-)
Now the positive v neg the twin scroll / single scroll is a matter of personal choice.....the added electric mirrors etc who cares its not the be all and end all making the jdm's better, oh and the stronger engine in fairness is a myth to a degree as there are plenty of people running 450bhp on standard UK internals so that is that knocked out the window.
I'm sure there is more the jdm has over the UK counter part but nothing that in my opinion makes it leaps and bounds ahead of a UK car once you take out the turbo set up which you have three people on this thread saying they to didn't like it over the UK set up.
Again no offence to yourself or any other jdm fans but I think its horses for courses.
Now the positive v neg the twin scroll / single scroll is a matter of personal choice.....the added electric mirrors etc who cares its not the be all and end all making the jdm's better, oh and the stronger engine in fairness is a myth to a degree as there are plenty of people running 450bhp on standard UK internals so that is that knocked out the window.
I'm sure there is more the jdm has over the UK counter part but nothing that in my opinion makes it leaps and bounds ahead of a UK car once you take out the turbo set up which you have three people on this thread saying they to didn't like it over the UK set up.
Again no offence to yourself or any other jdm fans but I think its horses for courses.
For the twisties I prefer the shorter gearing personally,
25 June 2012, 10:39 PM
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Don't know how to multi quote but to respond to a couple of comments made.
Not wanting under seal due to weight is just bizarre given the uk climate. Im sure that poster will change his view when his car starts to look like a patchwork quilt underneath. How much weight does it save and how does that effect the power to weight ratio?
My uk car has electric mirrors, unless the poster meant electric folding, then i agree. Who cares?
And my cars 6 speed gearing does 70mph at 2500 rpm and 80mph at 2900 rpm.
25 June 2012, 11:05 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting the UK car down and am an avid fan of the single scroll cars as my earlier post suggests but it's fair to say that the JDM cars are slightly superior engine wise over a UK car.
Remember I've had a 05 JDM through my hands, and as someone else pointed out earlier they do feel very linear and even slightly dull in some respects.
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25 June 2012, 11:11 PM
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Yea fair comment but if you were building an engine and had the choice of a standard UK crank and rods or the JDM forged nitride coated cross drilled crank which one would you go for ?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting the UK car down and am an avid fan of the single scroll cars as my earlier post suggests but it's fair to say that the JDM cars are slightly superior engine wise over a UK car.
Remember I've had a 05 JDM through my hands, and as someone else pointed out earlier they do feel very linear and even slightly dull in some respects.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting the UK car down and am an avid fan of the single scroll cars as my earlier post suggests but it's fair to say that the JDM cars are slightly superior engine wise over a UK car.
Remember I've had a 05 JDM through my hands, and as someone else pointed out earlier they do feel very linear and even slightly dull in some respects.
25 June 2012, 11:26 PM
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As many have pointed out all down to what suits. I went jdm and think the power delivery is linear and doesn't feel as quick as a single scroll car, but look at the speedo and you soon realise that it is. If I was buying a uk car I would get one with ppp then fit a straight through centre pipe and panel filter and get a custom map done. But don't forget a jdm car can have dual maps and per gear boost control on an ecutek megarom map, the uk car cannot. Although later drive by wire cars can have racerom with similar features. Auto intercooler spray is also a welcome addition.
25 June 2012, 11:38 PM
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As many have pointed out all down to what suits. I went jdm and think the power delivery is linear and doesn't feel as quick as a single scroll car, but look at the speedo and you soon realise that it is. If I was buying a uk car I would get one with ppp then fit a straight through centre pipe and panel filter and get a custom map done. But don't forget a jdm car can have dual maps and per gear boost control on an ecutek megarom map, the uk car cannot. Although later drive by wire cars can have racerom with similar features. Auto intercooler spray is also a welcome addition.
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26 June 2012, 08:55 AM
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don't the jdm cars speedo read in kmh and are limited to 112mph? They don't have a built in rear fog light either so you have to have one of those tacky bolt on affairs hanging off the rear bumper. Plus there's always the hidden past because of lack of history a documentation and you have to make sure its mapped for uk fuel.
Im not slagging of jdm cars but there are things to consider.
26 June 2012, 10:35 AM
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Mine hasn't and no I won't be changing my mind on the underseal, Who says it isn't on imports anyway as it is it's just a lot thinner, It's thinner on the car for a reason and its got nothing to do with the UK climate, Each to there own and all that , Oh and BTW its a good few kg's 
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26 June 2012, 10:45 AM
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Is it just me who thinks a Scooby without the burble (even a quiet standard exhaust burble) has no soul? And is just another performance car?
For me, the kick from the turbo and the burble seperate it from other cars. Lose the burble and the kick, may as well buy an Audi
For me, the kick from the turbo and the burble seperate it from other cars. Lose the burble and the kick, may as well buy an Audi
26 June 2012, 01:32 PM
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I really miss not having one of those
don't the jdm cars speedo read in kmh and are limited to 112mph? They don't have a built in rear fog light either so you have to have one of those tacky bolt on affairs hanging off the rear bumper. Plus there's always the hidden past because of lack of history a documentation and you have to make sure its mapped for uk fuel.
Im not slagging of jdm cars but there are things to consider.
don't the jdm cars speedo read in kmh and are limited to 112mph? They don't have a built in rear fog light either so you have to have one of those tacky bolt on affairs hanging off the rear bumper. Plus there's always the hidden past because of lack of history a documentation and you have to make sure its mapped for uk fuel.
Im not slagging of jdm cars but there are things to consider.
cant handle above 350 bhp reliably and have hg and ringland failure issues which the 2.0 dont.
26 June 2012, 01:33 PM
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Is it just me who thinks a Scooby without the burble (even a quiet standard exhaust burble) has no soul? And is just another performance car?
For me, the kick from the turbo and the burble seperate it from other cars. Lose the burble and the kick, may as well buy an Audi
For me, the kick from the turbo and the burble seperate it from other cars. Lose the burble and the kick, may as well buy an Audi
26 June 2012, 02:43 PM
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26 June 2012, 02:53 PM
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its a well known fact that the 2.5 is the weaker engine and has head gasket issues and ringland failures both of which are well documented.
if you run much more than 350 bhp its a ticking time bomb,the 2.0 will take 100bhp or even more without issues.
A simple search will show you all you need to know about the 2.5
so are you claiming the 2.5 engine is a better engine than the 2.0 and doesnt have any of the issues i mentioned above?
if you run much more than 350 bhp its a ticking time bomb,the 2.0 will take 100bhp or even more without issues.
A simple search will show you all you need to know about the 2.5
so are you claiming the 2.5 engine is a better engine than the 2.0 and doesnt have any of the issues i mentioned above?
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26 June 2012, 03:25 PM
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its a well known fact that the 2.5 is the weaker engine and has head gasket issues and ringland failures both of which are well documented.
if you run much more than 350 bhp its a ticking time bomb,the 2.0 will take 100bhp or even more without issues.
A simple search will show you all you need to know about the 2.5
so are you claiming the 2.5 engine is a better engine than the 2.0 and doesn't have any of the issues i mentioned above?
if you run much more than 350 bhp its a ticking time bomb,the 2.0 will take 100bhp or even more without issues.
A simple search will show you all you need to know about the 2.5
so are you claiming the 2.5 engine is a better engine than the 2.0 and doesn't have any of the issues i mentioned above?
But yes 2.5 are prone to hg and ringland issues if you turn the boost up. Plenty of uk and jdm 2.0L cars have had bottom end issues. Horses for courses mate.
26 June 2012, 03:30 PM
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But i think the op is only in the budget for the older 2.0L car, besides your comment was aimed at me for some reason. My 2.5 is just fine thanks and will take plenty of power thanks to Mr Finch working his magic
But yes 2.5 are prone to hg and ringland issues if you turn the boost up. Plenty of uk and jdm 2.0L cars have had bottom end issues. Horses for courses mate.
But yes 2.5 are prone to hg and ringland issues if you turn the boost up. Plenty of uk and jdm 2.0L cars have had bottom end issues. Horses for courses mate.
i love the rb320, but was just stating a fact about the 2.5 engine in standard form.
if rebuilt they are great, but out the box are very weak.
im not sure the 2.0 have bottom end issues though.
the rb320 would be on top of my uk list of cars if the engine had been rebuilt correctly.
back on the jdm v uk debate though.
i actually miss the rear wiper my jdm had, i found it very useful in the winter and also the clock sweep some jdm cars do on start up i really like.
as said before though if its your everyday car and your going to use it throughout the winter undersealing is a must.
jdm car has more toys but no burble so both cars have plus and minus points really,
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26 June 2012, 04:54 PM
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They DO have underseal just not a lot of it, Mine is a weekend car as I have use of 2 other vehicles too, It's not left out in the rain all week either
Not sure where that statement has come from as all JDM cars have a token gesture of underseal, Probablly a bit like the Sti forged piston rumour, lol.
Anyway I think the OP has probablly had enough of this now so I'll leave it with you guys
Not sure where that statement has come from as all JDM cars have a token gesture of underseal, Probablly a bit like the Sti forged piston rumour, lol.
Anyway I think the OP has probablly had enough of this now so I'll leave it with you guys
26 June 2012, 07:31 PM
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They DO have underseal just not a lot of it, Mine is a weekend car as I have use of 2 other vehicles too, It's not left out in the rain all week either
Not sure where that statement has come from as all JDM cars have a token gesture of underseal, Probablly a bit like the Sti forged piston rumour, lol.
Anyway I think the OP has probablly had enough of this now so I'll leave it with you guys
Not sure where that statement has come from as all JDM cars have a token gesture of underseal, Probablly a bit like the Sti forged piston rumour, lol.
Anyway I think the OP has probablly had enough of this now so I'll leave it with you guys
26 June 2012, 08:09 PM
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26 June 2012, 11:05 PM
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Is it just me who thinks a Scooby without the burble (even a quiet standard exhaust burble) has no soul? And is just another performance car?
For me, the kick from the turbo and the burble seperate it from other cars. Lose the burble and the kick, may as well buy an Audi
For me, the kick from the turbo and the burble seperate it from other cars. Lose the burble and the kick, may as well buy an Audi
26 June 2012, 11:57 PM
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There will always be a uk or jdm debate and everyone has their own feelings on the subject. Best bet is to view and drive both and see what suits you. Both are very good cars and there are pros and cons to both of them.
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