Geezer

You don't have to count the calories, people generally eat the same stuff, so if you are staying at the same weight or putting it on, just eat less volume. It really isn't hard.

Portion control, you don't even have to weigh, either put visibly less on the plate or don't eat what's all on the plate.

Fad diets just do not work. Apart from being bad for you, invariably people put at least as much as they lost and quite often more when they stop.

Just eat a little less and do a little more!

All the people I know who are really fat are the ones who have been on and off stupid diets, unsurprisingly.

Geezer

Luan Pra bang

Eat less do more ? how does that account for adjustments to metabolism, Lean BF% changes and things like Wilsons syndrome. I have met people who ate 1 meal a day and were still fat, they just wasted away their muscle to the point of starvation and still had too much fat on them. Some of the advice on here from jjones is just the sound of alot of stupid talking loudly. If you know **** all then perhaps you should shut up.

tony de wonderful

Maybe they were lying or didn't follow the diet long enough.

Unless you are some Yogi mystic you aren't going to be able to live on zero calories.

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

1 meal a day is bad.

A body will store any calories it gets because it doesn't know when they are next coming.

Eating a balanced diet, regular meals etc is vital. It's why you should always have breakfast. Hell seems you can even have choclate cake a lose weight

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...se-weight.html

5t.

TelBoy

Blimey, is the Cambrige fad Diet still kicking about?

It's so straightforward.

Eat less food. Smaller portions. Drink less booze.

Exercise more.

Repeat for 40 years.



Next.

Luan Pra bang

I would bet that every one on this board could survive on one meal a day.

Tidgy

sounds seriously dangerous to me, totaly screwing around with your diet and dropping that fast

i managed to loose 1.5 stone in 5 days,,,,, but i did nealry end up in hospital with food poisening.

Proper balanced diet combined with excerise for the win.

TelBoy

Loose/tight

Lose/find


Come on guys.

Tidgy

from what i've just read the risk of heart attack and stroke is increased

no thanks

tony de wonderful

That's with a ketonic diet - or is thought to be.

Eating mostly fat sounds vile. Common sense says it's a bad idea.

Leslie

My doctor said to eat less food, and he was right!

Les

Geezer

I suggest unless you understand some very basic principles about how the body works, you should shut the **** up

99.99999999% of people who are overweight are overweight because they take in more calories than they burn. It really is that simple. If only everything in life was that simple!

There is only a very small handful of conditions that truly prevent weight loss, and even then , ye canna change the laws pf physics, if you stopped eating, you would lose weight. There are no recorded cases that I am aware of people taking nourishment directly from the air......

I am not advocating that people don't eat, obviously.

So, there you go, eat less, do more, it really is that simple for most people.

Should I guess you're fat and in denial? I know plenty of people like that........

Geezer

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Page one chap. I've given up trying.

5t.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Bloke I know through the local Footy Supporters' trust lost 5 stone on Cambridge diet in 5 months.

Said he felt OK and good on it. No ill effects.

TelBoy

But, alcazar, you can't eat an Atkins diet for life. If he hasn't already put the weight back on, he will do, unless he's fundamentally changed his eating habits. And if he's managed to do that by way of the Atkins crash diet course, then ok, fair play to him, but he'd be highly, highly unusual.

Littleted

i think its principles 101 that eating less and moving ya *** is the goal, but unfortuenly and most probably 80% of the UK carry a bit too much luggage LOL

apart from my wife whos a sport billy, none of my mates or people i know are an ideal weight thoses that even play footy. i personally think its just the ay sociaty is nowadays

We are all guilty of it.

The cambridge is just an EASY wat to lose it no food counting no excercise just sit on ya as drink a shake and it falls off, i agree cant be healthy but in some ways it probably is better for u if your 30 stone,

Girl at work was told by her doctor lose it if you want kids as shes having issues, having a baby, so she was told to use this diet by her doctor.

Love the banter lets all calm down, for all you on the iphone dload and install my fitness pal and for a laugh just tell me how much you consume in Cals a day, its amazing how much we nail just scoffin and working.

TelBoy

Littleted, please understand that you lose weight. Loose is when your belt isn't tight round your trousers. You lose weight. Lose, lose, lose.


Sorry 5t, just have to keep trying

Littleted

lol sorry

tony de wonderful

That's the thing about commercial diet plans, if they work they make themselves go out of business. The business plan is to have the customer fail then come back, rinse and repeat. The trick is to make them come back and not give up, it was never the diet that made them fail but their weakness etc etc.

Luan Pra bang

Your ability to demonstrate complete ignorance is astounding, losing weight on its own is a pointless endeavour, losing fat would be what people actually aspire to, starting a cut last week I lost 3.5 kilos in a few days a small percentage of which was fat only now while sticking to a keto diet and a calorie deficit will I be burning fat, by understanding how the human body works I can hopefully trim to a reasonable BF% without losing too much muscle. The simple equation of eat less do more may lose weight initially but it will not get huge changes in appearance that most people want. A strict adherence to something like Atkins until fat percentage is low enough followed by careful management of diet after will.
What you eat and when you eat it can have huge implications for how effective your diet is, and to be honest I am not sure I can be arsed to try to explain to you when your ability to understand is minimal.

As for me being fat depends on your definition my BF percentage is probably around 18 I would imagine this should drop to 15 in two months and after that depending on how much muscle I lose I will either keep going or start to eat more and get heavier. Either way I am in denial about **** all and am very happy with how my 5 days a week in the gym for the last few years are paying off.

Luan Pra bang

I love this app, so far to day I have eaten, 1500 and have 750 left to play with, Only problem is that is does not seem to think weight training burns calories.

Geezer

I understand perfectly. There are many factors that govern the rate at which you can lose weight, but at it's core, you take in more than you burn, put it on. Less, you lose weight. If you deny that, then the discussion is pointless, you don't understand simple physics.

People who eat too much are fat (whatever that definition) is. Eat less, do more, decrease the ratio between intake an energy used, reduce weight. The do more bit is key, as less food on it's own won't necessarily burn up your fat, which as you correctly point out is what most people want.

The simple fact remains though, I'm afraid.

I'm very pleased for you that you feel the need to tell us all that go to the gym 5 days a week........

So, you were fat before?

Geezer

tony de wonderful

I think Luan's point is that depending upon what and how much you eat and genetics, you might be losing muscle rather than fat. You could drop a stone of muscle and stay the same in terms of fat mass...your bodyfat % would actually go up.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

I would have to agree with Tony. Luan's point is about a specific
technique used to gain the 'ripped' look. This is usually only practiced by bodybuilders who want to lose as little muscle as possible whilst stripping the fat.

jef

iTrader: (13)

said it before and no dobt countless times ahead.
a "diet plan" implies there will be in the future a time when you come "off" the diet.

for long term sustainable results a lifestyle habit change is whats needed

yes a protein/fat only diet will result in fast weight loss, as your body rids itself of the water previosly retained. hence its hyped up success.
also portion reduction diets without consideration to macro nutrient % often lead to failurefor a rogh idea of your genetic presipostion look to family members and have the ability to understand your genetic make up.

the goal should be loosing fat, not blindly loosing weight. avoid scales, they are easily misleading
ultimately it takes time to accumulate fat storage to a noticable degree- and im afraid it takes time to loose it - in general

jef

iTrader: (13)

but muscle tissue is calorifically expense for the body to keep, so ther more muscle you have the more kcals are spent maintaining it - and therefore not stored as bodyfat.
muscle is the metabolic factory for burning kcals, so the less you have the lower the amount of kcals are expended keeping it. hence why portion reduction diets dont work long term unless macro nutrient %s are considered.

LEO-RS

Think the best way to get rid of the flab is to let the dog loose off its lead and chase after it.

TelBoy

I think i'm elevating lose/loose to top 5 on this evidence What were all these people doing at school? Just waiting for the home-time bell to go by the look of it. Shockingly bad.

And Geezer still doesn't understand it's/its

Using an "app" to control calorie intake is amusing, when we have several "apps" that can do that for you without the need for any electricity whatsoever. Including mirrors, scales and that most elusive "app" of all, our own hunger mechanism. If more people could override that and stop being so bloody greedy, this country wouldn't be disappearing under a blubbery layer of obesity.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

True but muscle will only be maintained if it's being used. Our gym mantra was 'use it or lose it'. Most people find it difficult to maintain a dietary/exercise regime for more than six months so everything becomes a moot point in the grand scheme of things.

Geezer

I understand it perfectly Tel, I just seem unable to stop doing it! Seeing as one of my pet hates is also the loose/lose thing, and generally incorrect usage of word, it's a constant source of shame that I continue to do it

Please do not stop reminding me

Whilst we're on this, why do people use jealous when they should use envious?.........

Geezer